2023 Free Agents

[Bellhorn04]

Top unsigned guys per FanGraphs projected fWAR:

Eovaldi

Kluber

Wacha

Smyly

Duffy

Miley

Minor

Greinke

Hill

Cueto

Lyles

Weaver

Pineda

 

Earlier, he stated that he wanted someone that could provide INNINGS and help lead the staff. Is that Kluber? Maybe? It's definitely underwhelming for the starting rotation, but I didn't really expect much from this FA class.

 

Smyly is deleted (Cubs).

[Hugh2]

If they wait out the market, they could maybe sign Kluber AND Eovaldi anyway.

 

Brilliant! Bloom will get the best bargains.

[mvp 78]

Brilliant! Bloom will get the best bargains.

 

Bloom would have loved Filene's Basement in Downtown Crossing.

[moonslav59]

I have a feeling that 2b might just be a rotating cast of characters: Arroyo, Valdez and whatever guys they churn through the bottom of the 40 man.

 

Maybe they'll get a cheap FA backup like Mendick or Iggy.

 

Hey, people are looking for a spot for Bobby Dee, or should I say Booby Dee, and he did play some 2B , last year!!!

[mvp 78]

Hey, people are looking for a spot for Bobby Dee, or should I say Booby Dee, and he did play some 2B , last year!!!

 

Without shifting, I don't think lumbering guys can be put at 2b anymore.

[redsoxrules]

Without shifting, I don't think lumbering guys can be put at 2b anymore.

 

This is a great point, your 2b now will have to be just as good as your SS without the shifts. Pedroia type

[mvp 78]

This is a great point, your 2b now will have to be just as good as your SS without the shifts. Pedroia type

 

To me, Story had moments that were reminiscent of Pedey at 2b. He was really good there.

[moonslav59]

To me, Story had moments that were reminiscent of Pedey at 2b. He was really good there.

 

Many moments, and maybe much more to come, if he can play 155 games at 2B.

[moonslav59]

Maybe acquiring players by trade is our best hope, but here are available free agents at positions of our greatest needs:

 

SP

Eovaldi

Kluber

Wacha

Smyly (to Cubs?)

Duffy

Miley

Minor

Greinke

Hill

Cueto

Lyles, Weaver, Pineda

 

SS

Andrus

Iggy

Mendick

W Castro, Camargo, Chang, Pinder, Gregorius, Simmons

 

RF

Conforto

Peralta

Myers

Anderson

 

RP

Rogers

Chafin

Fulmer

Ottavino

Kimbrel

Phelps, A Young, Green

[moonslav59]

Lugo to Padres

 

$7.5M in 2023 w $7.5M player option for 2024.

Edited December 19, 2022 by moonslav59

[moonslav59]

Here are the highest paid FA contracts in MLB that are over or 1-2 years from being over. (per cots)

 

I'd like people's opinions on what percent turned out well for the team signing them.

 

14. Alex Rodriguez, $275,000,000 (2008-17)

16. Alex Rodriguez, $252,000,000 (2001-10)

17. Miguel Cabrera, $248,000,000 (2016-23)

20. Albert Pujols, $240,000,000 (2012-21)

… Robinson Cano, $240,000,000 (2014-23)

22. Joey Votto, $225,000,000 (2014-23)

23. David Price, $217,000,000 (2016-22)

24. Clayton Kershaw, $215,000,000 (2014-20)

26. Prince Fielder, $214,000,000 (2012-20)

28. Max Scherzer, $210,000,000 (2015-21)

30. Zack Greinke, $206,500,000 (2016-21)

31. Derek Jeter, $189,000,000 (2001-10)

33. Joe Mauer, $184,000,000 (2011-18)

. . . Jason Heyward, $184,000,000 (2016-23)

37. Mark Teixeira, $180,000,000 (2009-16)

. . . Justin Verlander, $180,000,000 (2013-19)

40. Felix Hernandez, $175,000,000 (2013-19)

. . . Stephen Strasburg, $175,000,000 (2017-23)

.44. Buster Posey, $167,000,000 (2013-21)

45. Jose Altuve, $163,500,000 (2018-24)

49. CC Sabathia, $161,000,000 (2009-15)

. . . Chris Davis, $161,000,000 (2016-22)

51. Manny Ramirez, $160,000,000 (2001-08)

. . . Matt Kemp, $160,000,000 (2012-19)

53. Troy Tulowitzki, $157,750,000 (2011-20)

54. Masahiro Tanaka, $155,000,000 (2014-20)

. . . Jon Lester, $155,000,000 (2015-20)

