Rumor: Red Sox Offer 13 Year, $632 Million Contract To Juan Soto

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

Why would the Sox be fighting for team options at his age 38/39/40 seasons lol? 

It's amazing what people just make up and throw at the wall. 

Scientists have found out that there's actually SURGES of activity in brains before they die. This is the only way things like this can be explained. 

[Bellhorn04]

2 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Why would the Sox be fighting for team options at his age 38/39/40 seasons lol? 

It's amazing what people just make up and throw at the wall. 

Maybe it's actually about options for Juan to buy a chunk of Fenway Sports Group?

Yeah, that's the ticket...

[Hugh2]

John Henry "Oh hi Scott it looks like we are close to a deal with Juan but we have just one hang up.  We really want to have player options for his age 40 season"

Scott Boras "Gee John I don't know, we really wanted to take that $638 million dollar offer but how dare you ask for the right to pay him even more money than that when he's at retirement age"

John Henry "oh.....well F you then go sign with the Mets"

 

See how dumb that sounds. 

[mvp 78]

4 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Maybe it's actually about options for Juan to buy a chunk of Fenway Sports Group?

Yeah, that's the ticket...

Not sure it's allowable. 

[Bellhorn04]

5 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

John Henry "Oh hi Scott it looks like we are close to a deal with Juan but we have just one hang up.  We really want to have player options for his age 40 season"

Scott Boras "Gee John I don't know, we really wanted to take that $638 million dollar offer but how dare you ask for the right to pay him even more money than that when he's at retirement age"

John Henry "oh.....well F you then go sign with the Mets"

 

See how dumb that sounds. 

*In theory* it could be the team offering 11 guaranteed years + 2 team option years and the player insisting on 13 guaranteed years.

[mvp 78]

4 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

*In theory* it could be the team offering 11 guaranteed years + 2 team option years and the player insisting on 13 guaranteed years.

If you're in for 11, you may as well accept the final 2. 

[Hugh2]

34 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

*In theory* it could be the team offering 11 guaranteed years + 2 team option years and the player insisting on 13 guaranteed years.

In theory, but we know that's BS.  If that was the case NY would still be in it, and the Mets would be all over that.  There's no way he doesn't have a better option than 11 years out there. 

Also, there's literally NO ONE reporting what Stork said, he's making s*** up.  That's my gripe. 

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Why would the Sox be fighting for team options at his age 38/39/40 seasons lol? 

It's amazing what people just make up and throw at the wall. 

It could be Soto is asking for another guaranteed year, and BOS is insisting on a team option year w buy ouy.

[Hugh2]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

It could be Soto is asking for another guaranteed year, and BOS is insisting on a team option year w buy ouy.

 

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

It could be Soto is asking for another guaranteed year, and BOS is insisting on a team option year w buy ouy.

You’re assuming Storks comment is correct and he knows what he’s talking about.

has anyone anywhere mentioned this? Otherwise I’m done conversing about Madstorks made up theories 

[Bellhorn04]

Stork doesn't even qualify as an unreliable source.  

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Stork doesn't even qualify as an unreliable source.  

Banned book in some states. 

[notin]

16 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Stork doesn't even qualify as an unreliable source.  

 He’s three grades below “Alabama UFO Spotter” on the Reliability Scale…

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

 

You’re assuming Storks comment is correct and he knows what he’s talking about.

has anyone anywhere mentioned this? Otherwise I’m done conversing about Madstorks made up theories 

The only thing I assume about STORK is he is full of BS.

If he's right about the option, it's a blind squirrel on a broken clock.

[drewski6]

I dont think they are there yet, taking the best offer, the one they want to sign and negotiating against it. Thats like a final step.

Its a good sign, however, if Boras is like "we really like your offer but want you to guarantee years 12,13"

I think right now they are fielding offers and trying to get teams to continue competing against each other. Could be wrong.

Hangup implies, however, that they are close to an agreement and just need to work out some final hurdles. I dont think thats the case. Could be wrong.

[Bellhorn04]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

I dont think they are there yet, taking the best offer, the one they want to sign and negotiating against it. Thats like a final step.

Its a good sign, however, if Boras is like "we really like your offer but want you to guarantee years 12,13"

I think right now they are fielding offers and trying to get teams to continue competing against each other. Could be wrong.

Hangup implies, however, that they are close to an agreement and just need to work out some final hurdles. I dont think thats the case. Could be wrong.

Please don't pay attention to anything MADSTORK says.  He's basically a troll we only allow to post because he's entertaining.

[Randy Red Sox]

On 11/29/2024 at 11:29 AM, mvp 78 said:

So it's Soto or Burnes & Bregman basically? Bregman is looking for 300M! Pass!

total pass on Bregman.  Devers will go squirrely

[Larry Cook]

9 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

total pass on Bregman.  Devers will go squirrely

Unless bres-slow thinks Bergman makes us a better team, I think bres-slow passes on him!!!!

[moonslav59]

8 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Unless bres-slow thinks Bergman makes us a better team, I think bres-slow passes on him!!!!

Bregman would certainly make us better, but at what cost and vs who else at a similar cost?

I'm not a fan of Arenado, and I still want Casas in our line-up, maybe as a co-1B/DH w Devers, but a trade with STL might make sense. 

