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Well now it should be obvious that whoever is in charge that John Henry has put the financial shackles on the payroll. Enjoy your 3-5 years Craig because you don't have a chance in hell at doing any better than your predecessor.
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Have to give Breslow a fair shot. He's made some good moves given the constraints he seems to be under. You can make sense of what he's doing at least. That wasn't always the case with Bloom.

 

I'm optimistic about Breslow, and still pissed at Henry.

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History repeating itself here on Talksox.

 

Blame the GM for not spending money not provided.

 

that was my exact point in starting this thread. Maybe you missed the point--this was not on Bloom and it won't be on Breslow. 100% on John Henry. Face RSN John. YOU and YOU ALONE are the problem.

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History repeating itself here on Talksox.

 

Blame the GM for not spending money not provided.

 

That wasn’t what he was saying at all, but you were so quick to defend that BLOOMING idiot who had enough money to go over the CBT, sign an injured Story, and outbid EVERYONE for Yoshida.

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That wasn’t what he was saying at all, but you were so quick to defend that BLOOMING idiot who had enough money to go over the CBT, sign an injured Story, and outbid EVERYONE for Yoshida.

 

Well, who can't see Red's point here... and what boss wouldn't look at Bloom's two most costliest free agent signings at the end of 2022 and say, "Chaim... we gotta talk."

 

Bloom: "I know, they're awe-" John Heinie: "They blow!"

 

This was after the owner looked over at third base and the player he was persuaded to pay more money than anyone in Red Sox history... who leads the majors in errors the past five years (and those only include the ones official scorers charged him with).

 

And then the replacement CBO spends more money on a pitcher than Bloom ever did -- a starter with a borderline 5 ERA the past two years -- with an opt-out he'll use if he's actually good... but the guy needs an elbow operation and is lost for at least this season. Of course, JH still has to pay him the full salary.

 

Is it really any wonder why Boston's owner has just put an absolute freeze on the budget?

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Well, who can't see Red's point here... and what boss wouldn't look at Bloom's two most costliest free agent signings at the end of 2022 and say, "Chaim... we gotta talk."

 

Bloom: "I know, they're awe-" John Heinie: "They blow!"

 

This was after the owner looked over at third base and the player he was persuaded to pay more money than anyone in Red Sox history... who leads the majors in errors the past five years (and those only include the ones official scorers charged him with).

 

And then the replacement CBO spends more money on a pitcher than Bloom ever did -- a starter with a borderline 5 ERA the past two years -- with an opt-out he'll use if he's actually good... but the guy needs an elbow operation and is lost for at least this season. Of course, JH still has to pay him the full salary.

 

Is it really any wonder why Boston's owner has just put an absolute freeze on the budget?

 

I still don’t get the Gio signing. If the Red Sox wasn’t going to do anything else why spend $18M on a pitcher that now goes close to $40M. Speaking of $40M that’s pretty much what the Red Sox are paying JT, Sale, and Gio this year. I’m sure JH is just thrilled with that.🙈🤭

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I still don’t get the Gio signing. If the Red Sox wasn’t going to do anything else why spend $18M on a pitcher that now goes close to $40M. Speaking of $40M that’s pretty much what the Red Sox are paying JT, Sale, and Gio this year. I’m sure JH is just thrilled with that.

 

I never got it.

 

But it's Opening Day, and today, I'm settling all family business. In various texts this offseason, I have defended Red Sox players, the manager, coaches, the last three CBOs and the owner...

 

... all except Sam Kennedy -- but for him, we have a plan ticket to Vegas, and there's a car waiting to drive him to the airport. Clemenza is sitting in the backseat.

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Well, who can't see Red's point here... and what boss wouldn't look at Bloom's two most costliest free agent signings at the end of 2022 and say, "Chaim... we gotta talk."

 

Bloom: "I know, they're awe-" John Heinie: "They blow!"

 

This was after the owner looked over at third base and the player he was persuaded to pay more money than anyone in Red Sox history... who leads the majors in errors the past five years (and those only include the ones official scorers charged him with).

 

And then the replacement CBO spends more money on a pitcher than Bloom ever did -- a starter with a borderline 5 ERA the past two years -- with an opt-out he'll use if he's actually good... but the guy needs an elbow operation and is lost for at least this season. Of course, JH still has to pay him the full salary.

 

Is it really any wonder why Boston's owner has just put an absolute freeze on the budget?

 

Poor John. The franchise is only worth $5.5 billion or something absurd like that now.

 

As usual, we're the ones who pay for all of it.

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Poor John. The franchise is only worth $5.5 billion or something absurd like that now.

 

As usual, we're the ones who pay for all of it.

