It's Time to Can Cora

[groovey]

The numbers don't lie 

Most blown saves in the MLB 14 to date

In the 2025 MLB season, the team with the most 1-run losses is the Boston Red Sox with 17 losses in games decided by one run.

The Red Sox lead the majors with 53 errors after leading the league in errors each of the past two seasons. 

If you don't believe the Red Sox have been the worst defensive team in the Bigs for quite some time now I'd love to hear your argument.

And if you don't think Cora should be held accountable for errors and bad defense who should answer for it?

I never understood why after he was involved and found guilty of stealing signs and cheating when he was in Houston and sat out a year why would you bring him back. The Mets took the high road with Beltrán for his involvement in Houston. 

Red Sox manager Alex Cora bragged about 2017 Astros cheating scandal, according to new book, ‘Winning Fixes Everything’ by Evan Drellich

Now it's not even mid season and they are already talking about a fire sale.

John Henry sell this franchise and move on it may not bother you that your team is by far the worst defensive team in baseball and your manager can't win if he isn't cheating but it sure does to some us fans that have been fans longer than you own the team.

 

 

[jdc69]

1 hour ago, groovey said:

The numbers don't lie 

Most blown saves in the MLB 14 to date

In the 2025 MLB season, the team with the most 1-run losses is the Boston Red Sox with 17 losses in games decided by one run.

The Red Sox lead the majors with 53 errors after leading the league in errors each of the past two seasons. 

If you don't believe the Red Sox have been the worst defensive team in the Bigs for quite some time now I'd love to hear your argument.

And if you don't think Cora should be held accountable for errors and bad defense who should answer for it?

I never understood why after he was involved and found guilty of stealing signs and cheating when he was in Houston and sat out a year why would you bring him back. The Mets took the high road with Beltrán for his involvement in Houston. 

Red Sox manager Alex Cora bragged about 2017 Astros cheating scandal, according to new book, ‘Winning Fixes Everything’ by Evan Drellich

Now it's not even mid season and they are already talking about a fire sale.

John Henry sell this franchise and move on it may not bother you that your team is by far the worst defensive team in baseball and your manager can't win if he isn't cheating but it sure does to some us fans that have been fans longer than you own the team.

 

 

I said give it 2/3rds of the season and if his trajectory isnt close to making it to playoffs, goodbye. 

[Duran Is The Man]

i'm all for firing him. but he's not the only one that needs to go.

[mvp 78]

I’m glad there’s another thread about this.

[Randy Red Sox]

1 hour ago, Duran Is The Man said:

i'm all for firing him. but he's not the only one that needs to go.

if Cora is fired then Varitek needs to take over

[jdc69]

2 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

i'm all for firing him. but he's not the only one that needs to go.

True. It was the lack of communication between Cora and Breslow that started the whole Devers/Bregman conundrum. 

[Maxbialystock]

10 hours ago, groovey said:

The numbers don't lie 

Most blown saves in the MLB 14 to date

In the 2025 MLB season, the team with the most 1-run losses is the Boston Red Sox with 17 losses in games decided by one run.

The Red Sox lead the majors with 53 errors after leading the league in errors each of the past two seasons. 

If you don't believe the Red Sox have been the worst defensive team in the Bigs for quite some time now I'd love to hear your argument.

And if you don't think Cora should be held accountable for errors and bad defense who should answer for it?

I never understood why after he was involved and found guilty of stealing signs and cheating when he was in Houston and sat out a year why would you bring him back. The Mets took the high road with Beltrán for his involvement in Houston. 

Red Sox manager Alex Cora bragged about 2017 Astros cheating scandal, according to new book, ‘Winning Fixes Everything’ by Evan Drellich

Now it's not even mid season and they are already talking about a fire sale.

John Henry sell this franchise and move on it may not bother you that your team is by far the worst defensive team in baseball and your manager can't win if he isn't cheating but it sure does to some us fans that have been fans longer than you own the team.

 

 

Nonsense.  The numbers don't lie, but can be misunderstood.  

First and foremost, the two most important skills a MLB team has are hitting and pitching.  Defense is well back from those because--wait for it--the best team fielding percentage in MLB is 99% and the worst one is 98%.  That difference is miniscule, even though I agree every error can be painful and some even cost games. 

