The 2021-2022 Offseason Thread

[Old Red]

But are we really worried about the Tigers and Rangers and Mets getting better?

 

We should be. We have to play those teams.

[Hugh2]

Not sure if the majority are still out there any more.

 

I mean, just in up the middle infield you still have Story, Correra and Baez.

[Hugh2]

Scratch that, Baez is gone.

[Hugh2]

Still have Correa, Story and Siemon out there for up the middle, Freeman if you want a 1B. Schwarber is still a FA, Stroman, Bryant, Taylor, Marte, Rodon, Gray, and others.

 

Just because Bloom isn't striking first, doesn't mean he's losing the offseason.

[Old Red]

Still have Correa, Story and Siemon out there for up the middle, Freeman if you want a 1B. Schwarber is still a FA, Stroman, Bryant, Taylor, Marte, Rodon, Gray, and others.

 

Just because Bloom isn't striking first, doesn't mean he's losing the offseason.

 

Let’s sign Correa, and Freeman.

 

Raffy 3B

 

Correa SS

 

Bogey 2B

 

Freeman 1B

 

Good hitting infield.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Offseasons are obviously different now in Red Sox Nation. But that doesn't mean any poster is unreasonable -- not on a forum called talksox.

 

No one should be hammering any fans who drop names of free agents -- available stars who can improve MLB rosters. For most of us -- old folks who follow the Red Sox closely -- the big leaguers are the only players we actually know about.

 

It's rare for posters to crave the acquisition of some other franchise's callow minor leaguer who has one or two latent talents that young Chaim Bloom and his staff hope to gamble upon soon...

[Hugh2]

Correa I can get on board with, but Freeman, I think Dalbec looks good enough to wait for Casas mid 2022. You spend money on both Freeman and Correa then theres a good chance you lose both Devers/Bogaerts over the next year.

[Hugh2]

You better believe, Bogaerts, Devers and their agents are paying attention to what all these infielders are getting this year.

 

Bogaerts will around 300 million.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Correa I can get on board with, but Freeman, I think Dalbec looks good enough to wait for Casas mid 2022. You spend money on both Freeman and Correa then theres a good chance you lose both Devers/Bogaerts over the next year.

 

I agree with this, but hopefully the Sox intend on locking up Devers soon. If they don't at least try it will be very depressing for this fan. Not because Raffy is my favorite player, but if a rich club won't pay a young guy like that, then who? Of course, negotiations will be private, but PR is important for a devoted fan base.

[moonslav59]

We’ll Moon none of your Red Sox predictions have come true, or should I say wishes unless you want to take credit for Whacka. Some of the other teams are playing fantasy baseball, and the Sox are just sitting there watching these other teams get better with these outrageous contracts.

 

I'm not going to respond to anything you say.

 

Feel free to say whatever you want, but you're not getting any discussion from me.

 

(BTW, I never "predicted" any Bloom moves.)

 

Edited November 30, 2021 by moonslav59

[moonslav59]

Still have Correa, Story and Siemon out there for up the middle, Freeman if you want a 1B. Schwarber is still a FA, Stroman, Bryant, Taylor, Marte, Rodon, Gray, and others.

 

Just because Bloom isn't striking first, doesn't mean he's losing the offseason.

 

Scratch Semien, too.

[Old Red]

I'm not going to respond to anything you say.

 

Feel free to say whatever you want, but you're not getting any discussion from me.

 

 

Another plan comes together, and I don’t need any discussion from you, but I will be watching all your predictions that never come true.

[mvp 78]

Bloom was never going to splurge on a $43 million dollar pitcher or a $300 mil infielder (no matter how much "interest" is reported). But there's still time to be at least as good as last year -- on screen -- if he re-signs Schwarber and a good starting pitcher with no QO attached... Stroman? Rodon? Does anyone really believe any of those guys will be inked in Boston... by a CBO who doesn't sign guys for more than two years?

 

Me neither (is this just the wrong decade to join talksox?)...

 

The cost of good pitching in AAVs: Gausman $22M, Ray $23M, Verlander $25M. Stroman won't settle for less than fair market value, and he shouldn't. Rodon may have to, because of his injury-risks, but someone will pay him more than ERod. If Eovaldi has another solid showing in '22, is there any doubt he'll a $20M free agent starter in a year?

 

The ERod contract is looking really good right now.

[Hugh2]

The ERod contract is looking really good right now.

 

Yup, and imagine how it would have been perceived here if that was his extension?

[Old Red]

The ERod contract is looking really good right now.

 

And according to E Rod the Sox only made him the QO of $18M.

[mvp 78]

Am I the only one thinking Seager getting $325M/10 is insane?

 

I'm fine with players making a ton of money, but this one seems way out of whack.

 

He'll probably only play about 1,000 games. $300k per game seems pretty crazy IMO.

[Old Red]

Yup, and imagine how it would have been perceived here if that was his extension?

 

For under $20/5 to me would have been a good contract.

[mvp 78]

Not sure if the majority are still out there any more.

 

About 60 players have signed. About 250 are still unsigned. Hard to say what constitutes "high end."

[Old Red]

I'm not going to respond to anything you say.

 

Feel free to say whatever you want, but you're not getting any discussion from me.

 

(BTW, I never "predicted" any Bloom moves.)

 

 

As usual you don’t read further where I said wishes, and you have wished for a lot, and none have come true, because you keep ignoring Kennedy, and Blooms wishes, which come from J H.

[Hugh2]

For under $20/5 to me would have been a good contract.

 

And you would have overspent by 23 million dollars.

[Old Red]

And you would have overspent by 23 million dollars.

 

$77M was not a good contract?

[mvp 78]

Top names still available:

 

Freeman

Rizzo

Schwarber

Taylor

Cruz

Bryant

Soler

Pederson

Conforto

Raisel Iglesias

Stroman

Rodon

Kershaw

Greinke

Story

Correa

[moonslav59]

Another plan comes together, and I don’t need any discussion from you, but I will be watching all your predictions that never come true.

 

You mean "wishes?" (not predictions.)

 

What a clown.

[moonslav59]

The ERod contract is looking really good right now.

 

It does.

 

It also makes me think, we should have tried extra hard to lock up Devers.

[Old Red]

You mean "wishes?" (not predictions.)

 

What a clown.

 

Where is your list of what you have gotten right? Predictions, or wishes? I’m not in to name calling, but thanks for the kind words anyway.

[moonslav59]

Top names still available:

 

Freeman

Rizzo

Schwarber

Taylor

Cruz

Bryant

Soler

Pederson

Conforto

Raisel Iglesias

Stroman

Rodon

Kershaw

Greinke

Story

Correa

 

The list is dwindling.

 

When you take away positions we don't need, and guys like Correa, who will cost too much, who is left for the Sox?

[Old Red]

It does.

 

It also makes me think, we should have tried extra hard to lock up Devers.

 

How do you know they haven’t tried?

[Hugh2]

$77M was not a good contract?

 

Oh it was a great contract, at least on the surface. In a year from now it could be a horrible contract.

[Old Red]

Oh it was a great contract, at least on the surface. In a year from now it could be a horrible contract.

 

You always take a risk when you offer, or sign a contract. The Sox knew that Sale was hurt, but signed him to a contract anyways, and he sat out for a year, and a half. Look how Pedroia’s contract ended up. There is always a risk.

Edited November 30, 2021 by Old Red

[mvp 78]

The list is dwindling.

 

When you take away positions we don't need, and guys like Correa, who will cost too much, who is left for the Sox?

 

The Michael Wachas of the world.