56. Adrian Gonzalez, $154,000,000 (2012-18)

57. Jacoby Ellsbury, $153,000,000 (2014-20)

58. Miguel Cabrera, $152,300,000 (2008-15)

59. Zack Greinke, $147,000,000 (2013-18)

60. Chris Sale, $145,000,000 (2020-24)

61. Mike Trout, $144,500,000 (2015-20)

62. Cole Hamels, $144,000,000 (2013-18)

64. Carl Crawford, $142,000,000 (2011-17)

65. Todd Helton, $141,500,000 (2003-11)

67. Patrick Corbin, $140,000,000 (2019-24)

69. David Wright, $138,000,000 (2013-20)

70. Johan Santana, $137,500,000 (2008-13)

. . . Jacob deGrom, $137,500,000 (2019-23)

72. Alfonso Soriano, $136,000,000 (2007-14)

73. Freddie Freeman, $135,000,000 (2014-21)

74. Justin Upton, $132,750,000 (2016-21)

76. Shin-Soo Choo, $130,000,000 (2014-20)

. . . Johnny Cueto, $130,000,000 (2016-21)

. . . Paul Goldschmidt, $130,000,000 (2020-24)

. . . Max Scherzer, $130,000,000 (2022-24)

80. Matt Cain, $127,500,000 (2012-17)

81. Barry Zito, $126,000,000 (2007-13)

. . . Vernon Wells, $126,000,000 (2008-14)

. . . Jayson Werth, $126,000,000 (2011-17)

. . . Yu Darvish, $126,000,000 (2018-23)

85. Ryan Howard, $125,000,000 (2012-16)

. . . Josh Hamilton, $125,000,000 (2013-17)

88. CC Sabathia, $122,000,000 (2012-16)

89. Mike Hampton, $121,000,000 (2001-08)

90. Jason Giambi, $120,000,000 (2002-08)

. . . Matt Holliday, $120,000,000 (2010-16)

. . . Cliff Lee, $120,000,000 (2011-15)

. . . Elvis Andrus, $120,000,000 (2015-22)

95. Carlos Beltran, $119,000,000 (2005-11)

96. Zack Wheeler, $118,000,000 (2020-24)

97. Ken Griffey Jr., $116,500,000 (2000-08)

101. Jordan Zimmermann, $110,000,000 (2016-20)

. . . Dustin Pedroia, $110,000,000 (2014-21)

. . . Yoenis Cespedes, $110,000,000 (2017-20)

. . . J.D. Martinez, $110,000,000 (2018-22)

106. Charlie Blackmon, $108,000,000 (2018-23)

108. Jose Reyes, $106,000,000 (2012-17)

. . . Justin Upton, $106,000,000 (2018-22)

110. Carlos Correa, $105,300,000 (2022-24)

111. Kevin Brown, $105,000,000 (1999-2005)

. . . Homer Bailey, $105,000,000 (2014-19)

. . . Ryan Braun, $105,000,000 (2016-20)

114. Trevor Bauer, $102,000,000 (2021-23)

116. Albert Pujols, $100,000,000 (2004-10)

. . . Carlos Lee, $100,000,000 (2007-12)

. . . Ryan Zimmerman, $100,000,000 (2014-19)

. . . Evan Longoria, $100,000,000 (2017-22)

. . . Kyle Seager, $100,000,000 (2015-21)

. . . Alex Bregman, $100,000,000 (2020-24)

126. Adam Wainwright, $97,500,000 (2014-18)

127. Pablo Sandoval, $95,000,000 (2015-19)

128. Clayton Kershaw, $93,000,000 (2019-21)

129. Josh Donaldson, $92,000,000 (2020-23)

130. Carlos Zambrano, $91,500,000 (2008-12)

131. Mike Piazza, $91,000,000 (1999-2005)

132. Chipper Jones, $90,000,000 (2001-06)

. . . Barry Bonds, $90,000,000 (2002-06)

. . . Scott Rolen, $90,000,000 (2003-10)

. . . Torii Hunter, $90,000,000 (2008-12)

. . . Ichiro Suzuki, $90,000,000 (2008-12)

. . . Hunter Pence, $90,000,000 (2014-18)

. . . Jeff Samardzija, $90,000,000 (2016-20)

 

Remember inflation would move some of these guys on the bottom up significantly.