When looking at a team's defense, it's better to look at the individual DWAR's of the players.  When you do, you find out that our catcher Narvaez, rightfielder Abreu, centerfielder Rafaela, and thirdbaseman Bregman are all well above average.  Plus Duran in LF and Story at SS are slightly above average.  The two problems are 1b and 2b.  Also, did you know that the Sox lead MLB in total chances, putouts, and are 5th in assists?  They are also ranked 4th in turning double plays.  

I agree the sign stealing was bad, but it's not as though other teams haven't done it, and that certainly includes Pedroia and our Sox.  More to the point,  MLB looked at the case and determined being banned from MLB for a year was the right punishment.  I doubt that Cora has ever bragged about what the Astros did.

Right now the Sox are not 4 games under .500 because of the defense.  Hitting and pitching are far and away the most important skills in MLB, and the Sox team ERA is ranked 22d in MLB and the hitting (runs scored) 6th.  

[Bellhorn04]

1 hour ago, jdc69 said:

True. It was the lack of communication between Cora and Breslow that started the whole Devers/Bregman conundrum. 

Seems to me the Devers situation was going to be messy no matter how they handled it.  Because the player himself has a big attitude problem, as it turns out.

But now that Devers is raking after a nightmarish start, shouldn't Cora get some credit for the actual baseball results we're getting out of Devers?

[Maxbialystock]

42 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Seems to me the Devers situation was going to be messy no matter how they handled it.  Because the player himself has a big attitude problem, as it turns out.

But now that Devers is raking after a nightmarish start, shouldn't Cora get some credit for the actual baseball results we're getting out of Devers?

Yes he should, and I said that weeks ago.  

The "Devers situation" was not messy until Breslow put his foot in his mouth.  Cora had Devers committed to the DH position, where he has hit the best in his 9 year career.  Moreover, replacing Casas at 1b was a piece of cake, as both Toro and Gonzalez have demonstrated.  

 

[jdc69]

1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Seems to me the Devers situation was going to be messy no matter how they handled it.  Because the player himself has a big attitude problem, as it turns out.

But now that Devers is raking after a nightmarish start, shouldn't Cora get some credit for the actual baseball results we're getting out of Devers?

Its not like they took some chance and it didn't work out. It was just a completely avoidable case of lack of attention to detail and unprofessionalism by Cora and Breslow. They get Bregman and first say hes going to play 2nd and then go back on what they said and just put him on 3rd. And then theres all this "he said, he said" stuff, showing the world that the FO and coaches aren't on the same page and seem to have competing visions for the team. Not a great look, but not just a bad look for the public to see but the players themselves. Looks dysfunctional and unsafe.

Personally I think Devers has been proven right. Look at what theyre doing to Campbell.  Asking a rookie, whos trying to find his way to play all these different positions as his stats go down the drain. They play Meyers 3rd in the lineup and he just arrived.

Yes Devers has come around while playing DH but he is and always has been our best hitter so it's not like Cora uncovered some hidden gem. I think he's more responsible for the nightmarish start.

[dgalehouse]

If we could swap Cora for Kevin Cash, I would do it in a minute. But making a change just for changes sake?  That might not work out as good as you might think. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

3 hours ago, Maxbialystock said:

Nonsense.  The numbers don't lie, but can be misunderstood.  

First and foremost, the two most important skills a MLB team has are hitting and pitching.  Defense is well back from those because--wait for it--the best team fielding percentage in MLB is 99% and the worst one is 98%.  That difference is miniscule, even though I agree every error can be painful and some even cost games. 

When looking at a team's defense, it's better to look at the individual DWAR's of the players.  When you do, you find out that our catcher Narvaez, rightfielder Abreu, centerfielder Rafaela, and thirdbaseman Bregman are all well above average.  Plus Duran in LF and Story at SS are slightly above average.  The two problems are 1b and 2b.  Also, did you know that the Sox lead MLB in total chances, putouts, and are 5th in assists?  They are also ranked 4th in turning double plays.  

I agree the sign stealing was bad, but it's not as though other teams haven't done it, and that certainly includes Pedroia and our Sox.  More to the point,  MLB looked at the case and determined being banned from MLB for a year was the right punishment.  I doubt that Cora has ever bragged about what the Astros did.

