Red Sox Ace Garrett Crochet Heads To Injured List With Shoulder Inflammation

[UtahSox]

3 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Did anyone "prefer" Harrison back in March?

Almost nobody liked the Gray trade, especially when it seemed he'd be the #2. The Suarez add solved that concern, but then the talk was that we spent too much on pitching and neglected the big bats need.

In hindsight, and so far this year, Marte, Bregman, Alonso and Bichette have not proven to be difference makers.

Schwarber has.

Ranger Suarez, Gray & Contreras have.

BLowe and others barely mentioned have.

Murakami, someone widely poo-poo'd here, has.

It's fair game to criticize but we should keep in mind that we all had some pretty rotten ideas/suggestions over the winter.

No I’m not saying I thought Harrison was a difference maker…… but had we signed Bregman (which I was ADAMANT about) Harrison by proxy would still be here And sadly probably less effective in RS uniform.

I commented what I did because Breslow diagnosed exactly what this team needed in October then overcomplicated it. 
 

I believe Duran/ Anthony maybe even Rafaela would be better with Bregman helping guide them. 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Duran Is The Man said:

so yeah, what is our net return on the Devers trade now? Durbin and Monostereo? LOL.

Indirectly Durbin & Monasterio (DHam was part, too) plus Ziehl (Hicks & Sandlin) and Jose Bello.

For Priester, we have Holobetz, YRod (doing real well this year) and the draft pick (Phillips.)

[moonslav59]

41 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

No I’m not saying I thought Harrison was a difference maker…… but had we signed Bregman (which I was ADAMANT about) Harrison by proxy would still be here And sadly probably less effective in RS uniform.

I commented what I did because Breslow diagnosed exactly what this team needed in October then overcomplicated it. 

I believe Duran/ Anthony maybe even Rafaela would be better with Bregman helping guide them. 

More likely, we have Bregman and not Suarez- yuck.

We'd not sign IKF (great) and still make the Durbin trade.

I seriously doubt Bregman helps our slumping and injured players do better and stay healthy... maybe a little bit.

I'm glad we have R Suarez over Bregman.

I'm glad we have Willson over Alonso (as I know JH would not spend money had he signed Alonso or Bregman.)

I'm glad we traded for Gray and not KMarte.

We still suck.

[moonslav59]

On 5/2/2026 at 6:08 AM, mvp 78 said:

They thought his bat would pop in Fenway with a pull air profile. Now it’s a pull ground profile. 

If he just duplicated his 2025 OPS, nobody would be complaining about him.

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

so yeah, what is our net return on the Devers trade now? Durbin and Monostereo? LOL.

Wait!  You expected return?  I was shocked we could move his contract at all, let alone get Tibbs and Harrison.

[UtahSox]

54 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

More likely, we have Bregman and not Suarez- yuck.

We'd not sign IKF (great) and still make the Durbin trade.

I seriously doubt Bregman helps our slumping and injured players do better and stay healthy... maybe a little bit.

I'm glad we have R Suarez over Bregman.

I'm glad we have Willson over Alonso (as I know JH would not spend money had he signed Alonso or Bregman.)

I'm glad we traded for Gray and not KMarte.

We still suck.

Marte is the best 2nd baseman in baseball he will bounce back. Our offense is absolute dog sh**, I’d much rather have Bregman+ Marte+ Contreras. 

SP- Crochet, Gray, Harrison, Tolle, Early

1. R Anthony/ J Duran

2. A Bregman

3. K Marte

4. W Contreras

5. W Abreu

6. T Story

7. J Duran/ M Yoshida

8. C Narvaez

9. C Rafaela

 

 

[moonslav59]

42 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Wait!  You expected return?  I was shocked we could move his contract at all, let alone get Tibbs and Harrison.

Do people really want the Devers deal undone?

[Duran Is The Man]

56 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Do people really want the Devers deal undone?

lots of them.

 

 

 

 

but they're all Giants fans.

[moonslav59]

8 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

Marte is the best 2nd baseman in baseball he will bounce back. Our offense is absolute dog sh**, I’d much rather have Bregman+ Marte+ Contreras. 

Probably nobody advocated for a KMarte trade than I did, but I'm not so sure he's going to be real good going forward.

If we got those 3, we'd likely have no Gray & Suarez.

[moonslav59]

20 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

lots of them.

 

 

 

 

but they're all Giants fans.

LOL.

[mvp 78]

13 hours ago, UtahSox said:

Harrison by proxy would still be here And sadly probably less effective in RS uniform.

This is a bad take because many pitchers have improved in this system. We don't know what Harrison would look like after an offseason and ST here. Not many orgs have developed young pitchers like Early and Tolle. To say pitchers can't get better here is silly. 

[mvp 78]

12 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

If he just duplicated his 2025 OPS, nobody would be complaining about him.

Why isn't he duplicating it? Swing changes? Bad luck? 

He's hitting MORE grounders and less flyballs. He's striking out more. He is just lost up there. Put it on a tee and he can't hit it. If you compare '25 and '26, this is the difference:

 

[mvp 78]

11 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Do people really want the Devers deal undone?

May OPS 971

[mvp 78]

12 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

Wait!  You expected return?  I was shocked we could move his contract at all, let alone get Tibbs and Harrison.

