Red Sox Expected To Promote Jarren Duran

[notin]

Kike will probably play LF or CF vs LHP, with either Verdugo or Duran sitting, depending on who’s slumping more.

 

Vs RHP, I’d like Kike at 1b, but that remains to be seen…

 

Also it appears Cordero has 4 games and 29 innings under his belt as the Worcester 1b. Let’s see how this plays out…

[mvp 78]

Also it appears Cordero has 4 games and 29 innings under his belt as the Worcester 1b. Let’s see how this plays out…

 

661 OPS in July with 18 K's.

[mvp 78]

Santana can be released. Chavis can be demoted. But Marwin has played some quality glove this season…

 

Marwin has great value on a playoff team. For an also ran, you can DFA.

[mvp 78]

@ChrisCotillo

Cora on Duran: "We'll protect him..." though notes he might not always start against tough LHPs despite the splits at AAA.

 

"Against righties, he's a full-go.... another LHH in the bottom of the lineup is going to help us out."

 

Cora says "there's no perfect timing" on when to call up someone like Duran. Says the club has been talking about it for a while and thinks he can help now.

 

Sox will use Duran in CF, RF, LF. "We'll move him around... whatever we need that day."

[notin]

661 OPS in July with 18 K's.

 

Duran was .594 in July with 10Ks in 34 PA and he got promoted…

[iortiz]

@ChrisCotillo

Cora on Duran: "We'll protect him..." though notes he might not always start against tough LHPs despite the splits at AAA.

 

"Against righties, he's a full-go.... another LHH in the bottom of the lineup is going to help us out."

 

Cora says "there's no perfect timing" on when to call up someone like Duran. Says the club has been talking about it for a while and thinks he can help now.

 

Sox will use Duran in CF, RF, LF. "We'll move him around... whatever we need that day."

 

Seems he will take a platoon role.

[mvp 78]

Duran was .594 in July with 10Ks in 34 PA and he got promoted…

 

DFA him now!

[Hugh2]

Duran was .594 in July with 10Ks in 34 PA and he got promoted…

 

34 PA's is a small sample size. How do we know he didn't crush 8 balls right at someone? Also if the Red Sox deem him ready, if he's in a mini-slump that doesn't make someone more or less ready.

[Hugh2]

Ironically, most of the people being 'bashed' for saying Duran wouldn't come up this year were ACTUALLY saying he wouldn't come up until later in the year.................which is exactly what happened.

[notin]

34 PA's is a small sample size. How do we know he didn't crush 8 balls right at someone? Also if the Red Sox deem him ready, if he's in a mini-slump that doesn't make someone more or less ready.

 

You had to follow the whole back and forth, Hugh..,

[a700hitter]

Also it appears Cordero has 4 games and 29 innings under his belt as the Worcester 1b. Let’s see how this plays out…

Cordero reminds me of Wily Mo Pena, a guy with great tools and a great athletic body, but Pena was an All Star in comparison.

[Hugh2]

You had to follow the whole back and forth, Hugh..,

 

Fair.

[Maxbialystock]

Ironically, most of the people being 'bashed' for saying Duran wouldn't come up this year were ACTUALLY saying he wouldn't come up until later in the year.................which is exactly what happened.

 

I honestly don't recall much bashing, but rather an earnest debate. I like our current outfield of Verdugo, Hernandez, and Renfroe, all of whom are better fielders than Duran and all of whom have shown they can hit MLB pitching (even though Verdugo is backsliding lately), which Duran has yet to do.

 

Like others, I also fall back on agreeing with whatever Bloom/Cora decide. As soon as they decided to bring him up, I was completely on board.

 

As others have seen better than I, there are a lot of angles to any moves made.

[Hugh2]

I honestly don't recall much bashing, but rather an earnest debate. I like our current outfield of Verdugo, Hernandez, and Renfroe, all of whom are better fielders than Duran and all of whom have shown they can hit MLB pitching (even though Verdugo is backsliding lately), which Duran has yet to do.

 

Like others, I also fall back on agreeing with whatever Bloom/Cora decide. As soon as they decided to bring him up, I was completely on board.

 

As others have seen better than I, there are a lot of angles to any moves made.

 

That’s fair, and a point I’d always try to stress when people demand promotions solely by scouting box scores. Teams have a standard ideal of where a guy has to be to become MLB ready, and it doesn’t all show up in the box score.

[Behindenemylines]

@ChrisCotillo

Cora on Duran: "We'll protect him..." though notes he might not always start against tough LHPs despite the splits at AAA.

 

"Against righties, he's a full-go.... another LHH in the bottom of the lineup is going to help us out."

 

Cora says "there's no perfect timing" on when to call up someone like Duran. Says the club has been talking about it for a while and thinks he can help now.

 

Sox will use Duran in CF, RF, LF. "We'll move him around... whatever we need that day."

 

Single and a walk against “Spider Tact”, Duran and his speed in there against all righties is a big yes. Has a Ellsbury feel to it.

[Larry Cook]

Maybe we can get some dry weather so we can see his speed on the base pads.

[moonslav59]

Single and a walk against “Spider Tact”, Duran and his speed in there against all righties is a big yes. Has a Ellsbury feel to it.

 

If hoping for better than Ells.

[Maxbialystock]

Maybe we can get some dry weather so we can see his speed on the base pads.

 

He looked pretty good scoring from 2b last night despite the rain.