Somehow including Helsley and or Yoshida would clinch the deal, for me. It's just 1 year for Helsley, so the return package should not be too high.

1. Duran CF

2. Soto LF

3. Devers 1B/DH

4. Casas DH/1B

5. Campbell 2B

6. Anthony RF

7. Story SS

8. Arenado 3B

9. Wong & ____ C

Bench: C, DHam or Grissom, Rafaela & Refsnyder (assuming we trade Abreu)

[Hugh2]

No matter how you slice it 13/632 is some serious money. 

[Bellhorn04]

5 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

No matter how you slice it 13/632 is some serious money. 

Sure is.  Not that anyone knows if this offer was actually made...

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

6 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

No matter how you slice it 13/632 is some serious money. 

John Henry's accountants have it calculated down to a final offer that Cohen will top at the last minute that will make Soto the highest-paid ballplayer ever, a Met forever, and save the Red Sox $666 million dollars.

[Hugh2]

16 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

John Henry's accountants have it calculated down to a final offer that Cohen will top at the last minute that will make Soto the highest-paid ballplayer ever, a Met forever, and save the Red Sox $666 million dollars.

John Henry does not know the exact dollar figure the Mets are going to offer. 

You don't offer $638 million dollars unless you're ready to pay someone $638 million dollars. 

[Hugh2]

21 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Sure is.  Not that anyone knows if this offer was actually made...

Hasn't it been confirmed? I think mutliple sources have confirmed this offer now and even when Passan and others attacked Pepn and Mic they didn't deny the offer being made at all, only Soto and the Sox being in agreement. 

Red Sox offer $632 million dollars

Mets offer $660 million dollars. 

All as of two days ago. 

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

Hasn't it been confirmed? I think mutliple sources have confirmed this offer now and even when Passan and others attacked Pepn and Mic they didn't deny the offer being made at all, only Soto and the Sox being in agreement. 

Red Sox offer $632 million dollars

Mets offer $660 million dollars. 

All as of two days ago. 

What's 28M between friends? Also, the tax implications of NY vs MA make this a lot closer than it looks.

[Hugh2]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

What's 28M between friends? Also, the tax implications of NY vs MA make this a lot closer than it looks.

I think the tax implications would actually make Boston the higher offer.  We. Might. Actually. Win. This.

 

Still, I don't think you can ever count out the LA/NY markets, although LA has been very quite on this front, I believe the reports that it's down between us and the Mets. 

Still, I hope Yankee fans truly believe they will resign him.  I think they will be more disappointed than we are to not land him. 

[notin]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

I think the tax implications would actually make Boston the higher offer.  We. Might. Actually. Win. This.

 

Still, I don't think you can ever count out the LA/NY markets, although LA has been very quite on this front, I believe the reports that it's down between us and the Mets. 

Still, I hope Yankee fans truly believe they will resign him.  I think they will be more disappointed than we are to not land him. 

All things equal (except taxes), don’t count out the legacy implications of being a Met.

 

In Boston, he gets lumped in with a bunch of Hall of Fame caliber left fielders, including Williams, Yaz, Rice and Manny.  But who’s the best Mets hitter ever? (Hint: it might be Soto if he signs there.)

[mvp 78]

8 minutes ago, notin said:

All things equal (except taxes), don’t count out the legacy implications of being a Met.

 

In Boston, he gets lumped in with a bunch of Hall of Fame caliber left fielders, including Williams, Yaz, Rice and Manny.  But who’s the best Mets hitter ever? (Hint: it might be Soto if he signs there.)

1. David Wright

2. Strawberry

3. Beltran

4. Reyes

5. Keith Hernandez

Lindor has a chance to become #1 by the end of his contract. 

[moonslav59]

According to cots, the Sox are still $67M under the line, after the Chapman signing. This includes the 3 first year arb estimates for Houck, Duran & Crawford.

If we spend $50M a year on Soto, and try to stay under the second tax line, that would leave us $37M to spend on a SP'er, another RP'er and a catcher. (We could lower the cost by making a trade.)

$27M per for Fried and $10M per for Holmes or Estevez? (Trade for a 1 year, defensive catcher?)

[mvp 78]

19 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

According to cots, the Sox are still $67M under the line, after the Chapman signing. This includes the 3 first year arb estimates for Houck, Duran & Crawford.

If we spend $50M a year on Soto, and try to stay under the second tax line, that would leave us $37M to spend on a SP'er, another RP'er and a catcher. (We could lower the cost by making a trade.)

$27M per for Fried and $10M per for Holmes or Estevez? (Trade for a 1 year, defensive catcher?)

 

[Hugh2]

40 minutes ago, notin said:

All things equal (except taxes), don’t count out the legacy implications of being a Met.

 

In Boston, he gets lumped in with a bunch of Hall of Fame caliber left fielders, including Williams, Yaz, Rice and Manny.  But who’s the best Mets hitter ever? (Hint: it might be Soto if he signs there.)

I think it's exactly the opposite. 

He gets to be AMONG those other great Dominicans.

It's also been widely reported Soto wants to be "the man" he will still be second fiddle in NY to the Yankees if he's on the Mets.  There's also been talk that if all is equal Boston is the favorite.