Red Sox Relief Pitching 2023

[Bellhorn04]

Crawford has been phenomenal since his first game. No way should he be sent down.

[mvp 78]

Crawford has been phenomenal since his first game. No way should he be sent down.

 

I'm just saying. It's not the move I'd do!

[Bellhorn04]

Since that first start, in 20.1 IP, Crawford has a nifty K/BB of 18/0. Honestly didn't know he was capable of being that good.

[Nick]

Since that first start, in 20.1 IP, Crawford has a nifty K/BB of 18/0. Honestly didn't know he was capable of being that good.

 

And just 3 ER given up.

 

Maybe he should be starting instead of Pivetta.

 

Anyone here get excited when it's Pivetta's turn to pitch?

[Bellhorn04]

And just 3 ER given up.

 

Maybe he should be starting instead of Pivetta.

 

Anyone here get excited when it's Pivetta's turn to pitch?

 

If we are .500 in Pivetta's starts, that's a good thing. His record with the Sox is indeed 22-22.

[mvp 78]

And just 3 ER given up.

 

Maybe he should be starting instead of Pivetta.

 

Anyone here get excited when it's Pivetta's turn to pitch?

 

He's just supposed to be competent. He's a high floor, low ceiling guy. The bigger issue will be if Paxton shows up and just takes a dump on the mound. Pivetta has the second best Starter's ERA for BOS. Hard to just bounce him.

[mvp 78]

If we are .500 in Pivetta's starts, that's a good thing. His record with the Sox is indeed 22-22.

 

The greatest 5th starter who ever lived.

[Old Red]

And just 3 ER given up.

 

Maybe he should be starting instead of Pivetta.

 

Anyone here get excited when it's Pivetta's turn to pitch?

 

The Kut Man had a good stretch last year too in the rotation, but i wouldn’t make any change right now, and leave him in the pen.

[Old Red]

He's just supposed to be competent. He's a high floor, low ceiling guy. The bigger issue will be if Paxton shows up and just takes a dump on the mound. Pivetta has the second best Starter's ERA for BOS. Hard to just bounce him.

 

Plus Pivetta is the most reliable to show up for every turn.

[mvp 78]

Plus Pivetta is the most reliable to show up for every turn.

 

Here's his massive injury history:

2014: 7 Day DL (A-)

2016: 7 Day DL (AA)

2021: 10 Day IL May, 10 Day IL Sept (still started 30 games and appeared in 31)

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

If we are .500 in Pivetta's starts, that's a good thing. His record with the Sox is indeed 22-22.

 

Doesn't that make him the ace of this rotation? Like the medium... but not the kind that talks to ghosts (though if he has a connection, then wake up the damn Bambino; we can use another lefty)... or maybe the median, a safety guide rail between lanes going in opposite directions.

[notin]

Maybe, but to send the Kut Man down just, because he has options, and keeping Bra Man would not be a way to go for me.

 

It’s unfortunate, but that kind of thing happens all the time. They’re not going to DFA Brasier unless they need a 40 man roster spot, which they do not need in order to activate either Rodriguez or Paxton…

[Maxbialystock]

The really neat thing about a MLB season is all those freaking games broken into series, home and away. Cleveland, 2d in the AL Central, just left--

 

--and in comes the semi-juggernaut, the great Toronto Blue Jays for four big ones.

 

And Cora will be sending out Kluber, Houck, Pivetta, and Bello. Backing them up will be two pretty good long relievers, Winckowski and Crawford, and six others, including closer Jansen, for spot duty. My hope is that Cora won't commit Winckowski or Crawford to a game the Sox are unlikely to win.

 

With Paxton due back soon and Whitlock out for maybe 2 weeks, right now the pitching staff seems brimming with health compared to the lineup players, among whom Duvall, Story, and Chang (who was impressive at SS) are all out for longish periods.

 

But I like the Sox in this Jays series at the Fens.

[mvp 78]

The really neat thing about a MLB season is all those freaking games broken into series, home and away. Cleveland, 2d in the AL Central, just left--

 

--and in comes the semi-juggernaut, the great Toronto Blue Jays for four big ones.

 

And Cora will be sending out Kluber, Houck, Pivetta, and Bello. Backing them up will be two pretty good long relievers, Winckowski and Crawford, and six others, including closer Jansen, for spot duty. My hope is that Cora won't commit Winckowski or Crawford to a game the Sox are unlikely to win.

