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Posted
1 minute ago, Old Red said:

That’s why I keep asking why do the Red Sox have to settle. 11 different 2B 2 years ago, and countless guys at SS when Story was out, not to mention the parade through 1B.

They just keep these dumb revolving doors because they refuse to sign the right guys in FA.

SS - Dansby Swanson 2023 (would have solved the MIF situation for a long time)

DH - Kyle Schwarber 2022 (everyone knows this)

SP - Kevin Gausman 2022 (instead of a lot of garbage they put through the rotation 22-25)

These are three guys we were all calling for on here. 

Posted
31 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They just keep these dumb revolving doors because they refuse to sign the right guys in FA.

SS - Dansby Swanson 2023 (would have solved the MIF situation for a long time)

DH - Kyle Schwarber 2022 (everyone knows this)

SP - Kevin Gausman 2022 (instead of a lot of garbage they put through the rotation 22-25)

These are three guys we were all calling for on here. 

I wonder if maybe my desire for Schwarber this offseason was at least in part due to unhealed trauma of letting him walk in 2022.

A lot of very good posters who I respect (you, Notin, Hitch come to mind immediately - apologies if I missed anybody) told me that hes a hard roster fit, and I do still think it could have been made to work - but that doesnt mean that the presented "cons" against signing Schwarber werent valid. And I may have glossed right over them due to a subconscious bias of wanting to right an old wrong.

Its possible that not resigning Schwarber was one of Blooms biggest mistakes , maybe even his biggest if you believe that JH forced the betts trade

Posted
37 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They just keep these dumb revolving doors because they refuse to sign the right guys in FA.

SS - Dansby Swanson 2023 (would have solved the MIF situation for a long time)

DH - Kyle Schwarber 2022 (everyone knows this)

SP - Kevin Gausman 2022 (instead of a lot of garbage they put through the rotation 22-25)

These are three guys we were all calling for on here. 

I love this post.  IVe already said my piece on Schwarber but I also would like to address Gausman's inclusion.

Can we reopen our debate on splitter vs every other pitch?

Exhibit A that the splitter is the hardest pitch to hit in baseball and is currently king (so hot right now)

Gausman splitter

Posted
41 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They just keep these dumb revolving doors because they refuse to sign the right guys in FA.

SS - Dansby Swanson 2023 (would have solved the MIF situation for a long time)

DH - Kyle Schwarber 2022 (everyone knows this)

SP - Kevin Gausman 2022 (instead of a lot of garbage they put through the rotation 22-25)

These are three guys we were all calling for on here. 

And, Sonny Gray or Lugo in 2024.

Posted
1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

I love this post.  IVe already said my piece on Schwarber but I also would like to address Gausman's inclusion.

Can we reopen our debate on splitter vs every other pitch?

Exhibit A that the splitter is the hardest pitch to hit in baseball and is currently king (so hot right now)

Gausman splitter

I really dont get how everybody is not learning a splitter right now when its so dominant and the grip does most of the work

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Posted
1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

I wonder if maybe my desire for Schwarber this offseason was at least in part due to unhealed trauma of letting him walk in 2022.

A lot of very good posters who I respect (you, Notin, Hitch come to mind immediately - apologies if I missed anybody) told me that hes a hard roster fit, and I do still think it could have been made to work - but that doesnt mean that the presented "cons" against signing Schwarber werent valid. And I may have glossed right over them due to a subconscious bias of wanting to right an old wrong.

Its possible that not resigning Schwarber was one of Blooms biggest mistakes , maybe even his biggest if you believe that JH forced the betts trade

With Masa still on the squad, it wasn't a perfect fit for the next few years. JD was still valuable enough that you could have spun him in a trade prior to '22 and fit Schwarber just fine. Or just faked Schwarber for a year at 1B before letting him DH for 23-25. Once he signed with DD in PHI, I don't think he was ever going to come back to BOS. It would have been cool, but not an option I took seriously. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

And, Sonny Gray or Lugo in 2024.

I don't remember Sonny Gray being someone everyone was clambering for on here. 