[moonslav59]

Here the whole list:

 

Red= one year from half, half or more than half over, but not on my last list

 

1. Mike Trout, $426,500,000 (2019-30)

2. Mookie Betts, $365,000,000 (2021-32)

3. Aaron Judge, $360,000,000 (2023-31)

4. Carlos Correa, $350,000,000 (2023-35)

5. Francisco Lindor, $341,000,000 (2022-31)

6. Fernando Tatis, $340,000,000 (2021-34)

7. Bryce Harper, $330,000,000 (2019-31)

8. Giancarlo Stanton, $325,000,000 (2015-27)

9. Corey Seager, $325,000,000 (2022-31)

10. Gerrit Cole, $324,000,000 (2020-28)

11. Manny Machado, $300,000,000 (2019-28)

… Trea Turner, $300,000,000 (2023-33)

13. Xander Bogaerts, $280,000,000 (2023-33)

14. Alex Rodriguez, $275,000,000 (2008-17)

15. Nolan Arenado, $260,000,000 (2019-26)

16. Alex Rodriguez, $252,000,000 (2001-10)

17. Miguel Cabrera, $248,000,000 (2016-23)

18. Stephen Strasburg, $245,000,000 (2020-26)

… Anthony Rendon, $245,000,000 (2020-26)

20. Albert Pujols, $240,000,000 (2012-21)

… Robinson Cano, $240,000,000 (2014-23)

22. Joey Votto, $225,000,000 (2014-23)

23. David Price, $217,000,000 (2016-22)

24. Clayton Kershaw, $215,000,000 (2014-20)

… Christian Yelich, $215,000,000 (2020-28)

26. Prince Fielder, $214,000,000 (2012-20)

27. Austin Riley, $212,000,000 (2023-32)

28. Max Scherzer, $210,000,000 (2015-21)

… Julio Rodriguez, $209,300,000 (2023-34)

30. Zack Greinke, $206,500,000 (2016-21)

31. Derek Jeter, $189,000,000 (2001-10)

32. Jacob deGrom, $185,000,000 (2023-27)

33. Joe Mauer, $184,000,000 (2011-18)

. . . Jason Heyward, $184,000,000 (2016-23)

35. Wander Franco, $182,000,000 (2022-32)

. . . Kris Bryant, $182,000,000 (2022-28)

37. Mark Teixeira, $180,000,000 (2009-16)

. . . Justin Verlander, $180,000,000 (2013-19)

39. Dansby Swanson, $177,000,000 (2023-29)

40. Felix Hernandez, $175,000,000 (2013-19)

. . . Stephen Strasburg, $175,000,000 (2017-23)

. . . Marcus Semien, $175,000,000 (2022-28)

43. Matt Olson, $168,000,000 (2022-29)

44. Buster Posey, $167,000,000 (2013-21)

45. Jose Altuve, $163,500,000 (2018-24)

46. Freddie Freeman, $162,000,000 (2022-27)

. . . Brandon Nimmo, $162,000,000 (2023-30)

. . . Carlos Rodón, $162,000,000 (2023-28)

49. CC Sabathia, $161,000,000 (2009-15)

. . . Chris Davis, $161,000,000 (2016-22)

51. Manny Ramirez, $160,000,000 (2001-08)

. . . Matt Kemp, $160,000,000 (2012-19)

53. Troy Tulowitzki, $157,750,000 (2011-20)

54. Masahiro Tanaka, $155,000,000 (2014-20)

. . . Jon Lester, $155,000,000 (2015-20)

56. Adrian Gonzalez, $154,000,000 (2012-18)

57. Jacoby Ellsbury, $153,000,000 (2014-20)

58. Miguel Cabrera, $152,300,000 (2008-15)

59. Zack Greinke, $147,000,000 (2013-18)

60. Chris Sale, $145,000,000 (2020-24)

61. Mike Trout, $144,500,000 (2015-20)

62. Cole Hamels, $144,000,000 (2013-18)

. . . Eric Hosmer, $144,000,000 (2018-25)

64. Carl Crawford, $142,000,000 (2011-17)

65. Todd Helton, $141,500,000 (2003-11)

66. Jose Ramirez, $141,000,000 (2022-28)

67. Patrick Corbin, $140,000,000 (2019-24)

68. Javier Baez, $140,000,000 (2022-27)

69. David Wright, $138,000,000 (2013-20)

70. Johan Santana, $137,500,000 (2008-13)

. . . Jacob deGrom, $137,500,000 (2019-23)

72. Alfonso Soriano, $136,000,000 (2007-14)

73. Freddie Freeman, $135,000,000 (2014-21)

74. Justin Upton, $132,750,000 (2016-21)

75. Jose Berrios, $131,000,000 (2022-28)

76. Shin-Soo Choo, $130,000,000 (2014-20)

. . . Johnny Cueto, $130,000,000 (2016-21)

