July 17: BOS (Eovaldi) @ NYY (Cole)

[illinoisredsox]

The WEEI guys at one point, maybe 9:30, opined there might be something like clear-rain-clear, but it never happened. Besides, it's really really hard to predict gaps when you are in the middle a lot of rain clouds.

 

On the other hand, last night it sure looked to me as though Cole had absolutely no problem pitching in the rain, which was not true of Eovaldi (two HBP's and and a walk in 5 innings) and absolutely not true of Sawamura, who gave up 2 dingers in the 6th.

 

So maybe the Yankees anticipated that and used their home team perogative on when the game started to ensure everyone pitched in the rain. If they did, it worked like a charm. Don't forget that, once the game starts, the umpires control any other delays. They are, however, under immense pressure from MLB to push playing in the rain to the limit.

 

Cole had trouble in the 6th, when it really started coming down. He walked both Devers and Duran that inning sandwiched around an infield single. He was able to escape it.

 

Eovaldi really had no more trouble than Cole did. He actually threw more strikes in 5 innings than Coke did in 6.

 

Who knows what happens to Sawamura without the additional delay caused by the Verdugo incident.

 

Just a weird game.

[dgalehouse]

Cole had trouble in the 6th, when it really started coming down. He walked both Devers and Duran that inning sandwiched around an infield single. He was able to escape it.

 

Eovaldi really had no more trouble than Cole did. He actually threw more strikes in 5 innings than Coke did in 6.

 

Who knows what happens to Sawamura without the additional delay caused by the Verdugo incident.

 

Just a weird game.

A weird game , but kind of a fun one , in a weird kind of way. Reminiscent of some of the crazy Sox /Yankee games of the past. Obviously, it should have had a happier ending.

[Larry Cook]

MLB has to do a better job of protecting players before someone gets hurt!

 

There is no excuse for what happened and security had to be tightened at that Bronx brothel by the next game,

[Maxbialystock]

Cole had trouble in the 6th, when it really started coming down. He walked both Devers and Duran that inning sandwiched around an infield single. He was able to escape it.

 

Eovaldi really had no more trouble than Cole did. He actually threw more strikes in 5 innings than Coke did in 6.

 

Who knows what happens to Sawamura without the additional delay caused by the Verdugo incident.

 

Just a weird game.

 

I guess you could say Cole had trouble in the 6th, but in fact he got 3 strikeouts, the first two batters, Verdugo and JDM (in their 3d at bats against him), and then Vazquez for the final out.

 

Cole also had delays while he was pitching, so I think Sawamura simply had a tougher time dealing with the rain. Besides, two dingers back to back are pretty strong evidence the pitcher is struggling.

 

Despite my emphasis on the box score, which says the better pitcher won, I agree it was a weird game. Fox cameramen did a good job showing us the puddles of water on the field, which, I hasten to add, did not have much effect on the game outcome. Dalbec's bad throw could have been caused by the rain, but Hernandez miraculously caught it and managed to touch 2b before the runner did. There were also no egregiously bad plays in the outfield and in fact no errors.

[Bellhorn04]

I guess you could say Cole had trouble in the 6th, but in fact he got 3 strikeouts, the first two batters, Verdugo and JDM (in their 3d at bats against him), and then Vazquez for the final out.

 

Cole also had delays while he was pitching, so I think Sawamura simply had a tougher time dealing with the rain. Besides, two dingers back to back are pretty strong evidence the pitcher is struggling.

 

The relevant comparison was between Cole and Eovaldi though.

[Maxbialystock]

MLB has to do a better job of protecting players before someone gets hurt!

 

There is no excuse for what happened and security had to be tightened at that Bronx brothel by the next game,

 

I suppose. My guess is the rain made security less vigilant. That plus the WEEI guys say the fans probably drank a lot during the 50 min no rain rain delay.

[dgalehouse]

MLB has to do a better job of protecting players before someone gets hurt!

 

There is no excuse for what happened and security had to be tightened at that Bronx brothel by the next game,

 

" Bronx brothel " . I like that. Kind of catchy.

[Maxbialystock]

The relevant comparison was between Cole and Eovaldi though.

 

Yes indeed, and I thought Cole pitched the better game. Do I need to remind you that before the game and indeed before Friday night's game (and after the COVID news was out), talksox contributors couldn't resist crowing over how bad the Yankees lineup would be. Thus the shutout Friday night. Indeed, season to date, the Yankees offense (runs scored) is ranked next to last in the AL. So a lousy offense lost 2 of their better hitters right before this series.

 

Meanwhile, the Sox have the 2d (runs scored) or 5th (team OPS) best offense in the AL.

 

But to me the real grabber was how Cole completely dominated Devers and JDM and made them look like untried rookies. First inning, for example: Hernandez leads off with a double, Verdugo flies out on a great play by the Yankees leftfielder, and then JDM strikes out on 3 pitches followed by Devers in, what, 4 pitches, with a man on 2b. Either they are awful or Cole is a terrific pitcher--which do you think is true? And then the same dadgum thing happens in the 3d inning when Verdugo gets a single, JDM K's, Verdugo steals 2b, and Devers K's.

 

Eovaldi had almost a free ride going against a very weak Yankees lineup, but still managed to hit a couple guys and then give up that run in the 5th, which tied the game.

[Tedballgame]

That is total b.s. I lived in NYC for several years, and it's the only place I've lived where I was never the victim of any crime, never subject to verbal or physical abuse. It's a great place to live (or was, when it was still affordable).