Right now the Sox are not 4 games under .500 because of the defense.  Hitting and pitching are far and away the most important skills in MLB, and the Sox team ERA is ranked 22d in MLB and the hitting (runs scored) 6th.  

Bad defense directly affects pitching and leads to bad pitching. Bad plays can result in men on base, which forces the moundsman to pitch from the stretch instead of the wind-up, and always extends innings requiring more pitches to retire the side.

More mistakes on the field = more pitches per inning = more chances to make mistake pitches... which most big league hitter clobber.

Last word on fielding percentage: no error is issued for a fielder who doesn't charge a grounder or doesn't get a good enough jump to outrun a fly ball. No E is charged when a first baseman ranges too far to his right for a chopper and nobody covers the bag in time. And no double play can be assumed after a fielder's choice gets the lead runner at 2B -- so a wild or late return throw to 1B is not an error... that's because often it's caused by an imperfect feed throw to the pivot, who maybe double-clutched or rushed the transfer (or in the olden days was trucked into LF by Hal McRae or Don Baylor).

None of those miscues decrease a team's fielding percentage -- but players, managers, coaches, and scouts are very aware of the difference between a sharp, tidy D and a loose, shoddy D.

Fans, too...

[Duran Is The Man]

7 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Seems to me the Devers situation was going to be messy no matter how they handled it.  Because the player himself has a big attitude problem, as it turns out.

But now that Devers is raking after a nightmarish start, shouldn't Cora get some credit for the actual baseball results we're getting out of Devers?

clearly Cora had zero say in the matter. Devers runs the team. or his part of it anyway.

[moonslav59]

19 hours ago, groovey said:

The numbers don't lie 

Most blown saves in the MLB 14 to date

 

I thought our closer was Chapman, not a guy named Cora.

[groovey]

45 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I thought our closer was Chapman, not a guy named Cora.

blown saves leaders

Whitlock 4
Wilson  3
Slaten 3
Wissert 2
Dobbins 1
Chapman 1

The last time I ck it was Cora who decided who was to pitch in the nineth 🙄

 

[illinoisredsox]

14 minutes ago, groovey said:

blown saves leaders

Whitlock 4
Wilson  3
Slaten 3
Wissert 2
Dobbins 1
Chapman 1

The last time I ck it was Cora who decided who was to pitch in the nineth 🙄

 

What does the 9th have to do with a blown save? Blown saves can occur in any inning where a relief pitcher who is not eligible for the win, allows the opposing team to tie a game or take the lead.

I don’t believe any of Whitlocks were in the 9th for example.

It also can be very misleading.  One run game and a pitcher comes in with the bases loaded.  Catcher allows a passed ball and the tie run scores. Blown save for the pitcher.  Not saying that’s been the case for the Sox though.

[moonslav59]

17 minutes ago, groovey said:

blown saves leaders

Whitlock 4
Wilson  3
Slaten 3
Wissert 2
Dobbins 1
Chapman 1

The last time I ck it was Cora who decided who was to pitch in the nineth 🙄

 

These blown saves are largely not in the 9th.

[Jasonbay44]

40 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

These blown saves are largely not in the 9th.

While true, almost none of the blown saves are Chapman’s fault. He’s been good when he’s pitched in save opportunities 

[moonslav59]

47 minutes ago, Jasonbay44 said:

While true, almost none of the blown saves are Chapman’s fault. He’s been good when he’s pitched in save opportunities 

And all those other pitchers with blown saves in earlier innings were the best Cora had to choose from.

[Maxbialystock]

7 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Bad defense directly affects pitching and leads to bad pitching. Bad plays can result in men on base, which forces the moundsman to pitch from the stretch instead of the wind-up, and always extends innings requiring more pitches to retire the side.

More mistakes on the field = more pitches per inning = more chances to make mistake pitches... which most big league hitter clobber.