. . . Paul Goldschmidt, $130,000,000 (2020-24)

. . . Max Scherzer, $130,000,000 (2022-24)

80. Matt Cain, $127,500,000 (2012-17)

81. Barry Zito, $126,000,000 (2007-13)

. . . Vernon Wells, $126,000,000 (2008-14)

. . . Jayson Werth, $126,000,000 (2011-17)

. . . Yu Darvish, $126,000,000 (2018-23)

85. Ryan Howard, $125,000,000 (2012-16)

. . . Josh Hamilton, $125,000,000 (2013-17)

. . . George Springer, $125,000,000 (2021-26)

88. CC Sabathia, $122,000,000 (2012-16)

89. Mike Hampton, $121,000,000 (2001-08)

90. Jason Giambi, $120,000,000 (2002-08)

. . . Matt Holliday, $120,000,000 (2010-16)

. . . Cliff Lee, $120,000,000 (2011-15)

. . . Elvis Andrus, $120,000,000 (2015-22)

. . . Xander Bogaerts, $120,000,000 (2020-25)

95. Carlos Beltran, $119,000,000 (2005-11)

96. Zack Wheeler, $118,000,000 (2020-24)

97. Ken Griffey Jr., $116,500,000 (2000-08)

98. J.T. Realmuto, $115,500,000 (2021-25)

99. Robbie Ray, $115,000,000 (2022-26)

. . . Yordan Alvarez, $115,000,000 (2023-28)

101. Jordan Zimmermann, $110,000,000 (2016-20)

. . . Dustin Pedroia, $110,000,000 (2014-21)

. . . Yoenis Cespedes, $110,000,000 (2017-20)

. . . J.D. Martinez, $110,000,000 (2018-22)

. . . Kevin Gausman, $110,000,000 (2022-26)

106. Charlie Blackmon, $108,000,000 (2018-23)

. . . Luis Castillo, $108,000,000 (2023-27)

108. Jose Reyes, $106,000,000 (2012-17)

. . . Justin Upton, $106,000,000 (2018-22)

110. Carlos Correa, $105,300,000 (2022-24)

111. Kevin Brown, $105,000,000 (1999-2005)

. . . Homer Bailey, $105,000,000 (2014-19)

. . . Ryan Braun, $105,000,000 (2016-20)

114. Trevor Bauer, $102,000,000 (2021-23)

. . . Edwin Diaz, $102,000,000 (2023-27)

116. Albert Pujols, $100,000,000 (2004-10)

. . . Carlos Lee, $100,000,000 (2007-12)

. . . Ryan Zimmerman, $100,000,000 (2014-19)

. . . Evan Longoria, $100,000,000 (2017-22)

. . . Kyle Seager, $100,000,000 (2015-21)

. . . Alex Bregman, $100,000,000 (2020-24)

. . . Ronald Acuna, $100,000,000 (2019-26)

. . . Byron Buxton, $100,000,000 (2022-28)

. . . Nick Castellanos, $100,000,000 (2022-26)

. . . Joe Musgrove, $100,000,000 (2023-27)

126. Adam Wainwright, $97,500,000 (2014-18)

127. Pablo Sandoval, $95,000,000 (2015-19)

128. Clayton Kershaw, $93,000,000 (2019-21)

129. Josh Donaldson, $92,000,000 (2020-23)

130. Carlos Zambrano, $91,500,000 (2008-12)

131. Mike Piazza, $91,000,000 (1999-2005)

132. Chipper Jones, $90,000,000 (2001-06)

. . . Barry Bonds, $90,000,000 (2002-06)

. . . Scott Rolen, $90,000,000 (2003-10)

. . . Torii Hunter, $90,000,000 (2008-12)

. . . Ichiro Suzuki, $90,000,000 (2008-12)

. . . Hunter Pence, $90,000,000 (2014-18)

. . . Jeff Samardzija, $90,000,000 (2016-20)

. . . D.J. Lemahieu, $90,000,000 (2021-26)

. . . Masataka Yoshida, $90,000,000 (2023-27)

[iortiz]

Bloom is hiring only wounded old dogs. Going to be a long season again.

[moonslav59]

Bloom is hiring only wounded old dogs. Going to be a long season again.

 

Should he have brought back our wounded and old dogs?

[Old Red]

Should he have brought back our wounded and old dogs?

 

Already did with Pax, and Frail.

