5/8 @ Braves

[moonslav59]

Pit and Oak are not good teams. They are -22 and -27 in run differentials so far.

 

Agreed.

 

I'm not sure MIN is as good as their record indicates, either.

 

I wish we got to play them, when they were sucking.

 

I wish we played the Astros, already.

[moonslav59]

It really sucks we have to play the Braves, every year, while other teams get patsies.

[Oscars]

1/20 with RISP in the series for the Red Sox.🤮

The Sox have a very inconsistent offence .

[moonslav59]

1/20 with RISP in the series for the Red Sox.🤮

The Sox have a very inconsistent offence .

 

1 for 20 is very consistent.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Boston is still having its 2Bman trying to get up to MLB speed, Cooper is a plug-in not much better than Dalbec, Romy Gonzalez is playing his 1st game at 1B in MLB, Pivetta just had a month off due to a sore arm. 33% of the lineup every night shouldn't be at this level

 

I still believe that it will be a tight race for last place in the AL East. Will the SOX have to give up their basement apartment? Stay tuned.

[Old Red]

It really sucks we have to play the Braves, every year, while other teams get patsies.

 

😭😂🤭🙈🤮

[Bellhorn04]

It really sucks we have to play the Braves, every year, while other teams get patsies.

 

Everybody plays everybody now.

[mvp 78]

1/20 with RISP in the series for the Red Sox.

The Sox have a very inconsistent offence .

 

DFA the 40 man roster.

[jad]

Everybody plays everybody now.

 

Yeah, but it's not fair, because everyone gets to play the REd Sox, and we never do!

[Bellhorn04]

Yeah, but it's not fair, because everyone gets to play the REd Sox, and we never do!

 

Well, we're not doormats, but we're Maestros of Mediocrity.

[moonslav59]

Everybody plays everybody now.

 

Over years, yes, but the rival match-ups are every year. (They switched it up so we play PHI every other year and ATL the other, and so does TOR.) The Yanks get the Mets and BAL gets WSH.

[moonslav59]

Yeah, but it's not fair, because everyone gets to play the REd Sox, and we never do!

 

Good one!

[Bellhorn04]

Over years, yes, but the rival match-ups are every year. (They switched it up so we play PHI every other year and ATL the other, and so does TOR.) The Yanks get the Mets and BAL gets WSH.

 

Everybody plays everybody every year now, is what I meant.

[moonslav59]

Everybody plays everybody every year now, is what I meant.

 

Yes. You are right. My bad.

 

I think the rivalry series is just 2 games, a year, so it's not a biggie, but with ATL & PHI being powerhouses, these days, it's not helping our already meager chances at doing something, this year.

[Bellhorn04]

Yes. You are right. My bad.

 

I think the rivalry series is just 2 games, a year, so it's not a biggie, but with ATL & PHI being powerhouses, these days, it's not helping our already meager chances at doing something, this year.

 

I think the deal now is you play the rivalry team 4 times and every other team at least 3 times.

[moonslav59]

I think the deal now is you play the rivalry team 4 times and every other team at least 3 times.

 

Ah, 2 and 2 vs 3 alternating home and away.

 

That is better.

[Old Red]

Agreed.

 

I'm not sure MIN is as good as their record indicates, either.

 

I wish we got to play them, when they were sucking.

 

I wish we played the Astros, already.

 

Give me the toughest schedule, and put me in the toughest Div anytime, and let the chips fall where they may.🤫

[notin]

Well, we're not doormats, but we're Maestros of Mediocrity.

 

Better summary. Despite finishing last the past two seasons, it's not like the Sox are winning 50 games or even 60 games. They're hanging around the .500 mark...

[moonslav59]

Better summary. Despite finishing last the past two seasons, it's not like the Sox are winning 50 games or even 60 games. They're hanging around the .500 mark...

 

We had some real stinkers before 1967, but after that year, we have not had all that many really bad years.