 

Been there lately? Crime is out of control in NYC.

[moonslav59]

Been there lately? Crime is out of control in NYC.

 

Not even close to what it was in the 70s, 80’s & 90’s.

[d-money]

Not even close to what it was in the 70s, 80’s & 90’s.

 

Yup. Live through the 90s and it was terrible before giuliani showed up. The bail reform in the city is ridiculous right now. You have people out of jail who where in jail for attempted murder. Smh.

[d-money]

That is total b.s. I lived in NYC for several years, and it's the only place I've lived where I was never the victim of any crime, never subject to verbal or physical abuse. It's a great place to live (or was, when it was still affordable).

 

What part did you live? I mean the bronx and Brooklyn are in the news it seems everyday.

[Maxbialystock]

NYC has the 67th worst crime rate of the 100 biggest cities in the USA--as compiled by the FBI in 2017. This list does not include cities (like Boston) which simply didn't report any data to the FBI. Edited July 18, 2021 by Maxbialystock

[Bellhorn04]

But to me the real grabber was how Cole completely dominated Devers and JDM and made them look like untried rookies. First inning, for example: Hernandez leads off with a double, Verdugo flies out on a great play by the Yankees leftfielder, and then JDM strikes out on 3 pitches followed by Devers in, what, 4 pitches, with a man on 2b. Either they are awful or Cole is a terrific pitcher--which do you think is true?

 

What I would say is that Cole is a terrific pitcher who was on his game last night. Last time we faced him he was a terrific pitcher who was off his game, and we got 3 homers and 6 runs off him in 5 innings.

[d-money]

NYC has the 67th worst crime rate of the 100 biggest cities in the USA--as compiled by the FBI in 2017. This list does not include cities (like Boston) which simply didn't report any data to the FBI.

 

Well i feel safe where i am . Everything is gentrified. That’s not bad for a city of 8 million people.

[bkzwhitestrican]

I think the biggest concern in NYC right now is the increase in violent crimes. Like any major city there's always going to be crime, especially in areas with low income and government housing. That increase is certainly affecting those areas but is also spilling into other neighborhoods and is happening at all times of the day. I think you'd have to be either blind or willfully ignorant to say there isn't a problem. People are being pushed onto the subway, robbed and beaten, and shot at in broad daylight on a daily basis. Three weeks ago I went to the new Krispy Kreme near midtown and somebody got shot one block away. It was like 4pm.

[Maxbialystock]

Bellhorn04: I agree.

[d-money]

Time for the Sox to bring that offense tonight! Win the series plz! Both the rays and blue jays won.

[d-money]

Well that sucked. Need good perez.

[d-money]

Good first inning for perez. Get those bats going!!!

[Tedballgame]

NYC has the 67th worst crime rate of the 100 biggest cities in the USA--as compiled by the FBI in 2017. This list does not include cities (like Boston) which simply didn't report any data to the FBI.

 

2017 is not relevant to today. Violent crime in NYC is out of control. Its not safe.

 

Crime rose by 30.4% in April 2021 compared to April 2020, an NYPD report released Wednesday said.

 

NYC mom of 2 gunned down at vigil for friend killed under 24 hours before

Police said the greatest increases came in shootings, which were up 166%—149 in April 2021, compared to 56 in April 2020. Police also noted that grand larcenies were up 66%, felony assaults grew by 35.6%, and robberies increased by 28.6%.

 

Other crimes that were up from last year included murder (at 44 versus 38) and rape (at 110 versus 72). Incidents of hate crimes against Asian Americans—which have taken the spotlight in recent months—were also up 400% in April, an increase of 64 from this time last year. Crimes committed in public housing were up 46.3%.

[jad]

Gee. I wonder why there were fewer crimes in NYC in 2020 than in 2021. This is going to be really hard to figure. (Also, when you are quoting paragraphs of a news source directly, as you do above, you really ought to acknowledge it.)

[Tedballgame]

Gee. I wonder why there were fewer crimes in NYC in 2020 than in 2021. This is going to be really hard to figure. (Also, when you are quoting paragraphs of a news source directly, as you do above, you really ought to acknowledge it.)

 

Its not a term paper!

[Maxbialystock]

2017 is not relevant to today. Violent crime in NYC is out of control. Its not safe.

 

Crime rose by 30.4% in April 2021 compared to April 2020, an NYPD report released Wednesday said.

 

NYC mom of 2 gunned down at vigil for friend killed under 24 hours before

Police said the greatest increases came in shootings, which were up 166%—149 in April 2021, compared to 56 in April 2020. Police also noted that grand larcenies were up 66%, felony assaults grew by 35.6%, and robberies increased by 28.6%.

 

Other crimes that were up from last year included murder (at 44 versus 38) and rape (at 110 versus 72). Incidents of hate crimes against Asian Americans—which have taken the spotlight in recent months—were also up 400% in April, an increase of 64 from this time last year. Crimes committed in public housing were up 46.3%.

 

Excuse me. Did you just compare April 2020 to April 2021 as proof that NYC is going down the tubes crime-wise? My guess, without any data, is that April 2020 was very possibly a record low because of COVID.

 

Get back to me when you have annual stats for NYC for either 2020 or 2021 so we can compare them to 2017. I have a subscription to the NY Times and have not read anything about this humoungous crime spree. Did they get rid of their city/local section?