Last word on fielding percentage: no error is issued for a fielder who doesn't charge a grounder or doesn't get a good enough jump to outrun a fly ball. No E is charged when a first baseman ranges too far to his right for a chopper and nobody covers the bag in time. And no double play can be assumed after a fielder's choice gets the lead runner at 2B -- so a wild or late return throw to 1B is not an error... that's because often it's caused by an imperfect feed throw to the pivot, who maybe double-clutched or rushed the transfer (or in the olden days was trucked into LF by Hal McRae or Don Baylor).

None of those miscues decrease a team's fielding percentage -- but players, managers, coaches, and scouts are very aware of the difference between a sharp, tidy D and a loose, shoddy D.

Fans, too...

 

4 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

clearly Cora had zero say in the matter. Devers runs the team. or his part of it anyway.

Oh stop it.  Just stop it.  Devers does not in any way, shape, or form run the team.  Cora was the one who convinced Devers to make the most of the DH position--after he lost 3b where he had played for 8 seasons--and Raffy did just that.  He's having a career year and is tied for most games played in MLB precisely because he is the DH.  He is also 2d in MLB in rbi's and 10th in OPS.  

Meanwhile Toro and Gonzalez are both worlds better at 1b than Casas was.  Beyond any question, the dilletante in this situation is Breslow who went around his manager to ask Devers to play 1b.  Dumb.  

[Maxbialystock]

7 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Bad defense directly affects pitching and leads to bad pitching. Bad plays can result in men on base, which forces the moundsman to pitch from the stretch instead of the wind-up, and always extends innings requiring more pitches to retire the side.

More mistakes on the field = more pitches per inning = more chances to make mistake pitches... which most big league hitter clobber.

Last word on fielding percentage: no error is issued for a fielder who doesn't charge a grounder or doesn't get a good enough jump to outrun a fly ball. No E is charged when a first baseman ranges too far to his right for a chopper and nobody covers the bag in time. And no double play can be assumed after a fielder's choice gets the lead runner at 2B -- so a wild or late return throw to 1B is not an error... that's because often it's caused by an imperfect feed throw to the pivot, who maybe double-clutched or rushed the transfer (or in the olden days was trucked into LF by Hal McRae or Don Baylor).

None of those miscues decrease a team's fielding percentage -- but players, managers, coaches, and scouts are very aware of the difference between a sharp, tidy D and a loose, shoddy D.

Fans, too...

So we agree that team fielding percentage is meaningless.  Good.  

We also agree that defense can affect pitching.  

And that's why I say a fair evaluation of our defense has to be based on the DWAR's of the individual players because DWAR's include everything a defender does or fails to do.  

Bregman and Mayer at 3b, Rafaela in CF, Abreu in RF, and Narvaez at catcher all are in the top five in their positions in DWAR.  That's half the freaking defense (not including pitchers).  Of the other half, Story does have a positive DWAR and has been very steady, especially on double plays.  The Sox are ranked 4th in MLB in  double plays per game.  And Duran is a decent left fielder.  That leaves just 2b and 1b as the trouble spots.  As far as I'm concerned trouble at 1b is not biggie, but at 2b is, but Cora has not seen fit to bench Campbell--and I think Cora is right.  

 

[moonslav59]

Max, last year, you seemed to think I was making too much of our rotten D, much of which did not show up as errors.

Glad you jumped on the wagon.

Our D has improved in some places, but I never expected the drop by Story and to some extent, Duran.

I'm loving Narvaez more, each day.

Mayer & Campbell are going to be okay.

Rafaela is better than even I thought he was in CF. (His arm has been off target the last week, or so.)

Ref has not killed us in RF, and Abreu more than makes up for him.

[TedYazPapiMookie]

13 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Seems to me the Devers situation was going to be messy no matter how they handled it.  Because the player himself has a big attitude problem, as it turns out.

But now that Devers is raking after a nightmarish start, shouldn't Cora get some credit for the actual baseball results we're getting out of Devers?

Breslow played Cora a bit.  Breslow recognized the two most important things to add wins in a season when he arrived in Boston were:

1 - Devers losing his glove and being the DH the rest of the 10 years

2 - Firing Cora

I was angry when he didn't immediately fire Cora but now, I see the bigger picture.  If he tried to move Devers off 3B he was in for a huge fight but if he talked Cora into Bregman who Cora loves, then he'll have Cora smooth the transition to ownership.  It was a brilliant move!!

