9/12 vs Yankees Game 1

[Jasonbay44]

Edited to change date after postponement Edited September 12, 2023 by Jasonbay44

[dgalehouse]

When they drew up the schedule, this looked like a crucial series. Things have changed a bit since then.

[Old Red]

When they drew up the schedule, this looked like a crucial series. Things have changed a bit since then.

 

Still crucial. One team is trying to get out of last place, and the other is trying to keep out of going into last place. How the mighty has fallen.

[moonslav59]

Postponed.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Still a lot of drama in this series: Managers hoping to stay out of last place and save their jobs; GMs hoping to get the higher draft picks and save their jobs.

[Dipre]

Still a lot of drama in this series: Managers hoping to stay out of last place and save their jobs; GMs hoping to get the higher draft picks and save their jobs.

 

Quite an astute observation.

[mvp 78]

Quite an astute observation.

 

Did you expect something more from us?

[Old Red]

Still a lot of drama in this series: Managers hoping to stay out of last place and save their jobs; GMs hoping to get the higher draft picks and save their jobs.

 

Both organizations from TOP to bottom should be more than embarrassed to be in this situation.

[Maxbialystock]

Both organizations from TOP to bottom should be more than embarrassed to be in this situation.

 

Maybe, maybe not. At the end of the movie Moneyball, we see Billy Beane fly to Boston to talk to John Henry, who compliments Billy on how little the A's paid (team payroll) for each win that season (2002), especially in comparison to how much the Yankees paid for each win. He then offers Billy a massive salary to come do the same for the Sox--which Billy declines.

 

This season we have seen not one but two AL East franchises field terrific teams--the Orioles and the Rays--with payrolls ranked 28th and 27th in MLB. Sabermetrics might have been involved, but the story line is that they have good minor league systems that produced talented young players who are not yet pricey free agents.

 

The Yankees and Sox, meanwhile, have plenty of pricey free agents who haven't delivered. The Yankees payroll is 2d highest in MLB and the Sox the 15th highest. Appropriately, the Sox have the better won-lost record.

 

In the middle of the AL East--the best division (based on won-lost records) in MLB--are the Jays with 9th highest payroll in MLB.

 

We can hope the Sox can win using the Rays/Orioles model, but they won't until they figure out how to assess and develop young pitchers.

[vegasbob]

If LeMahieu is a legitimate 6'-4", the umpire must be 6'-10". How does he call the low pitch. No worries, Sox pitchers prefer to go high in the zone

[vegasbob]

Interesting to see Fenway about 2/3rds empty for RS-NYY game in September . Odd circumstances with the day-night doubleheader , and both teams playing +- .500

[vegasbob]

Watching Pivetta in several of his starts , he can be dominant for a few innings and then seems to drop off by giving up a HR and then imploding. Would like to see him go 7 today with a shutout. Looking good in the first 2.

 

You would think he could be a #4-#5 in a good rotation if he can be consistent and efficient, only 28 pitches through 2.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

He had a good opening... and now, he - he's bulking up!

[vegasbob]

The dfefensive positioning is beyond amazing, especially on balls hit up the middle, not quite a shift but real close. Valdez hits right into it.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Meaningless September baseball is the worst

[vegasbob]

Should the Sox keep McGuire for the next 2 years until (maybe) Teel is ready to compete with Wong. Or see if someone else needs him this winter and get a pickup catcher to bridge ? Is Teel the Sox Rutschman ?

 

When reese was hitting in the early season , he looked like a strong asset even if the catching wasn't great. Wong carried the load for almost 2 months. McGuire still is OPS'ing at .716 over his last 30, so not bad for a journeyman catcher. We have seen some poor hitters there in the past decade.

[Maxbialystock]

Interesting to see Fenway about 2/3rds empty for RS-NYY game in September . Odd circumstances with the day-night doubleheader , and both teams playing +- .500

 

It is indeed, especially when this game replaces last night's game, so a whole bunch of tickets are paid for. That said, we are also seeing why night baseball was created. A day game on a work day is tricky.

[vegasbob]

Masatake pulls a pitch up and away into another chopped ground out to right side , but he did move Casas to 3rd , who then scored on a WP.

[vegasbob]

It is indeed, especially when this game replaces last night's game, so a whole bunch of tickets are paid for. That said, we are also seeing why night baseball was created. A day game on a work day is tricky.

 

Used to be a great excuse for an afternoon meeting out of the office

[vegasbob]

Forcing Boone into his BP. Great stuff, we have seen too much of this year on our side. Keep it going Pivetta ! A 2 run lead can disappear quick.

[Maxbialystock]

Forcing Boone into his BP. Great stuff, we have seen too much of this year on our side. Keep it going Pivetta ! A 2 run lead can disappear quick.

 

I think Pivetta is at his best when his sliders/sweepers break sharply and aren't in the middle of the strike zone. But today he's also throwing a hard fastball (96 mph, even 97) and keeping it away from the center of the strike zone. I don't think he has a changeup.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Maxbialystock

[Maxbialystock]

Should the Sox keep McGuire for the next 2 years until (maybe) Teel is ready to compete with Wong. Or see if someone else needs him this winter and get a pickup catcher to bridge ? Is Teel the Sox Rutschman ?

 

When reese was hitting in the early season , he looked like a strong asset even if the catching wasn't great. Wong carried the load for almost 2 months. McGuire still is OPS'ing at .716 over his last 30, so not bad for a journeyman catcher. We have seen some poor hitters there in the past decade.

 

I'd keep him. I prefer Wong but I think Cora likes the both of them. I do believe in CERA but I'm not sure Wong has the edge there.

 

I have zero CBO/GM credentials, so I won't complain if McGuire is traded.

[Maxbialystock]

Double off the green monster becomes a cinch single for the Yankees left fielder who simply waits for the good bounce and has an easy throw to 2b. Yoshida, like a bunch of Sox left fielders before him, can do the same thing. And almost none of those Sox left fielders could/can play RF the way Dugo does.

[Maxbialystock]

Looks like Pivetta wants to let the Yankees back into the game. First the HBP, then the clean single to LF off his fastball down the middle.

[vegasbob]

6th inning, 3rd time through lineup, what am I smelling out there ?

 

This inning ends down 5-2. How do they lose it so quick when Nick was almost unhittable ?

Edited September 12, 2023 by vegasbob

[vegasbob]

Should have walked Judge

[iortiz]

Cora is a f***ing Zombie in that dugout.

[iortiz]

...once the damage is done, Cora comes. Whata clown!

[Maxbialystock]

Should have walked Judge

 

Judge hit a fly to RF which the runners could not advance on.

[Maxbialystock]

Should have walked Judge

 

Judge was out with no runners advancing.