2023 Prospects

[moonslav59]

The full list of Rule 5 eligible players in the Sox system. I bolded the some of the more well known players and put in red the ones I think we will protect:

 

Eddy Alvarez

Rivaldo Avila

Angel Bastardo

Brock Bell

Royman Blanco

Brainer Bonaci

Cam Booser

Zach Bryant

Maceo Campbell

Allan Castro

Brendan Cellucci

Felix Cepeda

Juan Chacon

Casey Cobb

Nathanael Cruz

Luis De La Rosa

Allison Del Orbe

Nick Decker

Kelvin Diaz

Jordan DiValerio

Shane Drohan

Juan Daniel Encarnación

Alex Erro

Albert Feliz

Ryan Fernandez

Ryan Fitzgerald

Grant Gambrell

Jhostynxon Garcia

Franklin German

Wikelman Gonzalez

Bryan Gonzalez

Justin Hagenman

Alexis Hernandez

Gabriel Jackson

Lyonell James

Gilberto Jimenez

Christian Koss

Robert Kwiatkowski

Chih-Jung Liu

Eduardo Lopez

Matthew Lugo

Elih Marrero

Yorberto Mejicano

Ryan Miller

Andrés Núñez

Yusniel Padron-Artiles

Eddinson Paulino

Zach Penrod

Luis Perales

Railin Perez

AJ Politi

Jose Ramirez

Oscar Rangel

Jorge Rodriguez

Ronald Rosario

Cesar Ruiz

Johnfrank Salazar

Victor Santos

Stephen Scott (Borderline)

Cody Scroggins

Reidis Sena

Chase Shugart

Karson Simas

Nick Sogard

Noah Song

Dylan Spacke

Luis Talavera

Nate Tellier

Michael Valera

Brian Van Belle

Diego Viloria

Jeremy Wu-Yelland

Ryan Zeferjahn

[moonslav59]

The highest ranked prospects that are Rule 5 eligible, according to the last soxprospects.com's ranking:

 

7. Perales- yes

8. Wikelman- yes

11. Bonaci- hell no

13. Drohan- yes

17. Castro- most likely no

20. Paulino- I'd say very likely a no.

31. Ryan Fernandez- no, but may be selected by some team

35. Scott- Borderline, but I'm guessing yes.

38. Gambrell- I'm saying yes. (I thin Soxprospects will jump him higher in their next rankings.)

45. Lugo- no

49. Penrod- borderline, but I'm guessing no.

50. Brock bell- no

52. Sogard- no

53. Zeferjajn- no

54. Cepeda- no

60. Song- no

 

 

 

[Larry Cook]

I think someone will take drohan in the rule 5 draft

[moonslav59]

I think someone will take drohan in the rule 5 draft

 

I'm not so sure. He sucked in AAA and has to stay on the ML roster, all year.

 

[mvp 78]

I think someone will take drohan in the rule 5 draft

 

Hard to say. Ward was taken last year #1, but had a much longer history of success than Drohan. Drohan really only had 6 good AA starts before being promoted to AAA and sucking. I think he's 50/50 to be taken, but won't go top 5.

[mvp 78]

I'm not so sure. He sucked in AAA and has to stay on the ML roster, all year.

 

 

The staying on the ML roster isn't a big deal as they can just return him if he sucks. It just depends on which org has room for him. If I was OAK, I'd take like 4 Rule 5 guys since they aren't planning on competing anyway.

[moonslav59]

The staying on the ML roster isn't a big deal as they can just return him if he sucks. It just depends on which org has room for him. If I was OAK, I'd take like 4 Rule 5 guys since they aren't planning on competing anyway.

 

Yes, of course, and the 26 man roster on many bad teams have room to park a guy.

 

I think there are several better choices out there than Drohan.

[mvp 78]

A's have about 5 guys on their 40 man that could be droppable for a guy like Drohan IMO.

[moonslav59]

A's have about 5 guys on their 40 man that could be droppable for a guy like Drohan IMO.

 

It's about the 26, too, although with the A's, not so much.

 

BTW, I thought we had 4-6 guys I'd drop to keep Drohan on the 40- NOT the 26!

[mvp 78]

It's about the 26, too, although with the A's, not so much.

