Red Sox (Bennett) vs Rockies (Feltner): 6/22/26, 8:40pm

[notin]

6 hours ago, cp176 said:

I made a mistake there I meant to say Arias to short and Mayer to second but I could live with it either way.  As for Mayer, I think that he is extremely talented and will someday be much more than worth the wait.  

Welcome to the minority that doesn’t think Mayer snd his 350 career at bats isn’t already an AAAA player…

[notin]

3 hours ago, FredLynn said:

I gave you the facts. You didn't like them. Too bad.

For the purposes of review since your memory seems to be short: 

To determine if higher baseball draft picks tend to be better, consider the following points:

• Historical data shows that higher draft picks often have better career statistics.
• Top picks usually come from elite college programs or high school talent, indicating higher skill levels.
• Teams invest significant resources in scouting and analysis, favoring top prospects.
• Many successful MLB players were high draft picks, but not all top picks succeed.
• Injuries and development paths can impact a player's career, regardless of draft position.
• Overall, while higher picks tend to have better outcomes, exceptions exist.

You do realize that’s comparing rounds, not pick 5 to pick 10…

[Old Red]

15 minutes ago, notin said:

Welcome to the minority that doesn’t think Mayer snd his 350 career at bats isn’t already an AAAA player…

Imagine the gaul of some fans judging a player on how he’s actually playing.🤔

[FredLynn]

20 minutes ago, notin said:

You do realize that’s comparing rounds, not pick 5 to pick 10…

Would you rather have the #1 pick or the #30 pick? The 5 or the 25? I take the higher pick in an every circumstance. You would too.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

48 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I think Brez gets another year.

On good decisions vs bad, it's hard to grade non moves, and I think we both agree he gets a big "F" for not making another big bat addition (or two.)

On his actual moves made, it doesn't look as bad to me, as it might to you and others, but yes, "too few" good ones.

My subjective view on the major moves (note almost all are still TBD for the most part) Not counting draft and IFA:

In approximate order of importance/cost...

10 biggest

B Crochet trade

C+ Devers dump

A- Suarez signing

B- Bregman signing (and not re-signing)

A- Contreras trade

A Chapman signing & extension

B+ Gray trade

B- Crochet extension

D+ Giolito signing

F Buehler signing

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10 Moderate choices made:

B- Verdugo trade

B+ O'Neil signing

D+/TBD Harrison-Durbin 

D+/TBD Priester trade 

C Anthony extension

A- Rafaela extension

A- Romy waiver claim

 

B- Slaten trade

F Hendriks signing

B Bennett for Perales trade

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Please feel free to call me out for missing some equally or more important choices made that should be listed.

Some might be moderate or the next tier of 10: Bello extension, KC extension, Justin Wilson, Narvaez, IKF, Oviedo, Moran, Coulombe, Hicks & Sandler, May & Matz, Danny Jansen, L Garcia & L Sims,  Bernardino, Booser (get & trade)Watson, Criswell, NLowe, Gasper, Toro, Paxton, T Guerrero, I Campbell

Again, "TBD" should probably be the current grades, but so far...

Looking at the 2026 results and the unbalanced roster, the final grade is worse than the sum of all these parts combined.

 

 

Good post. Always evaluating and updating. 

The extensions are worthy of more debate. If Anthony gets a C for his brutal season and injury, then Crochet can't be any higher. We can only hope both fully recover and resume reaching their potential. Not doing that (or regressing) is also why Campbell and Bello are barely passing and why Rafaela is raising his grade.

[FredLynn]

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[illinoisredsox]

1 hour ago, FredLynn said:

Would you rather have the #1 pick or the #30 pick? The 5 or the 25? I take the higher pick in an every circumstance. You would too.

I’d rather have the #30 pick since that means you are the defending World Series champions.

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, notin said:

Not really, since Breslow and his team have drafted twice.  That we have seen a couple players already in MLB from those drafts is pretty good…

Yes, with lower picks.

[moonslav59]

52 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

I’d rather have the #30 pick since that means you are the defending World Series champions.

The Royals pick 30, this year.

BAL picked 30th in 2025.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Good post. Always evaluating and updating. 

The extensions are worthy of more debate. If Anthony gets a C for his brutal season and injury, then Crochet can't be any higher. We can only hope both fully recover and resume reaching their potential. Not doing that (or regressing) is also why Campbell and Bello are barely passing and why Rafaela is raising his grade.

Good points.

Most should be TBD, and I was doing some projections on some.

Yes, so far the Crochet and Anthony extensions should be "F".

[illinoisredsox]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

The Royals pick 30, this year.

