Fire Bloom .

[mvp 78]

The way Song tells it, he really wasn't sure he'd ever play baseball again.

 

It's really the best advertisement for the Navy. Do you have a promising career and sports and like the Navy? Look at this high profile Noah Song case! Handled so well!

[Bellhorn04]

It's really the best advertisement for the Navy. Do you have a promising career and sports and like the Navy? Look at this high profile Noah Song case! Handled so well!

 

The Navy probably handled it perfectly, 3 years and then released.

 

It's the stupid rules and the evil one in Philadelphia that messed things up.

[Hugh2]

Was his time in the Navy really so restrictive that he could not find time, or be granted short leaves to work on his game?

 

Noah Song said he didn't do any baseball activities while in the Navy.

[Hugh2]

Hard to do it that way as 23, 24 and 25 would burn all his option years. You'd need to fast track him sooner than 2025.

 

I suppose it comes down to how much do you believe in him being a starter. Because he definitely needs a few years to ramp it up, and if his talent wasn't diminished (which we have no ideal about now) why wouldn't you want him as a starter?

[mvp 78]

The Navy probably handled it perfectly, 3 years and then released.

 

It's the stupid rules and the evil one in Philadelphia that messed things up.

 

No, they should have let him get out sooner. They have done so for other players. David Robinson only served for 2 years, for example. The problem is that the rules have changed over and over and Song was kind of stuck in limbo. Unfortunately, it could make students think a potential military commitment and a future athletic employment being incompatible.

[mvp 78]

Noah Song said he didn't do any baseball activities while in the Navy.

 

He said he did play catch regularly, but it was nothing like training to pitch.

[moonslav59]

The way Song tells it, he really wasn't sure he'd ever play baseball again.

 

But, you'd think with his skills and promise, he'd keep the dream alive, as best he could.

[mvp 78]

But, you'd think with his skills and promise, he'd keep the dream alive, as best he could.

 

It was a dream, just like the Newhart Show.

[notin]

He wasn't actually the one flying the plane though as he is too tall.

 

Still riskier than pitching without being properly warmed up…

[notin]

No, they should have let him get out sooner. They have done so for other players. David Robinson only served for 2 years, for example. The problem is that the rules have changed over and over and Song was kind of stuck in limbo. Unfortunately, it could make students think a potential military commitment and a future athletic employment being incompatible.

 

Why is that unfortunate?9

[mvp 78]

Why is that unfortunate?9

 

I think some may want to explore both. They'll have to pick one over the other prior to going to school.

[mvp 78]

Still riskier than pitching without being properly warmed up…

 

Nah, it's not like he was flying black hawks for the army.

[Old Red]

I think some may want to explore both. They'll have to pick one over the other prior to going to school.

 

That’s in my opinion the way it should be. He went into the Navy as the #1 priority, and not to play baseball. He could have gone anywhere to play baseball, but choose the Navy instead. He new full well what the commitment was. Just, because he was good at baseball shouldn’t have gotten him an easy, or early out.

[Bellhorn04]

I think some may want to explore both. They'll have to pick one over the other prior to going to school.

 

Song seems to be a rarity though. Before him who was the last guy in that kind of situation?

[moonslav59]

Song seems to be a rarity though. Before him who was the last guy in that kind of situation?

 

In baseball, I can't think of any, until you go back to players who missed time for the Korean War. Did any miss time for Vietnam? Probably. I just don't remember any.

[notin]

I think some may want to explore both. They'll have to pick one over the other prior to going to school.

 

If the military academy athletic programs suffer, I don’t see this as a big deal…

[notin]

In baseball, I can't think of any, until you go back to players who missed time for the Korean War. Did any miss time for Vietnam? Probably. I just don't remember any.

 

Al Bumbry, Garry Maddox, and Jim Bibby all served in Vietnam during their minor league careers…

[mvp 78]

That’s in my opinion the way it should be. He went into the Navy as the #1 priority, and not to play baseball. He could have gone anywhere to play baseball, but choose the Navy instead. He new full well what the commitment was. Just, because he was good at baseball shouldn’t have gotten him an easy, or early out.

 

Navy should get rid of their sports programs then.

[mvp 78]

Song seems to be a rarity though. Before him who was the last guy in that kind of situation?

 

The Navy let Joe Cardona skip his assignment right out of college to just be a long snapper for the Patriots. They did the same for Keenan Reynolds in the same NFL Draft.

[moonslav59]

Al Bumbry, Garry Maddox, and Jim Bibby all served in Vietnam during their minor league careers…

 

Thanks for the update. There was no rule 5, back then, right?

[mvp 78]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Rowley

[Old Red]

Navy should get rid of their sports programs then.

 

Wow! If your Maine objective is to play collegiate sports why would you want to go to one of the service academies in the first place? I had a relative a few years ago who had a chance to go play basketball at the Naval Academy. She went for a visit, and a overnight stay, and things were all spelled out on what the restrictions, and commitments would be, and she decided it was not for her, and that’s the way it should be. The only thing to me is it was a waste to send Song to Flight School.

[Old Red]

The Navy let Joe Cardona skip his assignment right out of college to just be a long snapper for the Patriots. They did the same for Keenan Reynolds in the same NFL Draft.

 

Good for them, but I believe Roger Dodger did his full time.

[mvp 78]

Thanks for the update. There was no rule 5, back then, right?

 

Wrong! It goes back to 1892. The various rules around it have slightly changed over the years.

 

Cecil Cooper was taken in the 1970 Rule 5 draft by the Cardinals but was sent back to the Sox.

[mvp 78]

Good for them, but I believe Roger Dodger did his full time.

 

Cardona? He got an EXEMPTION on basically day 1.

[notin]

Thanks for the update. There was no rule 5, back then, right?

 

Absolutely was. The Rule 5 draft is older than the American League.

 

Christy Mathewson was selected by the Cincinnati Reds in the Rule 5 draft in 1900. His rights were then traded to the Giants for fellow Hall of Famer Amos Rusie…

[notin]

Navy should get rid of their sports programs then.

 

Why?

 

Over 99% of all Division I athletes find careers in something other than sports. The purpose of college athletics isn’t to populate professional leagues…

[mvp 78]

Absolutely was. The Rule 5 draft is older than the American League.

 

Christy Mathewson was selected by the Cincinnati Reds in the Rule 5 draft in 1900. His rights were then traded to the Giants for fellow Hall of Famer Amos Rusie…

 

Management was basically drunk 75% of the time back then and stealing from the team the other 25% of the time.

[mvp 78]

Why?

 

Over 99% of all Division I athletes find careers in something other than sports. The purpose of college athletics isn’t to populate professional leagues…

 

And that % is even higher if you go to Navy. Sad!

 

Since 1979, Navy has had 3 seasons where the football program has had a .750 winning % or better.

[Old Red]

And that % is even higher if you go to Navy. Sad!

 

Since 1979, Navy has had 3 seasons where the football program has had a .750 winning % or better.

 

It’s amazing that the Navy is getting all the blame when Song should share some of the blame too if not more. Song could have gotten out of the Academy after two years, but decided to stay in.