 

BTW, I thought we had 4-6 guys I'd drop to keep Drohan on the 40- NOT the 26!

 

I would have kept Drohan too? IDK. They have much more info on him than we do.

[moonslav59]

I would have kept Drohan too? IDK. They have much more info on him than we do.

 

I'm not worried about losing Drohan. I had higher hopes for Ward and Song, and I wasn't too choked up losing them, either.

 

Let's see, if there is one GM who likes Drohan that much.

[mvp 78]

I'm not worried about losing Drohan. I had higher hopes for Ward and Song, and I wasn't too choked up losing them, either.

 

Let's see, if there is one GM who likes Drohan that much.

 

It's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but it just seems like a poor use of the 40 man roster.

[moonslav59]

It's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but it just seems like a poor use of the 40 man roster.

 

If we end up adding 6-8 new players to the 40, the difference between drohan and the bottomg of the 40 man roster guy should be negligible.

[mvp 78]

If we end up adding 6-8 new players to the 40, the difference between drohan and the bottomg of the 40 man roster guy should be negligible.

 

If they add 6-8 GOOD players.

[moonslav59]

If they add 6-8 GOOD players.

 

You don't have to be all that good to be a better bet than Drohan, but if some of those 6-8 are minor league signings, like an Alfaro type, then yes...

[mvp 78]

FanGraphs on the 40 man moves:

 

More interesting than what Boston did Tuesday is what they didn’t do. They arguably had the biggest roster crunch in baseball, with nearly a dozen potential additions and eight or so current 40-man occupants who I’d consider on the roster bubble. Young righties Luis Perales (whose fastball has monstrous vertical carry) and Wikelman Gonzalez (plus secondary stuff) are both young and raw enough to expect they’ll spend their first year on the 40-man entirely in the minors. Prospects Grant Gambrell, Ryan Fernandez, Angel Bastardo, Chih-Jung Liu, Shane Drohan, Juan Daniel Encarnacion, Eddinson Paulino, and Allan Castro all had interesting cases to be added versus not. The relief-only guys (Gambrell, Fernandez) are lower-impact types who were probably safe to leave unprotected, Drohan’s rough second half hurt his chances of being rostered, and most of the rest of the candidates are extremely young and unlikely to stick on someone else’s active roster next spring. Especially as more and more teams tend to err on the side of not adding players this time of year, more and more players fill the potential Rule 5 Draft pool and the chance any one of your team’s guys gets popped in the draft drops through the sheer volume of alternatives. Liu (sitting 95 mph with a plus breaking ball and average split as a starter) could be vulnerable in the Rule 5, especially if teams think his stuff will tick up in relief.

[mvp 78]

Another Zack Penrod story:

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/boston-red-sox-zach-penrod-continues-ascension-in-arizona-fall-league?t=arizona-fall-league-coverage

[notin]

FanGraphs on the 40 man moves:

 

More interesting than what Boston did Tuesday is what they didn’t do. They arguably had the biggest roster crunch in baseball, with nearly a dozen potential additions and eight or so current 40-man occupants who I’d consider on the roster bubble. Young righties Luis Perales (whose fastball has monstrous vertical carry) and Wikelman Gonzalez (plus secondary stuff) are both young and raw enough to expect they’ll spend their first year on the 40-man entirely in the minors. Prospects Grant Gambrell, Ryan Fernandez, Angel Bastardo, Chih-Jung Liu, Shane Drohan, Juan Daniel Encarnacion, Eddinson Paulino, and Allan Castro all had interesting cases to be added versus not. The relief-only guys (Gambrell, Fernandez) are lower-impact types who were probably safe to leave unprotected, Drohan’s rough second half hurt his chances of being rostered, and most of the rest of the candidates are extremely young and unlikely to stick on someone else’s active roster next spring. Especially as more and more teams tend to err on the side of not adding players this time of year, more and more players fill the potential Rule 5 Draft pool and the chance any one of your team’s guys gets popped in the draft drops through the sheer volume of alternatives. Liu (sitting 95 mph with a plus breaking ball and average split as a starter) could be vulnerable in the Rule 5, especially if teams think his stuff will tick up in relief.

