A Realistic View of 2023: Part II

[Hugh2]

I think you would have to know the women who coined it, and how she explained it. It’s just as simple as the women of the view think they are all right, and the men on talksox think they are all right. There really wasn’t any more to it than that. Nothing sinister.

 

Again, you added the word sinister, I was very specific to say it was neither good nor bad. Let's call a spade a spade here. There are a million other references you could have used, the fact that you didn't mean it in an emasculating way doesn't mean it is not. I will say this, after your last post I would believe that you did not mean it to be such. But it is, and it's something I've come to waken up on in society lately, and I'm merely pointing out that I refuse to do that to other men.....I hope others follow me.

[mvp 78]

It can both be done at the same time, and that's Blooms plan. He just did a piss poor job of executing it. Luckily, they didn't screw up the farm half of the plan and the future is still bright. But we get it....losing sucks. That we all agree on.

 

He lost Noah Song for a few months. What a wholesale embarrassment for the team!

 

I think keeping Ort over Ward was dumb.

[Old Red]

Again, you added the word sinister, I was very specific to say it was neither good nor bad. Let's call a spade a spade here. There are a million other references you could have used, the fact that you didn't mean it in an emasculating way doesn't mean it is not. I will say this, after your last post I would believe that you did not mean it to be such. But it is, and it's something I've come to waken up on in society lately, and I'm merely pointing out that I refuse to do that to other men.....I hope others follow me.

 

I’ll strive to do better.

[Hugh2]

I’ll strive to do better.

 

As will I.

[Old Red]

As will I.

 

Deal.

[moonslav59]

It might be getting close to the time to start the 2024 thread.

 

[moonslav59]

The team OPS leader race has tightened. Who will be the top dog at the end of the season?

 

.848 Duran (less PAs, so easier to jump with one big game)

.846 Devers

.839 Yoshida

.836 Casas

.826 Turner

.816 Duvall (less PAs than others)

.780 Reyes (less PAs)

.778 Dugo

 

 

[notin]

It might be getting close to the time to start the 2024 thread.

 

 

No white flag here…

[moonslav59]

No white flag here…

 

There has already been a threads' worth of banter about 2024, but yes, it does seem like starting one would be looking like waiving the flag.

 

[moonslav59]

Rays lost to Cards

O's lost to Astros

Rangers lost to A's

 

Yanks losing to ChiSox 9-2 in 8th

Mariners tied wit Padres in 4th.

 

If the Yanks lose...

 

WC Race

TBR +4.0

HOU +1.5

TOR ---

 

SEA -2.5 (pending results of their game)

BOS -5.0

NYY -5.5

LAA -7.5

[moonslav59]

The real fun begins after these next 7 games, but it would sure help, if we could go on a tear and win 6 of 7 of the next 7:

 

8/10 KCR (pen)

8/11 DET (Sale)

8/12 DET (Bello)

8/13 DET (Crawford)

OFF

8/15@WSH (Pivetta)

8/16@WSH (Sale)

8/17@WSH (Bello)

 

TOR's next 7:

@CLE 1

CHC 3

PHI 2

 

NYY's next 7:

@CWS 1

@MIA 3

@ATL 3

 

HOU's:

@BAL 1

LAA 3

@MIA 3

 

SEA

SDP 1

BAL 3

@KCR 4

 

[moonslav59]

Best Records v Winning Teams:

 

40-25 ATL

44-34 BAL

34-27 SFG

33-28 TEX

38-33 BOS

40-35 TBR

31-30 LAD

36-35 PHI

(All others have losing records)

 

The Sox are 20-22 v losing teams- 5th worst in MLB.

 

Weird season.

[mvp 78]

Best Records v Winning Teams:

 

40-25 ATL

44-34 BAL

34-27 SFG

33-28 TEX

38-33 BOS

40-35 TBR

31-30 LAD

36-35 PHI

(All others have losing records)

 

The Sox are 20-22 v losing teams- 5th worst in MLB.

 

Weird season.

 

.500 teams have weird seasons.

[notin]

.500 teams have weird seasons.

 

Sox are on a pace to go 84-78…

[mvp 78]

Sox are on a pace to go 84-78…

 

Yesterday it was 83-79. With the stretch they have in AUG/SEP, .500 shouldn't be brushed off.

[notin]

Yesterday it was 83-79. With the stretch they have in AUG/SEP, .500 shouldn't be brushed off.

 

84-78 isn’t that much over.500. Just like last years 78-84 wasn’t that much under it…

[Duran Is The Man]

Best Records v Winning Teams:

 

40-25 ATL

44-34 BAL

34-27 SFG

33-28 TEX

38-33 BOS

40-35 TBR

31-30 LAD

36-35 PHI

(All others have losing records)

 

The Sox are 20-22 v losing teams- 5th worst in MLB.

 

Weird season.

 

and all but the Sox currently in playoff positions.

[moonslav59]

Yesterday it was 83-79. With the stretch they have in AUG/SEP, .500 shouldn't be brushed off.

 

Nor sub .500 or .550.

[mvp 78]

Nor sub .500 or .550.

 

This is a team that could get ice cold, go on a run, or stay around where they are.

[notin]

This is a team that could get ice cold, go on a run, or stay around where they are.

