Fire Bloom .

[Bellhorn04]

I mean, our we that concerned with the AAA roster.

 

I was referring to the guy's now-well-publicized non-baseball issues.

[mvp 78]

This is one of the most sensible posts I have read on here. Can someone name a SINGLE TOP pitching prospect Bloom has drafted or acquired other than Whitlock? The franchise from which Bloom came from { Tampa} was so adept at acquiring top young pitching talent. I am not interested in some 5 year plan. This is the Boston Red Sox not some small market team. I have zero faith that Bloom can put a true contender of the field in 2024.

 

The best prospects he's acquired:

Whitlock

Drohan

Elmer Rodriguez Cruz

Winckowski

Luis Guerrero (reliever)

Dalton Rogers

 

Aside from that, there are no other top 30 guys in the Sox org acquired by Bloom. He's put forth a very hitter heavy farm.

[Bellhorn04]

Yup!

 

I knew we had some serious rebuilding to do but thought it could be done in less than 5 years with continued prudent spending.

 

It could have been done a bit better methinks, but that's another matter.

[Dipre]

The best prospects he's acquired:

Whitlock

Drohan

Elmer Rodriguez Cruz

Winckowski

Luis Guerrero (reliever)

Dalton Rogers

 

Aside from that, there are no other top 30 guys in the Sox org acquired by Bloom. He's put forth a very hitter heavy farm.

 

By design. His draft philosophy is acquiring talent heavy athletic guys that can man the up-the-middle positions. They haven't drafted top-tier pitching in the initial rounds most of the time because it doesn't jive with their philosophy. His philosophy's fine overall, but they haven't hit on any middle-to-late rounds, international or trade pitching talent worth its weight in salt, which was a staple of his TBR teams.

[Dipre]

This is one of the most sensible posts I have read on here. Can someone name a SINGLE TOP pitching prospect Bloom has drafted or acquired other than Whitlock? The franchise from which Bloom came from { Tampa} was so adept at acquiring top young pitching talent. I am not interested in some 5 year plan. This is the Boston Red Sox not some small market team. I have zero faith that Bloom can put a true contender of the field in 2024.

 

That's the main problem. They don't care whether we're interested or not.

[dgalehouse]

The mood swings are getting out of control here. There should be some excitement with a weekend series in the boogie down Bronx. Hold off on the despair for a little while longer. The Yankees are vulnerable without Aaron Judge in the lineup. And their pitching is really banged up. Let's see how this weekend goes.

[moonslav59]

The best prospects he's acquired:

Whitlock

Drohan

Elmer Rodriguez Cruz

Winckowski

Luis Guerrero (reliever)

Dalton Rogers

 

Aside from that, there are no other top 30 guys in the Sox org acquired by Bloom. He's put forth a very hitter heavy farm.

 

Kinda like every GM since early Theo.

[notin]

If Matt Olson was 25/26 with the track record of production Devers has while playing 3B instead of 1B, he'd get 300MM easy in the current MLB economic climate. Kinda reactionary to be so down on Devers over what amounts to a bad month. Ever thought of rooting for the Phillies? Because you're very Phillie Fan-ish in this whole "Turn on a player if he struggles for more than a week" thing. right now.

 

Heck their new $300 mill shortstop is being booed by his mom. True story. Google it…

[notin]

This is one of the most sensible posts I have read on here. Can someone name a SINGLE TOP pitching prospect Bloom has drafted or acquired other than Whitlock? The franchise from which Bloom came from { Tampa} was so adept at acquiring top young pitching talent. I am not interested in some 5 year plan. This is the Boston Red Sox not some small market team. I have zero faith that Bloom can put a true contender of the field in 2024.

 

Drohan.

[dannycater]

*The Red Sox not some small market team*....this is the problem with what is going on as well...they are asking fans to swallow mediocrity for way too long when if they made some smart moves they could have been a legit contender soooner than later. But hey, let's keep defending Bloom on here...apparently he is God now. HE IS IN CHARGE OF BASEBALL OPERATIONS...SO HE HAS TO TAKE THE CRITICISM THAT GOES WITH IT.

[dannycater]

And the anti-JD, love Turner crowd, JD is top 5 in the NL in home runs and RBI...ye of little faith.

[notin]

By design. His draft philosophy is acquiring talent heavy athletic guys that can man the up-the-middle positions. They haven't drafted top-tier pitching in the initial rounds most of the time because it doesn't jive with their philosophy. His philosophy's fine overall, but they haven't hit on any middle-to-late rounds, international or trade pitching talent worth its weight in salt, which was a staple of his TBR teams.

 

To be fair, Bloom has only had two drafts that even had middle and late rounds…

[notin]

And the anti-JD, love Turner crowd, JD is top 5 in the NL in home runs and RBI...ye of little faith.

 

Point?

 

JD’s last season in Boston, he had a .790 OPS and hit 15Hrs in nearly 600 PA. He wasn’t horrible by any stretch, but what did he do that made you think he was an obvious extension candidate?

[dannycater]

Point?

 

JD’s last season in Boston, he had a .790 OPS and hit 15Hrs in nearly 600 PA. He wasn’t horrible by any stretch, but what did he do that made you think he was an obvious extension candidate?

 

History. He has been very good and certainly when he is on, he is one of the best power hitting DHs in MLB. Off season, doesn't mean he wasn't worth a 1-year extension. Also check out the current roster and other than Devers who is a power hitter? 92-year-old Justin Turner?

