2024 Prospects

[moonslav59]

Some Woo Numbers:

.952 Anthony (.856 POR)

.897 Campbell (1.045 POR & .976 GRE))

.835 Sogard

.834 Meidroth

.776 E Valdez

.758 Grissom

.736 Hickey (.716 POR)

.716 Teel (.852 POR)

POR

.850 Mayer (0 PA at AAA)

.800 Romero (.817 GRE)

.706 Jh Garcia (.998 GRE & .882 SAL)

GRE

.894 B Gonzalez

.812 Castro

SAL

1.063 Jo Garcia

.746 Bleis

.710 Arias (1.055 FCL)

[moonslav59]

Anthony is feared.

Tonight, he went 1-1 with a 2B and 4BBs! (HJis OPS is now .982.)

Binelas went 3-5 w an HR (1.800 OPS in a tiny sample size.)

[Larry Cook]

Anthony was 1 for 1 with 4 walks tonight. They are pitching around a 20 year old in triple A!!!!

I hope he and Campbell start next  season in Boston!!! 
 

[moonslav59]

12 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Anthony was 1 for 1 with 4 walks tonight. They are pitching around a 20 year old in triple A!!!!

I hope he and Campbell start next  season in Boston!!! 
 

I hope so, too, but not if we make little or no effort to significantly upgrade the pitching staff.

I'd rather gain an extra year for at least one of them by holding them back a few weeks without a decent pitching staff.

While making the playoffs is a worthy goal, and I'd love to see us make it, after 3 pretty bad years, if we will not be serious contenders, I'd rather add a year 5-6 years from now. These two could be beasts in 6 years.

That being said, I'd be fine with both on the opening day roster- maybe even Mayer, too.

[Larry Cook]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

I hope so, too, but not if we make little or no effort to significantly upgrade the pitching staff.

I'd rather gain an extra year for at least one of them by holding them back a few weeks without a decent pitching staff.

While making the playoffs is a worthy goal, and I'd love to see us make it, after 3 pretty bad years, if we will not be serious contenders, I'd rather add a year 5-6 years from now. These two could be beasts in 6 years.

That being said, I'd be fine with both on the opening day roster- maybe even Mayer, too.

Mayer and teel both need more time before they are ready. The guy that is 100 percent ready is meidroth, but meidroth is never going to be a 20 home run guy. 
Anthony

campbell

meidroth

fitts 

Guerrero 

penrod

potentially 6 rookies on the roster for 2025 opening day 

[moonslav59]

To me, if Mayer is healthy, he's as ready and Meidroth, if not more so.

Anthony is "ready now." 

Campbell's only near issue is what position to play and maybe not having enough experience at that spot, but the kid is athletic enough not to embarass himself, IMO, on D.

I like Mediroth, too, and he might be fine at 2B, and passable at SS. If he could play 1B, he'd certainly pass Romy, in my book. (Wong can play 1B, so maybe Romy is out, anyway.)  DHam and Grissom are the big blocks ahead of or equal to Meidroth.

If we assume these starters: 1B Casas, 2B Campbell, SS Story and 3B Devers, we would not want Mayer on the bench, so to me it's between Campbell and Mayer to even be on the 40 and the 26. Since Meidroth does not need to  be on the 40 either, i think they choose to keep him off the 40 to start the season, but for him, it's nto so much about gaining a year of control. It would be about keeping as many viable options on the 40 for as long as possible. Since we only need two back-up infielders on the 26, I think DHam and Grissom win those jobs, and someone like Romy or Sogard might be chosen over Meidroth, as well- just for roster construction and depth purposes, and not because they offer more promise. If Meidroth is raking in ST'ing, maybe that dynamic changes, but I still doubt he passes DHam and Grissom, unless tehre is an infield injury.

I'm not sold on Penrod, yet. Fitts and Guerrero seem like they have slots on the 26, unless they do something to unearn their places.

[Larry Cook]

4 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

To me, if Mayer is healthy, he's as ready and Meidroth, if not more so.

Anthony is "ready now." 

Campbell's only near issue is what position to play and maybe not having enough experience at that spot, but the kid is athletic enough not to embarass himself, IMO, on D.

I like Mediroth, too, and he might be fine at 2B, and passable at SS. If he could play 1B, he'd certainly pass Romy, in my book. (Wong can play 1B, so maybe Romy is out, anyway.)  DHam and Grissom are the big blocks ahead of or equal to Meidroth.

If we assume these starters: 1B Casas, 2B Campbell, SS Story and 3B Devers, we would not want Mayer on the bench, so to me it's between Campbell and Mayer to even be on the 40 and the 26. Since Meidroth does not need to  be on the 40 either, i think they choose to keep him off the 40 to start the season, but for him, it's nto so much about gaining a year of control. It would be about keeping as many viable options on the 40 for as long as possible. Since we only need two back-up infielders on the 26, I think DHam and Grissom win those jobs, and someone like Romy or Sogard might be chosen over Meidroth, as well- just for roster construction and depth purposes, and not because they offer more promise. If Meidroth is raking in ST'ing, maybe that dynamic changes, but I still doubt he passes DHam and Grissom, unless tehre is an infield injury.