 

I think that statement applies to every team ever…

[mvp 78]

I think that statement applies to every team ever…

 

I think this team specifically because they have multiple players coming back that could either improve this team's performance before this tough stretch OR this team could continue to turtle.

[moonslav59]

I think this team specifically because they have multiple players coming back that could either improve this team's performance before this tough stretch OR this team could continue to turtle.

 

The returning players may struggle for a while, too.

[mvp 78]

The returning players may struggle for a while, too.

 

They musn't! They are the trade deadline acquisitions!

[Bellhorn04]

This is a team that could get ice cold, go on a run, or stay around where they are.

 

It definitely promises to stay weird.

[moonslav59]

They musn't! They are the trade deadline acquisitions!

 

Story had a great first game.

 

Schreiber has looked like the 2022 Schreiber, since his return.

[mvp 78]

It definitely promises to stay weird.

 

As long as it's not boring.

[Maxbialystock]

As long as it's not boring.

 

This year's Sox are as boring as a roller coaster. Forget the hot and cold runs, I'm talking about individual games--like last night when the Sox come from behind and then Jansen gives up the dinger to get the margin down to 1 run before McGuire (with his presumed weak arm and slow release) nails the attempted theft of 2b.

 

I think Sale, Whitlock and Houck will definitely help the pitching.

 

But I'm nervous about the hitting. Duvall came back cold, and Story even colder (just 2 games, but also 6 K's). Dugo up and down, Devers the same. Duran red hot in July and ice cold so far in August. Turner hurt--and a big hole in the lineup.

 

After the terrific 5 game winning streak in late July (22-28), the Sox have scored 2, 3, 2, 6, 3, 3, 4, 1, 6, 3, and 4 runs. That's 37 runs in 11 games, 3.36 runs per game. About a month ago I looked at game scores vs wins and determined the Sox basically needed to score 5 runs to have good chance of winning a game. They won 3 of those 11 most recent games when they scored 6, 6, and 4 runs.

[Bellhorn04]

This year's Sox are as boring as a roller coaster. Forget the hot and cold runs, I'm talking about individual games--like last night when the Sox come from behind and then Jansen gives up the dinger to get the margin down to 1 run before McGuire (with his presumed weak arm and slow release) nails the attempted theft of 2b.

 

I think Sale, Whitlock and Houck will definitely help the pitching.

 

But I'm nervous about the hitting. Duvall came back cold, and Story even colder (just 2 games, but also 6 K's). Dugo up and down, Devers the same. Duran red hot in July and ice cold so far in August. Turner hurt--and a big hole in the lineup.

 

After the terrific 5 game winning streak in late July (22-28), the Sox have scored 2, 3, 2, 6, 3, 3, 4, 1, 6, 3, and 4 runs. That's 37 runs in 11 games, 3.36 runs per game. About a month ago I looked at game scores vs wins and determined the Sox basically needed to score 5 runs to have good chance of winning a game. They won 3 of those 11 most recent games when they scored 6, 6, and 4 runs.

 

The bats will bust out again when least expected.

[moonslav59]

This year's Sox are as boring as a roller coaster. Forget the hot and cold runs, I'm talking about individual games--like last night when the Sox come from behind and then Jansen gives up the dinger to get the margin down to 1 run before McGuire (with his presumed weak arm and slow release) nails the attempted theft of 2b.

 

I think Sale, Whitlock and Houck will definitely help the pitching.

 

But I'm nervous about the hitting. Duvall came back cold, and Story even colder (just 2 games, but also 6 K's). Dugo up and down, Devers the same. Duran red hot in July and ice cold so far in August. Turner hurt--and a big hole in the lineup.

 

After the terrific 5 game winning streak in late July (22-28), the Sox have scored 2, 3, 2, 6, 3, 3, 4, 1, 6, 3, and 4 runs. That's 37 runs in 11 games, 3.36 runs per game. About a month ago I looked at game scores vs wins and determined the Sox basically needed to score 5 runs to have good chance of winning a game. They won 3 of those 11 most recent games when they scored 6, 6, and 4 runs.

 

I think the hitting will be fine. Not having Turner for a couple nights hurt.

 

I think Story and Duvall will find their stride- hopefully sooner rather than later.

 

Not many teams have 8 hitters over .778.

 

.849 Duran

.847 Devers

.839 Yoshida

.826 Turner

.817 Duvall

.779 Reyes

.778 Verdugo

 

Refsnyder is at .728 but .907 v LHPS.

 

[Maxbialystock]

I think the hitting will be fine. Not having Turner for a couple nights hurt.

 

I think Story and Duvall will find their stride- hopefully sooner rather than later.

 

Not many teams have 8 hitters over .778.

 

.849 Duran

.847 Devers

.839 Yoshida

.826 Turner

.817 Duvall

.779 Reyes

.778 Verdugo

 

Refsnyder is at .728 but .907 v LHPS.

 

 

Love that "not many teams have 8 hitters over .778 OPS."

 

Unfortunately, however, OPS don't bring home the bacon. Right now the Sox are 9th in MLB in runs scored. Historically--feel free to go as far back as you want to--they need to be 5th or better in runs scored to have any hope of making the postseason.