Now it's time for step 2 by showing Breslow added two great talents and the team is worse.  It's time to fire Cora and hire his guy.  While Varitek was a great catcher and leader, this roster is very different from the previous generation of players like Varitek.  Remember, the Latin players complained Farrell was too rigid for their tastes, so Cora was picked over better alternatives.  Now Boston needs to go through a healing process because the roster was literally torn down by Bloom and the hometown stars were dismissed as if they were insignificant to the team's success. 

The team needs a guy LIKE Dusty Baker and what he did in Houston but they need the guy to be tight with Breslow.  I can only imagine that Breslow while playing the long game went to his next manager when he got the job and told him it might take a year or two before he could bring him along with all his coaches.  That time has come and it's NOW.  Before the All-star break.  Release Cora and thank him up and down for all his hard work and don't mention his complete lack of success. 

Bring in Breslow's guy and turn the culture around.  Bring back a merit system for playing time and location in the batting order.  Bring back positive feedback for young player learning the adjustment process that is unique to the MLB.  Make the clubhouse truly diverse not Latin biased.  All of these things coupled with the influx of young talent should make for a surprising 2026 club if Breslow can add pitching and dump some wasted salary by Bloom.  

Breslow seems to be playing the long game brilliantly.  Let's hope he finally gets control of the club and picks his staff.

[Bellhorn04]

5 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

Breslow played Cora a bit.  Breslow recognized the two most important things to add wins in a season when he arrived in Boston were:

1 - Devers losing his glove and being the DH the rest of the 10 years

2 - Firing Cora

I was angry when he didn't immediately fire Cora but now, I see the bigger picture.  If he tried to move Devers off 3B he was in for a huge fight but if he talked Cora into Bregman who Cora loves, then he'll have Cora smooth the transition to ownership.  It was a brilliant move!!

Now it's time for step 2 by showing Breslow added two great talents and the team is worse.  It's time to fire Cora and hire his guy.  While Varitek was a great catcher and leader, this roster is very different from the previous generation of players like Varitek.  Remember, the Latin players complained Farrell was too rigid for their tastes, so Cora was picked over better alternatives.  Now Boston needs to go through a healing process because the roster was literally torn down by Bloom and the hometown stars were dismissed as if they were insignificant to the team's success. 

The team needs a guy LIKE Dusty Baker and what he did in Houston but they need the guy to be tight with Breslow.  I can only imagine that Breslow while playing the long game went to his next manager when he got the job and told him it might take a year or two before he could bring him along with all his coaches.  That time has come and it's NOW.  Before the All-star break.  Release Cora and thank him up and down for all his hard work and don't mention his complete lack of success. 

Bring in Breslow's guy and turn the culture around.  Bring back a merit system for playing time and location in the batting order.  Bring back positive feedback for young player learning the adjustment process that is unique to the MLB.  Make the clubhouse truly diverse not Latin biased.  All of these things coupled with the influx of young talent should make for a surprising 2026 club if Breslow can add pitching and dump some wasted salary by Bloom.  

Breslow seems to be playing the long game brilliantly.  Let's hope he finally gets control of the club and picks his staff.

Breslow was the CBO when Cora signed a hefty new extension!

That was part of this brilliant long game?

And "Make the clubhouse truly diverse not Latin biased?"

Please tell us you've just been trolling us all this time.  

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

It's true the Red Sox need to start diversifying more. Over 20 years ago, Theo Epstein could see they couldn't possibly win with too many Dominicans -- like Martinez, Ortiz and Ramirez -- so he looked to the Far East and brought in Dave Roberts, who is half Japanese, and Kevin Millar, who was actually going to Japan, but turned his plane around.

Then in '07 Theo signed Matsusaka and Okajima, who are both literally Japanese, and the Sox won another ring.

Breslow and Bailey were both relievers on Boston's '13 champs, but they had mound time diminished by the presence of Japanese set-up man Tazawa and closer Uehara... so maybe the current braintrust views too much diversity as bittersweet.

It's not like the Red Sox have a history of racism tainting their place in the standings. Sure, they were the last MLB team to allow an African American player to wear their red socks, but it only took them 20 years after Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier to finally recruit a multi-cultural roster good enough to win the pennant.