I'm not sold on Penrod, yet. Fitts and Guerrero seem like they have slots on the 26, unless they do something to unearn their places.

Roster construction is a huge consideration. I am very intrigued by what bres-slow does with a large group of redundant position places to help us fill huge holes in the rotation and bullpen!!
 I see second base as a battle between Campbell and Grissom. Personally , I think Campbell is better defensively. 
I guess I am higher on Meidroth than most others. I think he is best at third base. 
 

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Roster construction is a huge consideration. I am very intrigued by what bres-slow does with a large group of redundant position places to help us fill huge holes in the rotation and bullpen!!
 I see second base as a battle between Campbell and Grissom. Personally , I think Campbell is better defensively. 
I guess I am higher on Meidroth than most others. I think he is best at third base. 
 

Unless we move Devers to 1B or DH (or both,) Meidroth would just ride the bench. He can play SS and 2B, so he could be used more, but we already have pretty good back ups for SS and 2B. If he can play 1B, I see Romy falling so far down on every positional depth chart list, that he could be replaced by Meidroth, but if we are also adding Campbell and maybe even Mayer, then we are too bottlenecked to have a slot for Meidroth, unless we trade DHam and or Grissom.

There are basically 4 slots 2B, SS and back-up middle infielders (with one being able to play 3B.) Wong can back up 1B, so it comes down to this list for 4 ML roster players. If anyone of Campbell, Mayer or Meidroth is not one of the 4, they will hold off adding them to the 40, until they are needed/wanted in the bigs:

1. Story (SS or 2B)

2. Campbell (2B, maybe 3B, OF and SS in a pinch)

3. Mayer (SS, 2B? 3B? if healthy and if we want to add Campbell and him for the bigs.)

4 & 5. Grissom and DHam seem tied to me.

6. Meidroth

7. Romy (2B, SS he is better than DHam and Grissom, and 1B, where DHam and others cannot play.)

6-7 players for 4 slots. I just don't see Campbell and Mayer being both added for the opening day roster.

I'm leaning towards the starting SS being Story and 2Bman being Campbell. DHam and Grissom are the ML back-ups. Mayer, Romy & Mediroth start in AAA. (Mayer and Meidroth are not on the 40, until it's time for their MLB debut.)

To me, Anthony is the 100% lock on an opening day roster slot, or at least worthy of it, but with 5 OF'ers, we may try to get an extra year of control  by holding him back a few weeks.

[moonslav59]

Priester pitched for Woo, today. Their season ends, tomorrow.

5IP, 3H, 2ER, 1BB, 7 K (4.38 ERA)

Anthony continues to raise his AAA OPS (now 1.000) after going 2-3 w 2B and BB. He had an .856 OPS at AA. The guy gets better as he moves up!

Teel went 2-4 to raise his OPS in AAA to .714.

 

[Larry Cook]

14 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Priester pitched for Woo, today. Their season ends, tomorrow.

5IP, 3H, 2ER, 1BB, 7 K (4.38 ERA)

Anthony continues to raise his AAA OPS (now 1.000) after going 2-3 w 2B and BB. He had an .856 OPS at AA. The guy gets better as he moves up!

Teel went 2-4 to raise his OPS in AAA to .714.

 

Anthony also stole another base. Kid is on fire 

[moonslav59]

Last Day of the minor league regular season

[moonslav59]

The minor league season ended with a 7-4 loss by Woo. They were up 4-1 going into the bottom of the 9th and got the first 2 men out. Then... BB and a RE by Bobby Dee at SS, another BB, a bloop hits single, another BB and then the walk off granny by Darick Hall. 6 Unearned runs on 2 hits and 3 BBs.

Anthony went 0-3 w a BB. (ended AAA at .982.)

Bobby Dee had 3 hits and ended at .816.

Meidroth 2-4 (.837)

Woo ended up 79-71.

[Larry Cook]

Only 1 team in the playoffs this year. But I feel much better about our farm team than I did in April 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Larry Cook said:

Only 1 team in the playoffs this year. But I feel much better about our farm team than I did in April 

79-71 Woo AAA

78-60 POR AA (Won division but missed playoffs)

63-60 GRE A+

70-62 SAL A-

35-24 FCL

27-26 DSL Blue

42-14 DSL Red (WON Championship)

[Larry Cook]

Should the big 4 go to the Arizona fall league???

[Hugh2]

14 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

79-71 Woo AAA

78-60 POR AA (Won division but missed playoffs)

63-60 GRE A+

70-62 SAL A-

35-24 FCL

27-26 DSL Blue

42-14 DSL Red (WON Championship)

It's a great experience for some of these kids to get the experience of the playoff environment. 

Sure it's not the big leagues, but it's a step above what they've experienced and a great stepping stone in their development. 