BAL picked 30th in 2025.

True, but those are Compensatory and/or Competitive Balance picks.  The Royals still have the #6 pick as well and the Orioles kept their regular position last year.  The Dodgers got a 10 slot penalty for going over one of the upper tier luxury  tax levels.

The MLB draft rules are complicated but Fred is viewing them as 1-30 based straight up on record, hence my simplistic response to him.

[Hugh2]

Obviously no one wants a high draft pick, but with the way this season is going I'm going to have to really start paying attention to the 2027 Draft class. 

[mvp 78]

11 hours ago, notin said:

Welcome to the minority that doesn’t think Mayer snd his 350 career at bats isn’t already an AAAA player…

My only concern is how to best allow him to learn how to hit against LHP and offspeed stuff where he's struggled. He's greatly overmatched and being platooned in MLB. Is there a benefit to having him go to AAA, IDK? 

[mvp 78]

11 hours ago, notin said:

You do realize that’s comparing rounds, not pick 5 to pick 10…

I'm sorry, but we're discussing FACTS here. 

[mvp 78]

11 hours ago, FredLynn said:

Would you rather have the #1 pick or the #30 pick? The 5 or the 25? I take the higher pick in an every circumstance. You would too.

All that I've said is that the bonus pool money has more value than where the actual pick is because the individual picks are huge gambles. 

[mvp 78]

13 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Obviously no one wants a high draft pick, but with the way this season is going I'm going to have to really start paying attention to the 2027 Draft class. 

I've tried to in the past, but it's just too much for me. I'm good with just learning about all the guys already in our system rather than the top 50-100 guys in college/high school. 

[notin]

7 hours ago, illinoisredsox said:

True, but those are Compensatory and/or Competitive Balance picks.  The Royals still have the #6 pick as well and the Orioles kept their regular position last year.  The Dodgers got a 10 slot penalty for going over one of the upper tier luxury  tax levels.

The MLB draft rules are complicated but Fred is viewing them as 1-30 based straight up on record, hence my simplistic response to him.

And that the talent level csndidates ranked 5 and 10 is obvious and apparent.

The reality is thr Sox will do more towards rebuilding their franchise at the trade deadline this year than they will with a draft pick not likely to see MLB before 2030…

[Hugh2]

25 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I've tried to in the past, but it's just too much for me. I'm good with just learning about all the guys already in our system rather than the top 50-100 guys in college/high school. 

I usually pay closer attention in the month leading up to the draft.  

There is so much more fluidity between what a kid will be between 17/18 and 20/21 than there is when they're 10 years older.  Someone who may be a top 10 pick in next years draft might be unheard of right now.  

Next year, because the pick is likely going to be high, I'm probably going to pay attention a little bit sooner. 

[mvp 78]

4 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I usually pay closer attention in the month leading up to the draft.  

There is so much more fluidity between what a kid will be between 17/18 and 20/21 than there is when they're 10 years older.  Someone who may be a top 10 pick in next years draft might be unheard of right now.  

Next year, because the pick is likely going to be high, I'm probably going to pay attention a little bit sooner. 

I'll rely on you to keep us in the know then. 

[Hugh2]

6 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I'll rely on you to keep us in the know then. 

I promise to be on point next summer. lol

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

10 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Good points.

Most should be TBD, and I was doing some projections on some.

Yes, so far the Crochet and Anthony extensions should be "F".

We all want good projections for our sanity. But pitcher injuries alter athletic careers like no others.

Look at Giolito: multiple injuries, finally has a good year, then is too sore to pitch in the playoffs. Teams were scared to sign him in free agency in the winter, until one finally took a chance on him... and now he's having elbow issues again.

But that doesn't excuse all our top young position players who keep missing time on the field as core members of the next late Red Sox team. Casas, Anthony, and now Mayer is hurt again?

We need to scout more bodies like Ceddanne Rafaela's, put together with pipe cleaners and rubber bands. He's always diving and bouncing off of something... and always in the line-up.

[FredLynn]

13 hours ago, illinoisredsox said:

I’d rather have the #30 pick since that means you are the defending World Series champions.

Well there is that.............

[illinoisredsox]

3 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

I usually pay closer attention in the month leading up to the draft.  

There is so much more fluidity between what a kid will be between 17/18 and 20/21 than there is when they're 10 years older.  Someone who may be a top 10 pick in next years draft might be unheard of right now.  

Next year, because the pick is likely going to be high, I'm probably going to pay attention a little bit sooner. 

That Schlitter kid for the Yankees is a prime example.  Undrafted out of high school, 7th round pick out of Northeastern and look at him now.