 

I’ve been saying for 3 yrs now that JH has used up his usefulness, and it was time to sell, and move on, but I kept hearing be careful what you wish for. I guess you can’t please everyone.

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that was my exact point in starting this thread. Maybe you missed the point--this was not on Bloom and it won't be on Breslow. 100% on John Henry. Face RSN John. YOU and YOU ALONE are the problem.

 

Then, this should be the title of your thread, IMO.

 

(I don't entirely agree with that, either, but another year or two of this, and I will.)

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Craig Breslow= Chaim Bloom pt 2.

 

This board spent years complaining about how Bloom was horrible for this franchise and the reason the Sox sucked. There was a CABAL of posters that supported the CBO because they were PAID BY THE FO but were routinely berated by the haters.

 

But I'm supposed to see this post as only being critical of John Henry?

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Craig Breslow= Chaim Bloom pt 2.

 

This board spent years complaining about how Bloom was horrible for this franchise and the reason the Sox sucked. There was a CABAL of posters that supported the CBO because they were PAID BY THE FO but were routinely berated by the haters.

 

But I'm supposed to see this post as only being critical of John Henry?

 

JH putting the shackles on the payroll for whoever was in charge was the main clue. It certainly wasn’t blaming Bloom for not having the money to spend. The PBA still lives on here as do the Bloom Bashers.

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JH putting the shackles on the payroll for whoever was in charge was the main clue. It certainly wasn’t blaming Bloom for not having the money to spend. The PBA still lives on here as do the Bloom Bashers.

 

So Chaim Bloom did the best job he could reasonably do then?

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So Chaim Bloom did the best job he could reasonably do then?

 

We’ve gone over that a 1000 times already, so everyone is entitled to their own conclusions. For me I was against the hiring the second it was announced.

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Craig Breslow= Chaim Bloom pt 2.

 

This board spent years complaining about how Bloom was horrible for this franchise and the reason the Sox sucked. There was a CABAL of posters that supported the CBO because they were PAID BY THE FO but were routinely berated by the haters.

 

But I'm supposed to see this post as only being critical of John Henry?

 

I see it as 'a new thread in which to complain about ownership, CBOs and anyone else responsible for us sucking'.

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I see it as 'a new thread in which to complain about ownership, CBOs and anyone else responsible for us sucking'.

 

There is definitely plenty of blame to go around, around, and around, and has gone around, around, and around.🙈

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I see it as 'a new thread in which to complain about ownership, CBOs and anyone else responsible for us sucking'.

 

But that's apparently not the point of this very clear thread which is only to complain about John Henry!

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I've always been a big fan of "the buck stops here" mentality. Something you will never see in a boston sports franchise.

 

Maybe they take after the posters in here who have no accountability and always have to be right. ME? oh my poop certainly stink but I'll own it. Just look at my tag line, I was wrong....dead wrong, but this authentic gosh darn it.

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But that's apparently not the point of this very clear thread which is only to complain about John Henry!

 

Does it really matter one way, or the other? Some see it one way, and some see it another. Some like to analyze more than others. Trust the one who started things to know what they meant, and any questions ask them, and then go from there. It Should be easy peasy.

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I've always been a big fan of "the buck stops here" mentality. Something you will never see in a boston sports franchise.

 

Maybe they take after the posters in here who have no accountability and always have to be right. ME? oh my poop certainly stink but I'll own it. Just look at my tag line, I was wrong....dead wrong, but this authentic gosh darn it.

 

From the guy who cried, took his toys, and went home, and said he was never coming back. That was the best post ever.

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From the guy who cried, took his toys, and went home, and said he was never coming back. That was the best post ever.

 

The only person here who hasn't logged off is moon. Maybe this will be the year!

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From the guy who cried, took his toys, and went home, and said he was never coming back. That was the best post ever.

 

Yup, and came back, apologized to MVP privately, and owned my s***. I don't spin everything I ever said and pretend like I've never been wrong. I mean, not denying what I said and owning it is literally in line with my comment, so that actually was a good post!!! thank you so much!!!

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History repeating itself here on Talksox.

 

Blame the GM for not spending money not provided.

 

Not me. I blame Cora for not making chicken salad out of chickenspit. Sure, he did OK back in 2018 when he was well-stocked with hitting and pitching. But good managers can win with anybody.

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The only person here who hasn't logged off is moon. Maybe this will be the year!

 

This is how we know that Moon and BigOldRed aren't the same person.

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This is how we know that Moon and BigOldRed aren't the same person.

 

I'd imagine that running two accounts is tiring!

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Great thread. A lot of effort put in here.

 

A topic and point that badly needed its own thread, too.

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