Red Sox Spring Training 2023

[moonslav59]

Who are the Sox that are actually injured as we speak?

 

Story

Mondesi

 

As far as we know, these guys are currently "good to go," right?

 

Sale

Paxton

Whitlock

Houck

Casas

 

[harmony]

Kenley Jansen reportedly is off to a slow start at Spring Training:

 

[mvp 78]

Kenley Jansen reportedly is off to a slow start at Spring Training:

 

 

Today was the first day of pitchers and catchers and he's not going to the WBC now, so I'm not really worried.

[notin]

Today was the first day of pitchers and catchers and he's not going to the WBC now, so I'm not really worried.

 

A slow start how? Has he already blown 3 saves?

[mvp 78]

A slow start how? Has he already blown 3 saves?

 

I didn’t say slow start.

[mvp 78]

This is what McCaffrey’s tweet says:

 

Jansen is slightly behind because and his family were sick this winter and he need to stop workouts. He won't go to WBC and wants to stay in Sox camp to work on pitch clock and getting to know the team

[mvp 78]

Cora had a meeting with Dalbec, who arrived early to camp. Dalbec will play a lot of third with Devers at WBC and will also see time at first and shortstop

[notin]

I didn’t say slow start.

 

Apparently I quoted the wrong post. Harmony did say this exact words…

Edited February 15, 2023 by notin

[notin]

Cora had a meeting with Dalbec, who arrived early to camp. Dalbec will play a lot of third with Devers at WBC and will also see time at first and shortstop

 

And to think how many shot me down when I said that EXACT SITUATION was a possibility.

 

And if that happens, it absolutely increases Dalbec’s likelihood for an opening day roster spot over Goodrum.

 

I’m requesting some Smug Time…

[notin]

This is what McCaffrey’s tweet says:

 

Jansen is slightly behind because and his family were sick this winter and he need to stop workouts. He won't go to WBC and wants to stay in Sox camp to work on pitch clock and getting to know the team

 

 

I’m ok with that…

[Bellhorn04]

And to think how many shot me down when I said that EXACT SITUATION was a possibility.

 

Can't help it if you resemble a spy balloon.

[notin]

Can't help it if you resemble a spy balloon.

 

If my request for Smug Time gets approved…

[sk7326]

Who are the Sox that are actually injured as we speak?

 

Story

Mondesi

 

As far as we know, these guys are currently "good to go," right?

 

Sale

Paxton

Whitlock

Houck

Casas

 

 

I think Sale just broke his nose during pitcher fielding practice.

[moonslav59]

I think Sale just broke his nose during pitcher fielding practice.

 

You better be joking.

[moonslav59]

And to think how many shot me down when I said that EXACT SITUATION was a possibility.

 

And if that happens, it absolutely increases Dalbec’s likelihood for an opening day roster spot over Goodrum.

 

I’m requesting some Smug Time…

 

Cora has said a lot of things that just do not happen.

 

Just before the Barnes DFA, he said he was their 8th inning, high leverage guy.

[notin]

Cora has said a lot of things that just do not happen.

 

Just before the Barnes DFA, he said he was their 8th inning, high leverage guy.

 

 

But this is just about practice, which, unlike DFAs, is something Cora controls…

[moonslav59]

But this is just about practice, which, unlike DFAs, is something Cora controls…

 

So, you were talking about practice, too?

[sk7326]

You better be joking.

 

I am ... for now ...

[moonslav59]

I am ... for now ...

 

He can still pitch with a busted nose, anyway.

[a700hitter]

Cora had a meeting with Dalbec, who arrived early to camp. Dalbec will play a lot of third with Devers at WBC and will also see time at first and shortstop

Maybe Cora told Dalbec that he will try to rig up an electronic system t relay the pitch signs to him.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Maybe Cora told Dalbec that he will try to rig up an electronic system t relay the pitch signs to him.

 

The horrors! Still choose to ignore documentation where Houston's analytics department admits devising their systems before Cora was even hired. All the Astros' stars were stars before or are still stars since 2017. The fringe players who had career years were guys like Marwin and Reddick.

 

Now a Globe columnist marvels at how Red Sox' batters all guessed right in the '18 World Series. The champs hit .222 in the '18 WS. Bogaerts batted .136, Mookie .217. JD was already a star when he signed (he had a 4-homer game in '17). Pearce raked the last two games in LA, but was also good enough that year to hit three HRs in one game vs. the Yankees.

 

Boston had some big pinch hits, but not coincidentally every one came with runners on base. I have personally witnessed baserunners in a teenage game hold up one or two fingers to batters, point to the left or the right, tap their knees and make fists. Oh, the blasphemy of it all...

[Bellhorn04]

The horrors! Still choose to ignore documentation where Houston's analytics department admits devising their systems before Cora was even hired. All the Astros' stars were stars before or are still stars since 2017. The fringe players who had career years were guys like Marwin and Reddick.

 

Now a Globe columnist marvels at how Red Sox' batters all guessed right in the '18 World Series. The champs hit .222 in the '18 WS. Bogaerts batted .136, Mookie .217. JD was already a star when he signed (he had a 4-homer game in '17). Pearce raked the last two games in LA, but was also good enough that year to hit three HRs in one game vs. the Yankees.

 

Boston had some big pinch hits, but not coincidentally every one came with runners on base. I have personally witnessed baserunners in a teenage game hold up one or two fingers to batters, point to the left or the right, tap their knees and make fists. Oh, the blasphemy of it all...