 

With Paxton due back soon and Whitlock out for maybe 2 weeks, right now the pitching staff seems brimming with health compared to the lineup players, among whom Duvall, Story, and Chang (who was impressive at SS) are all out for longish periods.

 

But I like the Sox in this Jays series at the Fens.

 

Sox sweep and they'll be in 3rd place on Thursday night.

[moonslav59]

And just 3 ER given up.

 

Maybe he should be starting instead of Pivetta.

 

Anyone here get excited when it's Pivetta's turn to pitch?

 

I always feel like we have a good chance to win, when Pivetta starts.

 

I feel better with him starting than Kluber.

[moonslav59]

The really neat thing about a MLB season is all those freaking games broken into series, home and away. Cleveland, 2d in the AL Central, just left--

 

--and in comes the semi-juggernaut, the great Toronto Blue Jays for four big ones.

 

And Cora will be sending out Kluber, Houck, Pivetta, and Bello. Backing them up will be two pretty good long relievers, Winckowski and Crawford, and six others, including closer Jansen, for spot duty. My hope is that Cora won't commit Winckowski or Crawford to a game the Sox are unlikely to win.

 

With Paxton due back soon and Whitlock out for maybe 2 weeks, right now the pitching staff seems brimming with health compared to the lineup players, among whom Duvall, Story, and Chang (who was impressive at SS) are all out for longish periods.

 

But I like the Sox in this Jays series at the Fens.

 

I do, too.

 

BTW, Mondesi is out, too. That makes 3 middle IF'er out, at the same time.

[moonslav59]

It’s unfortunate, but that kind of thing happens all the time. They’re not going to DFA Brasier unless they need a 40 man roster spot, which they do not need in order to activate either Rodriguez or Paxton…

 

Maybe when Story returns?

[notin]

Maybe when Story returns?

 

At that point, they might DFA Tapia…

[moonslav59]

At that point, they might DFA Tapia…

 

Hey, leave us a sliver of hope.

[Jasonbay44]

I always feel like we have a good chance to win, when Pivetta starts.

 

I feel better with him starting than Kluber.

I think I’d feel more confident with a random fan starting than Kluber

[Old Red]

I think I’d feel more confident with a random fan starting than Kluber

 

Kluber wasn’t sharp yesterday, but gutted out 5+ innings.

[moonslav59]

Kluber wasn’t sharp yesterday, but gutted out 5+ innings.

 

That he did. My confidence level did not move off from a very low point, but at least it didn't move down a notch.

[mvp 78]

Too many walks. If he can't get that fixed, he's toast.

[Bellhorn04]

Bernardino's straight numbers look pretty good so far...are there advanced ones that say otherwise?

[moonslav59]

Bernardino's straight numbers look pretty good so far...are there advanced ones that say otherwise?

 

Tiny sample size, but....

 

.545 OPS Against, despite a .353 BAbip.

 

22 PAs against

0 BB

5 Ks

 

1.63 FIP

 

1.059 WHIP

 

MVP can give you the "real" advanced stuff.

 

He got lit up in 6 IP with SEA's AAA team, earlier, this year.

 

Edited May 2, 2023 by moonslav59

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Too many walks. If he can't get that fixed, he's toast.

 

I doubt the walks are because he's wild, but from just missing the black. He's smart enough to know the velo is gone, and the toast will be burnt sooner if he doesn't paint.

 

In other words, there may not be another game you want Kluber to pitch against a good offense.

[mvp 78]

92.7 EV

111.1 Max EV

410 xSLG

406 xWOBACON

4.14 xERA

0% Weak Contact

 

This is Ort/Brasier with better luck.

[mvp 78]

I doubt the walks are because he's wild, but from just missing the black. He's smart enough to know the velo is gone, and the toast will be burnt sooner if he doesn't paint.

 

In other words, there may not be another game you want Kluber to pitch against a good offense.

 

He can't be a 3 k/9 guy. He's got to be back around 1.5, which is close to what he was last year. He was effective last year with meager velo and walking guys is never a good thing.

[moonslav59]

He can't be a 3 k/9 guy. He's got to be back around 1.5, which is close to what he was last year. He was effective last year with meager velo and walking guys is never a good thing.

 

You mean 3BB/9 to 1.5?

[mvp 78]

You mean 3BB/9 to 1.5?

 

Yes, sorry.