Article: BREAKING: Rafael Devers Traded To San Francisco Giants

[harmony]

It should be interesting to see Rafael Devers play against the Red Sox next weekend in San Francisco.

This poster will be there on Sunday,

[Nick]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

Get Cora to manage the players?

 

I agree. He acted like a baby.

[FredLynn]

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Can’t wait to read the Globe article that kick Raffy in the butt on the way out the door.

“PerRed Sox sources: the team's feeling was that a $313.5M contract comes with responsibilities to do what is right for the team and that Devers did not live up to those responsibilities. They had enough and they traded him.”

 

Hard to disagree with this

 

 

 

 

[Hugh2]

I’d be interested to know ownerships hand in all this.  You have to believe Breslow had their blessing or it was agreed upon the organization needed to move on from him.

shocking, and gutsy

[notin]

Supposed to fire Cora, not Devers…

[Bellhorn04]

I think they did what they had to do.

[FredLynn]

7 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I clearly explained Duran to DH.

Duran is a very good OF. Turning him into a DH is a mistake 

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, Nick said:

I think it was Bres's preference not to have full time DH.

Agreed, but with Duran being the worst defensive OF'er, except for maybe Refsnyder, he will likely DH more than any of them.

Once Bregman returns, we'll have an extra infielder to cycle through the DH slot to add.

In a sense, we will be replacing Devers bat with a mix of more PAs from Mayer, Anthony and KC while lessening the impact on PAs by Abreu, Duran, Rafaela and Story.

If we DH Refsnyder vs LHPs, who plays RF? Anthony?

vs R

LF: Anthony & Duran (one DHs)

CF: Rafaela (Duran some games)

RF: Abreu

vs L

LF: Duran

CF: Rafaela

RF: Anthony

DH: Refsnyder

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Duran is a very good OF. Turning him into a DH is a mistake 

He used to suck on D, looked pretty good in 2023, much better in 2024, including in CF, then kinda meh, so far this year.

Anthony is better. Rafaela is way better. Abreu is way better and can play RF.

Duran> Refsnyder on D.

It's not that Duran sucks on D, he's just 4th best on the Sox.

Also, we may end up playing Campbell in the OF, in the long run, especially with a healthy Bregman back and KC & mayer hitting well enough to stave off a demotion. (A Story trade might be next.)

Maybe his value would be higher on another team playing the OF more than DH.

[FredLynn]

7 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Those eye rolls were telling.

Cora not even daring to ask Devers to play 1B was too, if we believe what many say happened and did not happen.

I really liked Devers. He looked like a kid who really loved playing the game. He produced like no other Sox player since the Betts and JD days. That may not be saying much, since we've had a pretty weak team with a revolving door of guys names Renfroe, Duvall, O'Neill & Turner.

This is truly amazing, shocking and a bit scary.

As long as Henry replaces him with someone comparable but with a better attitude it’s good. 
I admit I absolutely won’t miss his “me first” attitude.

[FredLynn]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

He used to suck on D, looked pretty good in 2023, much better in 2024, including in CF, then kinda meh, so far this year.

Anthony is better. Rafaela is way better. Abreu is way better and can play RF.

Duran> Refsnyder on D.

It's not that Duran sucks on D, he's just 4th best on the Sox.

Also, we may end up playing Campbell in the OF, in the long run, especially with a healthy Bregman back and KC & mayer hitting well enough to stave off a demotion. (A Story trade might be next.)

Maybe his value would be higher on another team playing the OF more than DH.

I suspect Duran is on the trade block too.

[Hugh2]

I’d be interested to know ownerships hand in all this.  You have to believe Breslow had their blessing or it was agreed upon the organization needed to move on from him.

shocking, and gutsy

[Hugh2]

Wtf, didn’t mean to post that twice.

i think it’s obvious they’re going to rotate the DH position.  
 

this is just shocking.  I’m interested to see what the clubhouse reaction will be, how will they respond?

[mvp 78]

13 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

I think they did what they had to do.

What they thought they had to do. Now there’s a huge hole in the order and will be for years.

[mvp 78]

The reason the relationship soured was all on Breslow anyway. 
 

Fire Breslow.

[mvp 78]

8 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

I suspect Duran is on the trade block too.

Really doubt it now.

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

I suspect Duran is on the trade block too.

It seems like anybody could be on the block, now, except a kid.

Story's contract.

Yoshida's contract.

Duran and the OF logjam, even with a DH slot open. Duran has more value to PHI as an OF'er than to BOS as a DH. (Abreu instead of Duran? Sell high on Rafaela?)

 

[moonslav59]

2 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Wtf, didn’t mean to post that twice.

i think it’s obvious they’re going to rotate the DH position.  
 

this is just shocking.  I’m interested to see what the clubhouse reaction will be, how will they respond?

People talk about how a new manager can shake up a clubhouse. This has to do some serious shaking- for good or bad.

Everybody will be doing a self-check after this doozy.

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

It seems like anybody could be on the block, now, except a kid.

Story's contract.

Yoshida's contract.

Duran and the OF logjam, even with a DH slot open. Duran has more value to PHI as an OF'er than to BOS as a DH. (Abreu instead of Duran? Sell high on Rafaela?)

 

Yoshida could actually fit on the team now.

[FredLynn]

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Really doubt it now.

There’s still too many OFs they do what Moon suggests and make Duran a DH. He’s got more value as an OF. My guess is that Breslow isn’t nearly done.

[mvp 78]

Nobody wants Story’s contract.

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

What they thought they had to do. Now there’s a huge hole in the order and will be for years.

No doubt, that hole cannot be fixed from within the system, this year, no matter how much we may love the 3 kids.

We already have a Toro-Romy thing going that is miraculously replacing our preseason Casas expectations pretty well. Now, we have an impossible ask, and to think this was done before Bregman's return makes it even more shocking.

[mvp 78]

Just now, FredLynn said:

There’s still too many OFs they do what Moon suggests and make Duran a DH. He’s got more value as an OF. My guess is that Breslow isn’t nearly done.

We’ll see. I think Devers was traded for non-baseball reasons. They’ll keep Duran around until the deadline at least.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

This trade reminds me of the Nomar trade in '04.

[FredLynn]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

The reason the relationship soured was all on Breslow anyway. 
 

Fire Breslow.

Ummm….NO. Breslows job is to be the GM. He doesn’t need the permission of the players to make roster moves. The players job is to do what they’re told to do. If that means playing 1B then that’s what they have to do. They don’t have to like it. 

[FredLynn]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

We’ll see. I think Devers was traded for non-baseball reasons. They’ll keep Duran around until the deadline at least.

He’s was traded because of his crap “me first” attitude. We don’t need to rebuild a team with players like that.

[moonslav59]

Just now, mvp 78 said:

Nobody wants Story’s contract.

Nor Yoshida's, but pitching in some serious cash or taking back a bloated contract might be an option.

Duran's poor D, this year makes me think the initial idea is a Duran-Refsnyder DH with Duran playing LF vs some LHPs.

Anthony gets his FT role (LF vs R and RF v L)

Rafaela stays put as the FT CF'er.

When Breg returns, the DH turns into a wider mix, or we make another trade.

[notin]

25 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

I think they did what they had to do.

No.  They had to fire Cora and get a manager who, well, manages his players…

[moonslav59]

2 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

This trade reminds me of the Nomar trade in '04.

Good pull. It does. Let's hope we see the same immediate results.

[notin]

6 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Yoshida could actually fit on the team now.

Clearly this move was made to clear a path for Yoshida…