[Dipre]

To be fair, Bloom has only had two drafts that even had middle and late rounds…

 

True, but the point stands. He's had international periods and time to trade for talent. Don't get me wrong, the improvement of the farm is massive, but his inability to acquire young pitching of any kind is surprising. I assume it's because, as MVP said, it's the same scouting team.

[Dipre]

History. He has been very good and certainly when he is on, he is one of the best power hitting DHs in MLB.

 

Yet I don't see you mentioning Bogaerts anywhere. We get it, you want to complain, but come on.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Point?

 

JD’s last season in Boston, he had a .790 OPS and hit 15Hrs in nearly 600 PA. He wasn’t horrible by any stretch, but what did he do that made you think he was an obvious extension candidate?

 

Someone is going to say he hit two homers in his very last game last October and figured something out... like Bloom said Wacha did down the stretch in '21 (or like Kluber didn't in '22).

 

My question is what did JD do differently to have 15HRs in only 200 PA this year? Did NL analytic departments just not watch video of him in a Red Sox uni?

[mvp 78]

To be fair, Bloom has only had two drafts that even had middle and late rounds…

 

He also had a s*** ton of talent that is no longer here. He traded some away and let some go away for free. Could have grabbed arms for those guys. All he got out of it was Winckowski.

[Dipre]

He also had a s*** ton of talent that is no longer here. He traded some away and let some go away for free. Could have grabbed arms for those guys. All he got out of it was Winckowski.

 

Certainly could've got some pitching last year by blowing this roster the f*** up, which we all know he should have done.

[notin]

He also had a s*** ton of talent that is no longer here. He traded some away and let some go away for free. Could have grabbed arms for those guys. All he got out of it was Winckowski.

 

Or… he could have realized that he was never going to call up Hamilton even if he was winning the International League triple crown and the Sox only other alternative at shortstop was wheelchair-bound. And then he could have protected Ward…

[mvp 78]

History. He has been very good and certainly when he is on, he is one of the best power hitting DHs in MLB. Off season, doesn't mean he wasn't worth a 1-year extension. Also check out the current roster and other than Devers who is a power hitter? 92-year-old Justin Turner?

 

History from 21/22 is that he looks strong through 6/1 and then fades.

[mvp 78]

Or… he could have realized that he was never going to call up Hamilton even if he was winning the International League triple crown and the Sox only other alternative at shortstop was wheelchair-bound. And then he could have protected Ward…

 

Quite the saga.

[moonslav59]

Quite the sag, too.

[Bellhorn04]

History from 21/22 is that he looks strong through 6/1 and then fades.

 

He actually hit well in September in both seasons and in the 2021 postseason. Cool weather hitter or something like that.

[notin]

He also had a s*** ton of talent that is no longer here. He traded some away and let some go away for free. Could have grabbed arms for those guys. All he got out of it was Winckowski.

 

I was responding to a comment about he hasn’t drafted anything in his middle too late rounds. He’s only had two chances to do that…

[notin]

Someone is going to say he hit two homers in his very last game last October and figured something out... like Bloom said Wacha did down the stretch in '21 (or like Kluber didn't in '22).

 

My question is what did JD do differently to have 15HRs in only 200 PA this year? Did NL analytic departments just not watch video of him in a Red Sox uni?

 

JD had his chances in Boston. Most people are upset he wasn’t traded away.

 

Again, it seemed like no one liked the 2022 Red Sox when they were here. But now that they’re gone we’re swimming in all this Wacha, Eovaldi and Martinez love.

 

I think some folks just need to stop pining for the past and listen to the words of the great philosopher Stephen Stills . If you can’t be with the one you love…

[Bellhorn04]

JD had his chances in Boston. Most people are upset he wasn’t traded away.

 

Again, it seemed like no one liked the 2022 Red Sox when they were here. But now that they’re gone we’re swimming in all this Wacha, Eovaldi and Martinez love.

 

I think some folks just need to stop pining for the past and listen to the words of the great philosopher Stephen Stills . If you can’t be with the one you love…

 

Love the Kluber you're with?

[Bellhorn04]

JD had his chances in Boston. Most people are upset he wasn’t traded away.

 

Again, it seemed like no one liked the 2022 Red Sox when they were here. But now that they’re gone we’re swimming in all this Wacha, Eovaldi and Martinez love.

 

Again, does this mean we should hate the Raffy extension?

 

I think one of the main reasons that Wacha and Eovaldi are lamented is that they were not at all expensive compared to some of the other deals handed out, and they were hanging around a lot time. They were there for the taking.

[Old Red]

JD had his chances in Boston. Most people are upset he wasn’t traded away.

 

Again, it seemed like no one liked the 2022 Red Sox when they were here. But now that they’re gone we’re swimming in all this Wacha, Eovaldi and Martinez love.

 

I think some folks just need to stop pining for the past and listen to the words of the great philosopher Stephen Stills . If you can’t be with the one you love…

 

2022 is gone now, and 2023 is here. JD is outperforming Turner with the bat, and Evol, and Wacha just come off pitcher of the month. Those 3 are all performing well, and Kluber sucks, so it’s very understandable why people are talking about them. If Turner was out performing JD, and Kluber was pitching decent not to mention the Red Sox wasn’t a losing last place in the Div team at the moment it wouldn’t be such a big thing, but they aren’t, and it does.

[MADSTORK]

Actually the Betts trade has worked out pretty well considering the Sox were never going to be able to sign him and they acquired two starters…

 

Money talks ! End of Betts not wanting to be here

 

What 2 pitchers did they acquire?