 

Based on worst winning % in team history, here are our worst seasons after '67:

 

.400 in 2020 (short season) 12th worst all time

 

.426 in 2012 (17th worst) Right before a ring season

 

.438 in 2014 (19th worst) Right after a ring season

 

.451 in 1992 (24th worst) 9 wins from .500

 

.470 in 1994 (27th worst) Short season

 

.481 in 1983 (32nd worst and just 3 wins away from .500 and sandwiched between winning seasons)

 

There have really just been 4-5 really bad seasons since 1967 (58 seasons)

 

[notin]

We had some real stinkers before 1967, but after that year, we have not had all that many really bad years.

 

Based on worst winning % in team history, here are our worst seasons after '67:

 

.400 in 2020 (short season) 12th worst all time

 

.426 in 2012 (17th worst) Right before a ring season

 

.438 in 2014 (19th worst) Right after a ring season

 

.451 in 1992 (24th worst) 9 wins from .500

 

.470 in 1994 (27th worst) Short season

 

.481 in 1983 (32nd worst and just 3 wins away from .500 and sandwiched between winning seasons)

 

There have really just been 4-5 really bad seasons since 1967 (58 seasons)

 

 

The Sox have hit that .481 mark three times in the past decade, all three times coming in last place. Interestingly, they are the only 3 times since the league went to 3 divisions a team with a .481 winning percentage came in last place. (The 1991 Angels anthe 2005 Nationals did come in last with .500 records. The 1991 Angels came in last with a .500 record with 2 divisions per league.)

[Maxbialystock]

We had some real stinkers before 1967, but after that year, we have not had all that many really bad years.

 

Based on worst winning % in team history, here are our worst seasons after '67:

 

.400 in 2020 (short season) 12th worst all time

 

.426 in 2012 (17th worst) Right before a ring season

 

.438 in 2014 (19th worst) Right after a ring season

 

.451 in 1992 (24th worst) 9 wins from .500

 

.470 in 1994 (27th worst) Short season

 

.481 in 1983 (32nd worst and just 3 wins away from .500 and sandwiched between winning seasons)

 

There have really just been 4-5 really bad seasons since 1967 (58 seasons)

 

 

An excellent laydown. Thanks.

 

However, right now I'm pessimistic about the 2024 Sox because I believe the pitching and the pitching alone has kept them above .500. The hitting stinks and so does the defense. The Sox pitching miraculously has the lowest ERA in MLB, and I don't see that lasting much longer.

[moonslav59]

An excellent laydown. Thanks.

 

However, right now I'm pessimistic about the 2024 Sox because I believe the pitching and the pitching alone has kept them above .500. The hitting stinks and so does the defense. The Sox pitching miraculously has the lowest ERA in MLB, and I don't see that lasting much longer.

 

I'm not thrilled about this year's team, either, despite the pitching surprises.

 

Not being god-awful is not something fans want to hope for.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

We had some real stinkers before 1967, but after that year, we have not had all that many really bad years.

 

Based on worst winning % in team history, here are our worst seasons after '67:

 

.400 in 2020 (short season) 12th worst all time

 

.426 in 2012 (17th worst) Right before a ring season

 

.438 in 2014 (19th worst) Right after a ring season

 

.451 in 1992 (24th worst) 9 wins from .500

 

.470 in 1994 (27th worst) Short season

 

.481 in 1983 (32nd worst and just 3 wins away from .500 and sandwiched between winning seasons)

 

There have really just been 4-5 really bad seasons since 1967 (58 seasons)

 

 

A lot of fans like to dismiss 2020 and not give the Sox the discredit they deserve. If they played an entire season with that cast of miscasts, I'm confident they would've been that bad.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

An excellent laydown. Thanks.

 

However, right now I'm pessimistic about the 2024 Sox because I believe the pitching and the pitching alone has kept them above .500. The hitting stinks and so does the defense. The Sox pitching miraculously has the lowest ERA in MLB, and I don't see that lasting much longer.