[moonslav59]

Already did with Pax, and Frail.

 

Strike one!

 

DD extended Frail.

 

I was thinking Nat, JD, Wacha and Hill- all old, hurt or both.

 

Seems like bringing back the team many hated was what many wanted.

[Old Red]

Strike one!

 

DD extended Frail.

 

I was thinking Nat, JD, Wacha and Hill- all old, hurt or both.

 

Seems like bringing back the team many hated was what many wanted.

 

I didn’t want any of the above, and that includes Pax, and Frail.

[moonslav59]

I didn’t want any of the above, and that includes Pax, and Frail.

 

But Nate was loved by all those fans on talk radio!

[Old Red]

But Nate was loved by all those fans on talk radio!

 

Never heard that, but I did hear Mookie, Bogey, and Raffy’s name.

[moonslav59]

Never heard that, but I did hear Mookie, Bogey, and Raffy’s name.

 

Probably not as much as Bloom's name.

[notin]

Already did with Pax, and Frail.

 

Bloom inherited and injured and expensive Sale. Paxton’s contract is dirt cheap in comparison

[Old Red]

Bloom inherited and injured and expensive Sale. Paxton’s contract is dirt cheap in comparison

 

Everyone in the universe knows who signed Frail to the extension, and anyone being cheap wasn’t the point. Old, and injured was, and Frail is as old, and injured as you can get.

[Old Red]

Probably not as much as Bloom's name.

 

I would say Bloom’s name gets mentioned more than anyone else on here, there, and everywhere. Lots of first, and last names too.

[notin]

Everyone in the universe knows who signed Frail to the extension, and anyone being cheap wasn’t the point. Old, and injured was, and Frail is as old, and injured as you can get.

 

Back in post 2355, there was some dope who said Bloom did. Unless of course that dope was implying Sale should have been traded, which is even funnier. Pitchers about to have TJ surgery and owed $145mill over the next 5 years might not be in the highest of demand…

Edited December 20, 2022 by notin

[moonslav59]

Everyone in the universe knows who signed Frail to the extension, and anyone being cheap wasn’t the point. Old, and injured was, and Frail is as old, and injured as you can get.

 

No. Now, this is "strike two," as you like to call it. We were responding to a post that said this...

 

Bloom is hiring only wounded old dogs.

 

To which you replied, Already did with Pax, and Frail.

 

No, Bloom did not do that with "Frail.

 

Now, I expect you to go on and say we are overanalyzing of double down on being wrong rather than admit you made yet another mistake. It's what you do.

[moonslav59]

Back in post 2355, there was some dope who said Bloom did. Unless of course that dope was implying Sale should have been traded, which is even funnier. Pitchers about to have TJ surgery and owed $145mill over the next 5 years might not be in the highest of demand…

 

Words have different meanings to him, so there is that, like when he said I "don't like Bogey, of his defense either," that meant just his defense. He doubled and tripled down on what he said meaning something totally different from its actual meaning rather than just say, "That's what I meant to say."

[Old Red]

Back in post 2355, there was some dope who said Bloom did. Unless of course that dope was implying Sale should have been traded, which is even funnier. Pitchers about to have TJ surgery and owed $145mill over the next 5 years might not be in the highest of demand…

 

Go back to your conspiracy theory like the Red Sox are going to make Raffy a DH, so they can hold the asking price down on a new contract. Ridiculous! Holding the asking price down on Raffy ship has sailed.

[moonslav59]

Go back to your conspiracy theory like the Red Sox are going to make Raffy a DH, so they can hold the asking price down on a new contract. Ridiculous! Holding the asking price down on Raffy ship has sailed.

 

Method #1: Change the subject. Point out other posters' gaffes, sometimes from long ago, so yours are hidden or forgotten.

[Old Red]

Words have different meanings to him, so there is that, like when he said I "don't like Bogey, of his defense either," that meant just his defense. He doubled and tripled down on what he said meaning something totally different from its actual meaning rather than just say, "That's what I meant to say."

 

For someone who can’t figure out why it’s not the same thing to lose Pedro, or Boggs as it is to lose Mookie, Bogey, and Raffy for the fans when it was pretty clear in the first place, and others even tried to point it out to you, and you still don’t get, and you want to say something about others.

[Old Red]

Method #1: Change the subject. Point out other posters' gaffes, sometimes from long ago, so yours are hidden or forgotten.

 

No gaffe at all. I know what I was saying, and the ridiculous DH statement was not long ago. Just because you like to play gotcha it works both ways.