Besides that, W/L record and playoffs mean little to me.  The format in milb is weird, it's not end of season W/L record put what you did in each half separetly.  Also, you can have an army of Bobby Dalbecs leading the way.  

If you had 3 future all stars on your AA roster and everyone else was a stinker and you finished with a losing record.  You have more MLB talent on that team than most MLB clubs do. 

[mvp 78]

8 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Should the big 4 go to the Arizona fall league???

Mayer, maybe. I wouldn't send the others. Sox already stated that none of them are going.

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

It's a great experience for some of these kids to get the experience of the playoff environment. 

Sure it's not the big leagues, but it's a step above what they've experienced and a great stepping stone in their development. 

Besides that, W/L record and playoffs mean little to me.  The format in milb is weird, it's not end of season W/L record put what you did in each half separetly.  Also, you can have an army of Bobby Dalbecs leading the way.  

If you had 3 future all stars on your AA roster and everyone else was a stinker and you finished with a losing record.  You have more MLB talent on that team than most MLB clubs do. 

I agree. I do think we have to be happy with the amount of prospects that impressed being more than the amount that disappointed us. We did trade away a lot of bubble prospects, which lessened our depth, but we also saw some astounding jumps by a few prospects, namely Campbell, Arias, Jh Garcia, Valera, Early and Mullins and to some extent Meidroth, Romero, Dobbins and Penrod.

I also like our draft more and more as time goes by.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Mayer, maybe. I wouldn't send the others. Sox already stated that none of them are going.

Another chance to get hurt.

No thanks.

[Hugh2]

18 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I agree. I do think we have to be happy with the amount of prospects that impressed being more than the amount that disappointed us. We did trade away a lot of bubble prospects, which lessened our depth, but we also saw some astounding jumps by a few prospects, namely Campbell, Arias, Jh Garcia, Valera, Early and Mullins and to some extent Meidroth, Romero, Dobbins and Penrod.

I also like our draft more and more as time goes by.

Portland also promoted most of their best players, if they had not they would have made the playoffs. 

The opposite happened in Wocester.  They had one of the better records in the second half, but because of their first half showing they were ineligible to make the playoffs despite having the 3rd best overall record in the International league. 

[Hugh2]

milb is just weird, the Yankees AA team made the playoffs over our AA team, but our AA team had a better record.  But they had a stellar 2nd half performance. 

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

milb is just weird, the Yankees AA team made the playoffs over our AA team, but our AA team had a better record.  But they had a stellar 2nd half performance. 

For all levels except AAA: The four playoff participants per league will be the winners of each division from both halves based on the best winning percentage of each half. In the event the same Club wins both halves, the Club with the next best winning percentage in the second half will advance.

It's having the best winning % in a specific half which gets your team into the playoffs. That's supposed to offset promotions, but makes the overall end of year record vs playoff scenarios look screwy. 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

For all levels except AAA: The four playoff participants per league will be the winners of each division from both halves based on the best winning percentage of each half. In the event the same Club wins both halves, the Club with the next best winning percentage in the second half will advance.

It's having the best winning % in a specific half which gets your team into the playoffs. That's supposed to offset promotions, but makes the overall end of year record vs playoff scenarios look screwy. 

It should be best overall record and the team with the  best one half record (1st or 2nd.)

[mvp 78]

2 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

It should be best overall record and the team with the  best one half record (1st or 2nd.)

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[moonslav59]

39 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

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[moonslav59]

A look at the April 4th Prospects Rankings and where they are now...

Graduated:

4. Rafaela, 7. Abreu, 20. Slaten, 30. DHam_______

About the same or moved up by attrition:

1. Anthony, 2. Mayer, 3. Teel, 6. Perales, 18. Jo Garcia, 21. Monegro

Big Gains:

22>3 Campbell, 25>7 Arias, 27>14 Romero, 35>19 Penrod

Big Falls:

8> 20 Wikelman, 13>30 Zanetello, 17>48 Hickey

[moonslav59]

Baseball America names Campbell Red Sox Minor League Player of the Year 

After an incredible season, Baseball America has named Kristian Campbell (pictured) their Red Sox Minor League Player of the Year. Campbell skyrocketed through the system this year, playing at a high level with three different teams. He started at Greenville, where he hit .306/.418/.558 in 40 games, then moved to Portland and hit .362/.463/.582 in 56 games, then finished off in Worcester hitting .286/.412/.486 in 19 games. For the season, he had a .997 OPS with 32 doubles, three triples, 20 home runs, and 24 stolen bases.

-soxprospects.com

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

As baseball's #1 overall prospect, Roman Anthony could be the best player in the majors someday.

But with this week's awards, Kristian Campbell is the best player in the minors this year.

[moonslav59]

4 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

As baseball's #1 overall prospect, Roman Anthony could be the best player in the majors someday.

But with this week's awards, Kristian Campbell is the best player in the minors this year.

Best "Sox" player in the minors.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

37 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Best "Sox" player in the minors.

Campbell is Baseball America's Minor League Player of the Year...