That was in 1967, when the front office looked at the roster and saw way too many players with last names ending in vowels -- Yastrzemski, Petrocelli, Conigliaro, Stange, Santiago, Lyle -- and balanced it out by putting as many as six black players on the field in Scott, Foy, Smith, Tartabull, Howard and Wyatt. Those guys took them to Game Seven of the World Series.

[TedYazPapiMookie]

33 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Breslow was the CBO when Cora signed a hefty new extension!

That was part of this brilliant long game?

And "Make the clubhouse truly diverse not Latin biased?"

Please tell us you've just been trolling us all this time.  

Wow.  Blind to the bias?  Not surprised.  Lots of snarky comments usually means a surface observer.

If Breslow stomps his feet related to the Cora contract, is he the CBO?  I don't think so.  He created evidence of a failing manager.  The Cora money is irrelevant if the owners really want to win. Cora's $14Million being eaten is far less than Yoshida, Story and Devers.  I think it was nicely finessed by Breslow.  He did NOT charge the bull head on; he did all the right moves to bring the bull to his knees while pretending to root for him. Brilliant!!  Sophisticated politics.

FYI... you might want to double check the meaning of trolling.  Your behavior towards me is actually trolling.  Me voicing my opinion about baseball topics, is not trolling because you disagree with them.  They are simply another person's opinion about some aspect of baseball, in this case, the state of the clubhouse with Cora as manager.  Much different than the state of the clubhouse under Farrell because he was a hardnosed old school type player and gravitated to players who behaved that way.

Trolling – (verb), as it relates to internet, is the deliberate act, of making random unsolicited and/or controversial comments with the intent to provoke an emotional knee jerk reaction from unsuspecting readers to engage in a fight or argument.  

In essence, what Trolling is NOT - is speaking your mind about baseball issues - like I do.  What it is - harassing other readers with controversial comments with the intent to provoke.  Example - saying Breslow was the CBO when Cora signed a hefty new extension, that's a baseball comment in response to what I wrote.  "That was part of this brilliant long game?" is a sentence intended to provoke.  The comment is sarcastic and condescending toward the writer in hopes of yielding a negative reaction.  So, tell me, is it your intent to troll every comment I make?  It's hard to remember one that wasn't meant to provoke any time you disagree.  In fact, that seems to be the modus operandi of many of the more frequent commenters on the site.

[mvp 78]

Cora's extension wasn't long enough. 

[moonslav59]

9 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

  ...act, of making random unsolicited and/or controversial comments with the intent to provoke an emotional knee jerk reaction from unsuspecting readers to engage in a fight or argument.  

(Like this)

"Lots of snarky comments usually means a surface observer."

 

I fixed it for you.

[Bellhorn04]

17 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

In essence, what Trolling is NOT - is speaking your mind about baseball issues - like I do.  What it is - harassing other readers with controversial comments with the intent to provoke.  Example - saying Breslow was the CBO when Cora signed a hefty new extension, that's a baseball comment in response to what I wrote.  "That was part of this brilliant long game?" is a sentence intended to provoke.  The comment is sarcastic and condescending toward the writer in hopes of yielding a negative reaction.  So, tell me, is it your intent to troll every comment I make?  It's hard to remember one that wasn't meant to provoke any time you disagree.  In fact, that seems to be the modus operandi of many of the more frequent commenters on the site.

Your theory that Breslow is playing some sort of long game that includes a plan to get Cora fired is a novel one.  You're telling us stuff that has never been reported anywhere else.  You're telling us stuff that defies credulity.  Sorry if you don't understand this.

 

 

[mvp 78]

6 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

Breslow played Cora a bit.  Breslow recognized the two most important things to add wins in a season when he arrived in Boston were:

1 - Devers losing his glove and being the DH the rest of the 10 years

2 - Firing Cora

1. This doesn't even make sense as Breslow was happy NOT signing Bregman going into the season. There was a good chance that Devers was going to be the 3b in 2025. The trade proposals to the Cardinals were never realistic enough because they always included salary dumps that the Cardinals wouldn't take on, same as Breslow faced when dealing with the Mariners.

2. If he wants to add wins by firing Cora, why extend him. It makes zero sense.