2023 Free Agents

[Bellhorn04]

There are bigger FAs than he.

 

There are also more FAs in areas we actually need than DH.

 

Is Bloom trying to hoard DHs? Is there a rule change coming up, where all position players can have a DH for them in the line-uP?

 

Must be planning for Yoshida to play LF.

[moonslav59]

You didn’t answer if you hurt yourself, or not.

 

Wasn't on a horse to get hurt getting off of.

 

Answer my Q, now: the same one I asked twice:

 

Is signing a .310 BA player from Japan better than signing a .200 BA player from Japan?

 

If yes, please explain if all that matters is MLB "proof."

[Jasonbay44]

Swanson got 7 years $177 million

[Old Red]

This is you quote, still on the same page as this continuing lie:

 

I’m not exposed. The disagreement on the best CF, and Kike not being a playoff hero to me is the real deal. Like I’ll repeat if you wasn’t so hung up on Kike it wouldn’t matter what was said, but you are, and it does, and that seems like a problem for you.

 

Post #2237 is fact.

 

This is not the first time you said CF and not CF D. Mayb e you meant to say "D," but after you've done it at least 5 times, and been called out each time, I find it hard to believe it was a typing mistake.

 

The fact that you doubled down on not saying it just minutes after posting exactly the lie I spoke of shows exactly who won't come down off his high horse and admit being wrong.

You didn’t go back very far did you, because if you had post 2232 said D. I repeat post 2232 said D. I’ve also said for 1 year before, but we’ve had so many back, and forths on Kike it could be anywhere.

[moonslav59]

Must be planning for Yoshida to play LF.

 

This season we had 4-5 guys that LF was their best position- other than maybe DH:

 

Verduo

Duran

Cordero

Pham

Almonte

and maybe Refsnyder

 

Now, it's...

Verdugo

Yoshida

Duran

pending: JD (certainly DH is #1 by far)

and maybe Refsnyder

[Hugh2]

It’s disappointing because the Sox didn’t really get any big free agents, but Swanson wasn’t really at the top of my list. It would have been a panic move to get him and get him while having to face those penalties.

 

JDM actually makes sense now, not two months ago, but now he does. He will come cheaper than the QO, and could replace Hosmer as the DH, and is RH.

 

I think JDM is in decline, but it might not be as pronounced as last year. He could look like more of his 2021 self. Let’s hope so. Because baring a trade (which seems unlikely for a premium player) no one is coming to save us.

[moonslav59]

You didn’t go back very far did you, because if you had post 2232 said D. I repeat post 2232 said D. I’ve also said for 1 year before, but we’ve had so many back, and forths on Kike it could be anywhere.

 

Yes, you have said "on D" many times, but why can't you just admit you often say just "CF" and not "CF on D?"

 

You do know, it's actually a sign of strength not of weakness to admit a mistake.

 

The thing is you have done this often and to say I am lying to say you said you did, when it is clear you said it just digs yourself deeper into your lie.

 

Did I lie to say you said it? Did you call me a liar for saying the truth? Calling me a liar is yet another lie. Covering lies that covered lies that covered...

 

I don't expect a truthful answer- just more diversions, talk of horses, and maybe a good night Dick.

[moonslav59]

It’s disappointing because the Sox didn’t really get any big free agents, but Swanson wasn’t really at the top of my list. It would have been a panic move to get him and get him while having to face those penalties.

 

JDM actually makes sense now, not two months ago, but now he does. He will come cheaper than the QO, and could replace Hosmer as the DH, and is RH.

 

I think JDM is in decline, but it might not be as pronounced as last year. He could look like more of his 2021 self. Let’s hope so. Because baring a trade (which seems unlikely for a premium player) no one is coming to save us.

 

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.

 

Our biggest need is SP, SS (or 2B), RF and then maybe another SP, a catcher and another RP'er. DH is maybe 6th or 7th. I could be okay with 5th or even 4th, if we filled the top 3 adequately.

 

Would you rather have Arroyo and E Valdez at 2B and Story out of position at SS and JD at DH vs Andrus at SS, Story at 2B and Dugo/Ref/Dalbec/Arroyo sharing DH?

 

Kluber as our #3 SP and Houck in the pen vs JD at DH and Houck as the #3 and Brasier still on the 26?

 

Anderson or Conforto in RF and Dugo/Ref/Yoshida/Dalbec in LF and DH vs JD at DH and Yoshida in LF w Dugo?Ref in RF?

 

I know we should be able to do more than one of these things, and if we sign Andrus and Kluber, I'd feel better about JD over a RF'er, but when are we going to fill just one of our top 3 highest needs?

[Old Red]

Yes, you have said "on D" many times, but why can't you just admit you often say just "CF" and not "CF on D?"

 

You do know, it's actually a sign of strength not of weakness to admit a mistake.

 

The thing is you have done this often and to say I am lying to say you said you did, when it is clear you said it just digs yourself deeper into your lie.

 

Did I lie to say you said it? Did you call me a liar for saying the truth? Calling me a liar is yet another lie. Covering lies that covered lies that covered...