 

It will be hard for the pitching to excel at this rate for five more months, because there's really little depth anywhere in the org to help the rotation when others inevitably wear down or need a stint on the IL. But the staff can remain a positive.

 

It will be hard for the defense to suck as badly as last year, even without Story -- the outfield is improved, and the rookie DP combo is at least young and athletic (Ceddanne and Griz will have growing pains, but can't be as bad as Kike-Valdez).

 

But the offense isn't going to get appreciably better. Devers will heat up with the weather, but still not have protection in the line-up, and still feel the burden of being paid to be the man. The only man... the lonely man...

[moonslav59]

A lot of fans like to dismiss 2020 and not give the Sox the discredit they deserve. If they played an entire season with that cast of miscasts, I'm confident they would've been that bad.

 

One could argue .400 was overperforming.

[moonslav59]

It will be hard for the pitching to excel at this rate for five more months, because there's really little depth anywhere in the org to help the rotation when others inevitably wear down or need a stint on the IL. But the staff can remain a positive.

 

It will be hard for the defense to suck as badly as last year, even without Story -- the outfield is improved, and the rookie DP combo is at least young and athletic (Ceddanne and Griz will have growing pains, but can't be as bad as Kike-Valdez).

 

But the offense isn't going to get appreciably better. Devers will heat up with the weather, but still not have protection in the line-up, and still feel the burden of being paid to be the man. The only man... the lonely man...

 

I don't disagree, but many of us said the same thing about our farm, when Bello, Crawford, Houck and Wink were there.

 

We also were able to add prospects Whitlock, Slaten, Bernardino and others without drafting them.

 

That being said, I have very little hopes in our prospects, especiallt starters.

[notin]

It will be hard for the pitching to excel at this rate for five more months, because there's really little depth anywhere in the org to help the rotation when others inevitably wear down or need a stint on the IL. But the staff can remain a positive.

 

It will be hard for the defense to suck as badly as last year, even without Story -- the outfield is improved, and the rookie DP combo is at least young and athletic (Ceddanne and Griz will have growing pains, but can't be as bad as Kike-Valdez).

 

But the offense isn't going to get appreciably better. Devers will heat up with the weather, but still not have protection in the line-up, and still feel the burden of being paid to be the man. The only man... the lonely man...

 

I imagine the Sox are going to have to add to the minor league pitching depth in other ways, like they did to get Fitts and Sandlin.

 

If they are sellers at the deadline, any of Jansen, Martin, O’Neill, Pivetta and possibly even Cooper or Chase Anderson could be dealt in trades that may net minor league pitching…

[moonslav59]

I imagine the Sox are going to have to add to the minor league pitching depth in other ways, like they did to get Fitts and Sandlin.

 

If they are sellers at the deadline, any of Jansen, Martin, O’Neill, Pivetta and possibly even Cooper or Chase Anderson could be dealt in trades that may net minor league pitching…

 

We've done okay adding pitching prospects in other ways than drafting or IFA: (I won't go way back to ERod & others)

 

Whitlock

Winckowski

Schreiber

Bernardino

Slaten

Fitts

Sandlin

Gambrell

Penrod

Benitez

Olivarez

Judice

[notin]

We've done okay adding pitching prospects in other ways than drafting or IFA: (I won't go way back to ERod & others)

 

Whitlock

Winckowski

Schreiber

Bernardino

Slaten

Fitts

Sandlin

Gambrell

Penrod

Benitez

Olivarez

Judice

 

Weissert...

[notin]

It will be hard for the pitching to excel at this rate for five more months, because there's really little depth anywhere in the org to help the rotation when others inevitably wear down or need a stint on the IL. But the staff can remain a positive.

 

 

And this bothered me all off-season because MLB arms like Eric Lauer, Domingo German, Jake Odorizzi, Zack Davies, Daulton Jeffries, and Adrian Sampson all signed minor league deals. Opportunity was there...