Edited July 18, 2021 by Maxbialystock

[Maxbialystock]

If hoping for better than Ells.

 

In the year he first came up (late in the 2007 season), Ellsbury was a better fielder than Duran, probably better on the basepaths, and had an OPS of over .900. Back then the Sox liked stealing bases, but no longer. Duran is very likely to have more power and will probably be a better overall hitter than Ellsbury, but I have my doubts about his range and arm in the outfield. Ellsbury had a crappy arm too, but became a pretty good outfielder. I do not see how it is even remotely possible Duran will be as injury prone as Ellsbury.

 

So, yeah, better.

[Maxbialystock]

If Duran can keep looking like last night, I expect Hernandez to replace Dalbec at 1b as soon as Bogey can return to SS. Hernandez is obviously a better centerfielder than Duran, but he is also almost certainly a better firstbaseman than Dalbec as well as a better hitter.

[moonslav59]

In the year he first came up (late in the 2007 season), Ellsbury was a better fielder than Duran, probably better on the basepaths, and had an OPS of over .900. Back then the Sox liked stealing bases, but no longer. Duran is very likely to have more power and will probably be a better overall hitter than Ellsbury, but I have my doubts about his range and arm in the outfield. Ellsbury had a crappy arm too, but became a pretty good outfielder. I do not see how it is even remotely possible Duran will be as injury prone as Ellsbury.

 

So, yeah, better.

 

It took Ellsbury years to be a plus defender. I’m hoping Duran does better or improves more quickly.

 

Ellsbury’s first season was a small sample size, and it was years before he had that wild outlier season.

 

The rest of the time, he was mostly 5th to 8th in OPS on the team.

 

I’m not just hoping Duran does better: I think he will.

[Maxbialystock]

It took Ellsbury years to be a plus defender. I’m hoping Duran does better or improves more quickly.

 

Ellsbury’s first season was a small sample size, and it was years before he had that wild outlier season.

 

The rest of the time, he was mostly 5th to 8th in OPS on the team.

 

I’m not just hoping Duran does better: I think he will.

 

Agree on all, especially that 2011 was an outlier season for Ellsbury. It caused the Yankees to pay way too much for him because he never came anywhere near those numbers in the years that followed.

[Bellhorn04]

Agree on all, especially that 2011 was an outlier season for Ellsbury. It caused the Yankees to pay way too much for him because he never came anywhere near those numbers in the years that followed.

 

Although it was after the 2013 season that the Yankees signed him.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

It took Ellsbury years to be a plus defender. I’m hoping Duran does better or improves more quickly.

 

Ellsbury’s first season was a small sample size, and it was years before he had that wild outlier season.

 

The rest of the time, he was mostly 5th to 8th in OPS on the team.

 

I’m not just hoping Duran does better: I think he will.

 

Ellsbury was an opposite field hitter with little power when he came up in '07, but a sparkplug -- especially on the bases. His D was dubious enough (based on metrics, I'd guess) that Theo thought it'd be better to sign 37-year-old Mike Cameron to play center in 2010 -- four years into Ells' MLB career... though Darnell McDonald ultimately started the most games in CF that season.

 

Ellsbury's biggest asset was stealing bases -- leading the AL three times and setting the Red Sox all-time single-season record -- so he could get closer to scoring runs. In his four full seasons in Boston, he averaged 100 runs scored (we should be ecstatic if Duran could do that for half a decade).

[moonslav59]

I was thrilled when the Yanks signed Ellsbury. Back then, I said I would not have paid him half that contract.

 

I don’t want to ever think that way about Duran, nor do I expect to.

[Maxbialystock]

Although it was after the 2013 season that the Yankees signed him.

 

So true. In 2012 he had another injury-plagued season and in 2013 a bonafide, this is the real Ellsbury season with a .781 OPS (his career OPS is .760). Just shows how desperate the Yankees were to replace Cano's bat.

[Maxbialystock]

Tonight's game suggests--only that--that one guy can't fix the Sox pitching and hitting issues.

[mvp 78]

Tonight's game suggests--only that--that one guy can't fix the Sox pitching and hitting issues.

 

Maybe if he at least got on base?

[Larry Cook]

I was thrilled when the Yanks signed Ellsbury. Back then, I said I would not have paid him half that contract.

 

I don’t want to ever think that way about Duran, nor do I expect to.

 

I do not see hang’em Chaim being foolish with second contracts, unless they are organizational cornerstones, like bogey and devers!

 

I think he lets other teams over pay for less than the best or promotes guys from our minor league system that do he can get most of the production back.

 

Ps: Betts (an organizational cornerstone) was an exception because desperate Dave screwed us up on the luxury tax!

[Swiharts Ghost]

I do not see hang’em Chaim being foolish with second contracts, unless they are organizational cornerstones, like bogey and devers!

 

I think he lets other teams over pay for less than the best or promotes guys from our minor league system that do he can get most of the production back.

 

Ps: Betts (an organizational cornerstone) was an exception because desperate Dave screwed us up on the luxury tax!

 

Verdugo is not the player I was hoping for ...we basically got a lesser power bat than Benny and a slightly better fielder ? I’m trading this kid to Cleveland for pitching if they bite and not looking back .i happen to miss Benny he was class personified this guy ??? Not so much .if Cleveland is dumb enough to trade an Ace for this kid I’d jump .

Edited July 19, 2021 by Swiharts Ghost