 

I don't expect a truthful answer- just more diversions, talk of horses, and maybe a good night Dick.

I didn’t think I have to say it every time, but I should have known better that each, and every word has to be spelled out for you, so if that’s a sign of weakness than I’m guilty. I think you hit your head when you fell off your high horse chair. Hope you feel better soon.

[Bellhorn04]

I know we should be able to do more than one of these things, and if we sign Andrus and Kluber, I'd feel better about JD over a RF'er, but when are we going to fill just one of our top 3 highest needs?

 

Lots of time left. But not many players.

[Old Red]

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.

 

Our biggest need is SP, SS (or 2B), RF and then maybe another SP, a catcher and another RP'er. DH is maybe 6th or 7th. I could be okay with 5th or even 4th, if we filled the top 3 adequately.

 

Would you rather have Arroyo and E Valdez at 2B and Story out of position at SS and JD at DH vs Andrus at SS, Story at 2B and Dugo/Ref/Dalbec/Arroyo sharing DH?

 

Kluber as our #3 SP and Houck in the pen vs JD at DH and Houck as the #3 and Brasier still on the 26?

 

Anderson or Conforto in RF and Dugo/Ref/Yoshida/Dalbec in LF and DH vs JD at DH and Yoshida in LF w Dugo?Ref in RF?

 

I know we should be able to do more than one of these things, and if we sign Andrus and Kluber, I'd feel better about JD over a RF'er, but when are we going to fill just one of our top 3 highest needs?

E Valdez I don’t believe is even in the picture, and Story is a SS so saying he is out of position is like Bloom talking about Story’s range will make up for his arm.

[Old Red]

It’s disappointing because the Sox didn’t really get any big free agents, but Swanson wasn’t really at the top of my list. It would have been a panic move to get him and get him while having to face those penalties.

 

JDM actually makes sense now, not two months ago, but now he does. He will come cheaper than the QO, and could replace Hosmer as the DH, and is RH.

 

I think JDM is in decline, but it might not be as pronounced as last year. He could look like more of his 2021 self. Let’s hope so. Because baring a trade (which seems unlikely for a premium player) no one is coming to save us.

Once again we agree. I think JD will bounce back somewhat, and Abreu was at the top of Bloom’s list, so I guess he wants a little thump at DH.

[Bellhorn04]

Of course, just because we have reported interest in JD, I wouldn't pencil him into our 2023 lineup just yet.

[Old Red]

Of course, just because we have reported interest in JD, I wouldn't pencil him into our 2023 lineup just yet.

 

JD was a late signing when he came to Boston 5 years ago, but I can’t see Bloom paying much money now, so you are probably right.

[moonslav59]

I didn’t think I have to say it every time, but I should have known better that each, and every word has to be spelled out for you, so if that’s a sign of weakness than I’m guilty. I think you hit your head when you fell off your high horse chair. Hope you feel better soon.

 

You called me a liar for saying something you said and doubled down by saying you did not say it.

 

I'm not missing the meaning of what you said, and it doesn't matter if you said "D" a few times or not. You said what I said you said, and you called me a liar, then denied you said it.

 

How hard is to to say, "I meant to say CF D," or "My bad, I thought I said CF D?"

 

You still can't say it. I don't understand why it's so hard to just say it.

 

Instead you blame me for not knowing you implied CF D.

 

Words have meaning, except to you, I guess.

 

(I knew would go back to taking horses and horse s***.)

[Behindenemylines]

Tired of hearing Sox are in on free agent X, and then free agent X signs elsewhere! The team as is, is a last place team.

[Old Red]

You called me a liar for saying something you said and doubled down by saying you did not say it.

 

I'm not missing the meaning of what you said, and it doesn't matter if you said "D" a few times or not. You said what I said you said, and you called me a liar, then denied you said it.

 

How hard is to to say, "I meant to say CF D," or "My bad, I thought I said CF D?"

 

You still can't say it. I don't understand why it's so hard to just say it.

 

Instead you blame me for not knowing you implied CF D.

 

Words have meaning, except to you, I guess.

 

(I knew would go back to taking horses and horse s***.)

 

It doesn’t matter if I said D before, or not? It doesn’t matter if I said D for 1 year before , or not? I don’t have to say it every time. Once should be enough, and what I called you liar about was that you going with the story that I never said those two things before, which I have, and more than once. We definitely need an objective observer to come, and straighten this out, and if they did I have to doubt they would ask if you are for real.

[moonslav59]

It doesn’t matter if I said D before, or not? It doesn’t matter if I said D for 1 year before , or not? I don’t have to say it every time. Once should be enough, and what I called you liar about was that you going with the story that I never said those two things before, which I have, and more than once. We definitely need an objective observer to come, and straighten this out, and if they did I have to doubt they would ask if you are for real.

 

No, it does not matter, if sometimes you said CF D. You said CF. I said you said just CF and you denied saying and called me a liar.

 

The fact that you still can't just say, "I meant to say CF" speaks volumes.

 

Yes, I have said things that aren't true or realized I wasw rong later and admitted it and apologized, when needed. That's the big difference, and if you knew what being on a high hose meant, you'd see it is you on the horse, not me.