Posted
1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

I don't remember Sonny Gray being someone everyone was clambering for on here. 

No everyone, yes. Same with Lugo.

Everyone did not want Schwarber, either.

I might have been the lone Lugo supporter.

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Posted
1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

I don't remember Sonny Gray being someone everyone was clambering for on here. 

I was, back before he signed with Minnesota.

But not this off-season, no.. 

Posted
8 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

And, Sonny Gray or Lugo in 2024.

Or Montgomery, right?  There are always that do better and do worse.  I wanted Montgomery and Snell, and I wasn't alone.  And those two have averaged 4.5 wins per year.

Posted
5 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Everyone did not want Schwarber, either.

The Schwarber trade was one of the most hated trades in RS

Posted
15 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

The Schwarber trade was one of the most hated trades in RS

When we traded Aldo Ramirez for him?

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Posted
13 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

When we traded Aldo Ramirez for him?

Nobody cared that Aldo Ramirez was traded. He was ranked like 13th. The question at the time was "why trade for an injured player, hope he comes back soon." Nobody hated on the trade. It worked out. Everyone knew Schwarber's upside.

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Posted
1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Nobody cared that Aldo Ramirez was traded. He was ranked like 13th. The question at the time was "why trade for an injured player, hope he comes back soon." Nobody hated on the trade. It worked out. Everyone knew Schwarber's upside.

The only thing I remember is some griping about Schwarber being hurt at the time of the trade.  And a certain poster calling him Flintstone over and over. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

The only thing I remember is some griping about Schwarber being hurt at the time of the trade.  And a certain poster calling him Flintstone over and over. 

I don't remember it being a "hated" trade. All I'm saying. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I don't remember it being a "hated" trade. All I'm saying. 

And I don't disagree.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

The only thing I remember is some griping about Schwarber being hurt at the time of the trade.  And a certain poster calling him Flintstone over and over. 

Yes a certain poster still calls him Flintstone. Of course like yourself nobody knew why. It WAS NOT something bad as I think it was thought to be.

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Posted
15 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

The Schwarber trade was one of the most hated trades in RS

By who?  We gave up a nobody who since that trade has played as many MLB games as me…

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

The only thing I remember is some griping about Schwarber being hurt at the time of the trade.  And a certain poster calling him Flintstone over and over. 

You say “called” in the past tense as if he ever stopped…

Posted
25 minutes ago, notin said:

By who?  We gave up a nobody who since that trade has played as many MLB games as me…

I was exaggerating for effect.  But I'd surely guess that the reaction was far more negative than positive.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I was exaggerating for effect.  But I'd surely guess that the reaction was far more negative than positive.

The reaction was "where are the other trades" not "bad trade." 

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Posted
22 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I was exaggerating for effect.  But I'd surely guess that the reaction was far more negative than positive.

I think no one liked waiting for him to come off the IL, but that’s about it…

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Posted
1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

The reaction was "where are the other trades" not "bad trade." 

Was that the year of Chavis for Davis?  And we got Hansel Robles!

That was Bloom’s best deadline, although Vazquez for Abreu is looking really good right now…

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Old Red said:

Yes a certain poster still calls him Flintstone. Of course like yourself nobody knew why. It WAS NOT something bad as I think it was thought to be.

Right.  It was a compliment.  
 

I mean, what professional athlete doesn’t aspire to be compared to an overweight, middle-aged caveman?

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Posted
6 minutes ago, notin said:

Right.  It was a compliment.  

I mean, what professional athlete doesn’t aspire to be compared to an overweight, middle-aged caveman?

You're describing half of our posters most likely. Of course it's complimentary!

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Posted
1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

You're describing half of our posters most likely. Of course it's complimentary!

Complimentary as in free?

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Posted
7 minutes ago, notin said:

Complimentary as in free?

Per Merriam Webster, the first definition, not the second. 

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Posted
Just now, mvp 78 said:

Per Merriam Webster, the first definition, not the second. 

I don’t care what this Mrs Webster person says!  I’m not paying!

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