 

I’m going to predict Ryan Fernandez gets selected. And if my Rule 5 prediction history is used to assess this prediction, Fernandez is a lock to be passed over…

[moonslav59]

Another Zack Penrod story:

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/boston-red-sox-zach-penrod-continues-ascension-in-arizona-fall-league?t=arizona-fall-league-coverage

 

He might be the one guy we really regret not protecting.

[mvp 78]

I’m going to predict Ryan Fernandez gets selected. And if my Rule 5 prediction history is used to assess this prediction, Fernandez is a lock to be passed over…

 

Yeah, I'm not worried about middle relievers with relatively low upside.

[mvp 78]

He might be the one guy we really regret not protecting.

 

Maybe? He really has no track record and hasn't pitched above A ball. I think Drohan is more likely to get picked than anyone else. If Penrod is selected, there's a better than 50% chance he's returned.

[Bellhorn04]

FanGraphs on the 40 man moves:

 

More interesting than what Boston did Tuesday is what they didn’t do. They arguably had the biggest roster crunch in baseball, with nearly a dozen potential additions and eight or so current 40-man occupants who I’d consider on the roster bubble. Young righties Luis Perales (whose fastball has monstrous vertical carry)

 

Monstrous vertical carry? Is that the same as the notorious "rising fastball"?

[mvp 78]

Monstrous vertical carry? Is that the same as the notorious "rising fastball"?

 

It's a MYTH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[moonslav59]

Maybe? He really has no track record and hasn't pitched above A ball. I think Drohan is more likely to get picked than anyone else. If Penrod is selected, there's a better than 50% chance he's returned.

 

I meant in terms of which selectee has a better chance of becoming really good.

[mvp 78]

I meant in terms of which selectee has a better chance of becoming really good.

 

Maybe? Rule 5 picks rarely become really good though the Sox probably wish they still had Ryan Pressly.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Monstrous vertical carry? Is that the same as the notorious "rising fastball"?

 

Maybe it speaks to his potential for ascendance. Or to be abducted by a UAP...

[moonslav59]

Maybe? Rule 5 picks rarely become really good though the Sox probably wish they still had Ryan Pressly.

 

...and the Yanks probably wish they protected Whitlock.

[moonslav59]

soxprospects.com projects the Sea Dogs to start the season with these top prospects on their roster:

 

1. Mayer

3. Anthony

5. Teel

8. Wikelman

(Plus, I Coffey, Bastardo, Penrod, Hickey)

 

Woo is projected to have:

4. Rafaela

6. Yorke

13. Drohan

15. Walter

16. Meidroth

23. DHam

38. Gambrell

(Kelly, Guerrero, Robertson, Meidroth, Scott, Rosier)

 

Maybe Perales, Castro and Monegro cell promoted to AA, at some point in '24.

[Larry Cook]

soxprospects.com projects the Sea Dogs to start the season with these top prospects on their roster:

 

1. Mayer

3. Anthony

5. Teel

8. Wikelman

(Plus, I Coffey, Bastardo, Penrod, Hickey)

 

Woo is projected to have:

4. Rafaela

6. Yorke

13. Drohan

15. Walter

16. Meidroth

23. DHam

38. Gambrell

(Kelly, Guerrero, Robertson, Meidroth, Scott, Rosier)

 

Maybe Perales, Castro and Monegro cell promoted to AA, at some point in '24.

 

Maybe we can draft burns of tenn. in the 2024 draft and he is at Portland as well!!! That would be a stacked Portland team

[mvp 78]

soxprospects.com projects the Sea Dogs to start the season with these top prospects on their roster:

 

1. Mayer

3. Anthony

5. Teel

8. Wikelman

(Plus, I Coffey, Bastardo, Penrod, Hickey)

 

Woo is projected to have:

4. Rafaela

6. Yorke

13. Drohan

15. Walter

16. Meidroth

23. DHam

38. Gambrell

(Kelly, Guerrero, Robertson, Meidroth, Scott, Rosier)

 

Maybe Perales, Castro and Monegro cell promoted to AA, at some point in '24.

 

WOO’s pitching was bad the past few years because of talent, not coaching. The team should be a little bit better going forward.