Wow, Tibbs AND Harrison. What'd that turn into? 

[moonslav59]

41 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Why isn't he duplicating it? Swing changes? Bad luck? 

I have no idea.

Maybe 2025 was a fluke.

Maybe teams figured out how to get him out, and he has not or never will be able to adjust.

[moonslav59]

43 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

May OPS 971

He's going to be a good hitter for a few more years. I don't see him as the next Pablito.

His May numbers are nice, but it's just 65 PAs.

Would you undo the trade, now?

 

[moonslav59]

43 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Wow, Tibbs AND Harrison. What'd that turn into? 

Those are separate deals (May & Durbin,) but yes, ultimately we might be looking at Monasterio, Seigler and Jose Bello to reclaim any value.

[mvp 78]

2 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

He's going to be a good hitter for a few more years. I don't see him as the next Pablito.

His May numbers are nice, but it's just 65 PAs.

Would you undo the trade, now?

They should have kept him AND Bregman. Everyone on here complained that he was a diva because "he wore headphones." Give me a break. That was the worst thing the Sox came up with after kicking him out the door. 

Devers was right. Breslow should have done his job. He should have found a 1b OR should have communicated in ST that he needed to start working out at 1b just in case. 

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They should have kept him AND Bregman. Everyone on here complained that he was a diva because "he wore headphones." Give me a break. That was the worst thing the Sox came up with after kicking him out the door. 

Devers was right. Breslow should have done his job. He should have found a 1b OR should have communicated in ST that he needed to start working out at 1b just in case. 

A fine example of being wrong.

[JoeBrady]

14 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Probably nobody advocated for a KMarte trade than I did, but I'm not so sure he's going to be real good going forward.

If we got those 3, we'd likely have no Gray & Suarez.

Guys like Marte seldom just disappear.  But once a guy starts edging towards the age of 33, you always have to ask whether or not the decline is permanent, or just part of regular BB variance.  Before the Angels signed Pujols, his OPS declined from 1.101 to 1.011 to .906.  I asked Angels fans the same question.  If .906 is his true number, and he is in decline, would you still want the contract.  Mostly the answer implied that Pujols wouldn't get old.

[JoeBrady]

15 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Probably nobody advocated for a KMarte trade than I did, but I'm not so sure he's going to be real good going forward.

If we got those 3, we'd likely have no Gray & Suarez.

Not only no Gray & Contreras, but a chance of no Tolle & Early, unless the Snakes were in a very generous mood.  Our rotation would be Crochet, Harrison, Bello, Moonslav and Joey.

[JoeBrady]

4 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

May OPS 971

I'm one of the few that would trade for Devers, if SF ate some money.

That said, his 'real' May numbers are 3 HRs in 58 ABs with a 19/6 K/W.  I still think he'll revert back to his career numbers, but 3 Hrs and a 19/6 are pretty weak.

[JoeBrady]

4 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Breslow should have done his job. He should have found a 1b

1-I know the timing wasn't the same, but for what Seattle paid for Naylor, we should've added him.  He cost nothing.

2-That said, Devers isn't worth his salary.  I would re-acquire him, but not for the $250M+ he is owed.

[UtahSox]

5 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

This is a bad take because many pitchers have improved in this system. We don't know what Harrison would look like after an offseason and ST here. Not many orgs have developed young pitchers like Early and Tolle. To say pitchers can't get better here is silly. 

Don’t disagree……… Definitely the Brewers do a great job at developing young arms as well. To your point though, when you see how Bennett has improved, and take into account how a whole offseason with Red Sox pitching program, how would that look for Harrison? Probably pretty good. 
 

I Just said that from a worst case scenario, that I’d rather have Harrison and Bregman/ +other big bat than Suarez/Durbin. And you can imagine how good we would be with those 5 young lefties (including Crochet)

[drewski6]

17 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

Wait!  You expected return?  I was shocked we could move his contract at all, let alone get Tibbs and Harrison.

Dustin May and Durbin*

ANd yes, I never wanted to trade Devers nad never saw him as a bad contract

[drewski6]

16 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Do people really want the Devers deal undone?

F YES

[drewski6]

Bello and Durbin for Devers right now, $0 eaten.  Easy yes.

[drewski6]

throw in breslow

[mvp 78]

24 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I'm one of the few that would trade for Devers, if SF ate some money.

That said, his 'real' May numbers are 3 HRs in 58 ABs with a 19/6 K/W.  I still think he'll revert back to his career numbers, but 3 Hrs and a 19/6 are pretty weak.

I'm throwing out his SF numbers at home because the park is awful for him. 

[mvp 78]

16 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

Don’t disagree……… Definitely the Brewers do a great job at developing young arms as well. To your point though, when you see how Bennett has improved, and take into account how a whole offseason with Red Sox pitching program, how would that look for Harrison? Probably pretty good. 
 

I Just said that from a worst case scenario, that I’d rather have Harrison and Bregman/ +other big bat than Suarez/Durbin. And you can imagine how good we would be with those 5 young lefties (including Crochet)

I'd rather have Harrison, Bregman and do the Contreras trade again (Dobbins, Aita, Fajardo). Bregman and Contreras would be a solid clubhouse.