 

From Shaughnessy:

 

As one who covers the Red Sox fairly regularly, the part of the book that interested me most was a detail of amazing success Red Sox batters had against the mighty Dodgers in the 2018 World Series (won by the Sox in five games). It’s a passage on Page 277 that comes after multiple chapters detailing cheating by the Astros, Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, and just about everybody else in baseball in 2017-18.

 

From Page 277:

 

“Through 2022, no team has ever produced a better batting average with runners in scoring position and two outs in the World Series than the 2018 Red Sox, at .471. No team had ever had a higher on-base percentage in that scenario, either, than their .609. Only one team had recorded a higher slugging percentage than their .882.”

 

In other words, of all World Series teams since 1903 — 236 pennant winners — the 2018 Red Sox were the best at guessing what pitch was coming.

Note that the sample was confined to RISP and two outs. For sign-stealing purposes, why would it matter whether it was two outs or not?

 

Plus it was five whole games...

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

From Shaughnessy:

 

As one who covers the Red Sox fairly regularly, the part of the book that interested me most was a detail of amazing success Red Sox batters had against the mighty Dodgers in the 2018 World Series (won by the Sox in five games). It’s a passage on Page 277 that comes after multiple chapters detailing cheating by the Astros, Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, and just about everybody else in baseball in 2017-18.

 

From Page 277:

 

“Through 2022, no team has ever produced a better batting average with runners in scoring position and two outs in the World Series than the 2018 Red Sox, at .471. No team had ever had a higher on-base percentage in that scenario, either, than their .609. Only one team had recorded a higher slugging percentage than their .882.”

 

In other words, of all World Series teams since 1903 — 236 pennant winners — the 2018 Red Sox were the best at guessing what pitch was coming.

Note that the sample was confined to RISP and two outs. For sign-stealing purposes, why would it matter whether it was two outs or not?

 

Plus it was five whole games...

 

I know, talk about berry-picking. So strange that none of the batters I ever played with or coached for half a century never ever wanted to get a hit, unless facing the final out of an inning with ducks on the pond.

[moonslav59]

From Shaughnessy:

 

As one who covers the Red Sox fairly regularly, the part of the book that interested me most was a detail of amazing success Red Sox batters had against the mighty Dodgers in the 2018 World Series (won by the Sox in five games). It’s a passage on Page 277 that comes after multiple chapters detailing cheating by the Astros, Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, and just about everybody else in baseball in 2017-18.

 

From Page 277:

 

“Through 2022, no team has ever produced a better batting average with runners in scoring position and two outs in the World Series than the 2018 Red Sox, at .471. No team had ever had a higher on-base percentage in that scenario, either, than their .609. Only one team had recorded a higher slugging percentage than their .882.”

 

In other words, of all World Series teams since 1903 — 236 pennant winners — the 2018 Red Sox were the best at guessing what pitch was coming.

Note that the sample was confined to RISP and two outs. For sign-stealing purposes, why would it matter whether it was two outs or not?

 

Plus it was five whole games...

 

Shaughnessy is one reason I don't pay to read the Globe.

 

Also, name one team that does not steal signs with a runner on 2B.

[mvp 78]

Cora has said a lot of things that just do not happen.

 

Just before the Barnes DFA, he said he was their 8th inning, high leverage guy.

 

No, he didn't.

[moonslav59]

No, he didn't.

 

I could have sworn he said something like this. Maybe it was Bloom.

[notin]

So, you were talking about practice, too?

 

Cora was saying he would have Dalbec workout at SS. The assumption is it positions him to play there if needed.

 

Like I said before, Dalbec is already on the 40 man. They could add Goodrum once Story hits the 60 day, but that limits the ability to use that spot for anyone else. The Sox have other needs they probably worry about as much or more than backup SS, such as starting catcher, and replacing any pitchers who get injured in ST. And Cora has been reportedly using Dalbec in other positions for a while, including not only SS but also 2b and OF. In fact, there was some needless panic on this board when a story discussed that last season.

 

Whether we like their defensive abilities and limitations or not, both Dalbec and Duran still hold 40 man roster spots and have been bypassed for DFA multiple times. This does keep both in the picture for reserve roles either to start the season or as injuries occur. At least for now…

[notin]

Shaughnessy is one reason I don't pay to read the Globe.

 

Also, name one team that does not steal signs with a runner on 2B.

 

Stealing signs is perfectly legal. It’s the use of electronic equipment that’s not. A non-electronic runner on second flashing signs to the 3b coach is not a problem…

[notin]

From Shaughnessy:

 

As one who covers the Red Sox fairly regularly, the part of the book that interested me most was a detail of amazing success Red Sox batters had against the mighty Dodgers in the 2018 World Series (won by the Sox in five games). It’s a passage on Page 277 that comes after multiple chapters detailing cheating by the Astros, Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, and just about everybody else in baseball in 2017-18.

 

From Page 277:

 

“Through 2022, no team has ever produced a better batting average with runners in scoring position and two outs in the World Series than the 2018 Red Sox, at .471. No team had ever had a higher on-base percentage in that scenario, either, than their .609. Only one team had recorded a higher slugging percentage than their .882.”

 

In other words, of all World Series teams since 1903 — 236 pennant winners — the 2018 Red Sox were the best at guessing what pitch was coming.

Note that the sample was confined to RISP and two outs. For sign-stealing purposes, why would it matter whether it was two outs or not?

 

Plus it was five whole games...

 

I wonder, without sloughing through the box scores, how many plate appearances are we talking about that qualify as 2 outs with RISP in a 5 game stretch. 10? 15? 20?

 

And why did they only steal signs with 2 outs?

[dgalehouse]

Others would cheat. But not our boys. They would never do that.