 

I was wrong to say you hated Cora, when you never said it. I said I was wrong and apologized. It didn't help, because yo keep bringing it up, as if I'm still saying it

 

I was wrong to say Kike had the best season on defense in CF in my lifetime when a half dozen others were just as good or better. I agreed when called out for my over exuberance on a current Sox player I cheer for.

 

You'll never say you even made a slight mistake, mistyped or didn't mean exactly what you wrote. Instead, you double and triple down on a your false statement and blame others for not knowing what words mean.

[Jasonbay44]

JD Martinez to dodgers. 1 year $10 million

[dgalehouse]

You have to admit that the Sox are " in on a lot of guys. " They don't get any of them, but they sure are in.

[moonslav59]

Has anyone done a breakdown on all the key players lost and gained by each AL East team?

 

Please add names I missed:

 

BAL?

Add: A Frazier, K Gibson, Cordero

Lost: Jorge Lopez, Mancini, Lyles, Aguilar

 

TOR?

Add: Bass, Swanson

Lost: T Hernandez, Stripling

 

TBR?

Add: Eflin

Lost: Kluber, Zunino

 

NYY?

Add: Rodon, Kahnle

Lost: Taillon, Chapman, Gallo, Britton,

 

BOS:

Add: Yoshida, Jansen, Martin, Joely, Mills (if you want to count more from Casas and Bello, Kelly, German, Wong and some prospects or even more from Kike & Story, Sale, Paxton...) McGuire

Lost: Bogey, Nate, JD, Wacha, Hill, Vaz, Strahm, JBJ, Diekman, Downs

 

I know I'm missing a lot. I know other teams are expecting more from many players who were injured in 2022 or not called up until later in the season.

Edited December 18, 2022 by moonslav59

[moonslav59]

You have to admit that the Sox are " in on a lot of guys. " They don't get any of them, but they sure are in.

 

They only get the ones where no reports say they are "in on."

[notin]

They only get the ones where no reports say they are "in on."

 

I do think the bulk of “in on” stories are clickbait…

[notin]

JD Martinez to dodgers. 1 year $10 million

 

So the Notin list is on to Andrus, Anderson and then maybe? AJ Pollock?

[oldtimer]

JD Martinez to dodgers. 1 year $10 million

 

Good. The temptation to resign him was there but we should be looking elsewhere.

[harmony]

Has anyone done a breakdown on all the key players lost and gained by each AL East team?

 

Please add names I missed:

 

BAL?

Add: A Frazier, K Gibson, Cordero

Lost: Jorge Lopez, Mancini, Lyles, Aguilar

 

TOR?

Add: K Wong

Lost: T Hernandez, Stripling

TBR?

Add:

Lost: Kluber, Zunino

 

NYY?

Add: Rodon, Kahnle

Lost: Taillon, Chapman, Gallo, Britton,

 

BOS:

Add: Yoshida, Jansen, Martin, Joely, Mills (if you want to count more from Casas and Bello, Kelly, German, Wong and some prospects or even more from Kike & Story, Sale, Paxton...) McGuire

Lost: Bogey, Nate, JD, Wacha, Hill, Vaz, Strahm, JBJ, Diekman, Downs

 

I know I'm missing a lot. I know other teams are expecting more from many players who were injured in 2022 or not called up until later in the season.

The Blue Jays added Anthony Bass and Erik Swanson, but Kolten Wong went to the Seattle Mariners.

 

The Rays signed Zach Eflin.

Edited December 18, 2022 by harmony

[moonslav59]

The Blue Jays added Anthony Bass and Erik Swanson, but Kolten Wong went to the Seattle Mariners.

 

The Rays signed Zach Eflin.

 

Thanks. I'll edit.

[notin]

Has anyone done a breakdown on all the key players lost and gained by each AL East team?

 

Please add names I missed:

 

BAL?

Add: A Frazier, K Gibson, Cordero

Lost: Jorge Lopez, Mancini, Lyles, Aguilar

 

TOR?

Add: K Wong

Lost: T Hernandez, Stripling

 

TBR?

Add:

Lost: Kluber, Zunino

 

NYY?

Add: Rodon, Kahnle

Lost: Taillon, Chapman, Gallo, Britton,

 

BOS:

Add: Yoshida, Jansen, Martin, Joely, Mills (if you want to count more from Casas and Bello, Kelly, German, Wong and some prospects or even more from Kike & Story, Sale, Paxton...) McGuire

Lost: Bogey, Nate, JD, Wacha, Hill, Vaz, Strahm, JBJ, Diekman, Downs

 

I know I'm missing a lot. I know other teams are expecting more from many players who were injured in 2022 or not called up until later in the season.

 

Technically the Dodgers lost Gallo. Also you list Cordero as added by the Orioles but not lost by the Red Sox.

 

And take out the MiLB players. Every team has those…

Edited December 18, 2022 by notin

[notin]

Good. The temptation to resign him was there but we should be looking elsewhere.

 

1 year wouldn’t have been bad…

[moonslav59]

JD Martinez to dodgers. 1 year $10 million

 

I'm actually glad to hear this.