A Realistic View at 2021: Part II

[mvp 78]

If that’s the case, demote Duran for a month and let him play daily. Franchy Cordero can handle the limited role stuff.

 

And go get Schoop!!

 

Sounds good to me.

[mvp 78]

And bring Duran back to 2b?

 

No, Downs is playing there right now. Duran can play CF in WOO just fine.

[mvp 78]

Schwarber is also a good post season hitter. .981 OPS.

 

Is Pablo Sandoval still available?

[notin]

Sounds good to me.

 

And a starter. I prefer Berrios, but I can be on board with Hendricks. And a few others…

[notin]

Is Pablo Sandoval still available?

 

Perenially

[notin]

No, Downs is playing there right now. Duran can play CF in WOO just fine.

 

Today might be Downs’ last day in the Sox organization…

[mvp 78]

Today might be Downs’ last day in the Sox organization…

 

Great idea to sell low on him.

[mvp 78]

And a starter. I prefer Berrios, but I can be on board with Hendricks. And a few others…

 

Yes, there is a group of them bunched together.

[notin]

Great idea to sell low on him.

 

1) It’s not selling low if he gets something of equal or better value

 

2) It’s not selling low if he doesn’t turn it around.

 

3) I do think he’s ready most likely to be moved from the Sox top tier of prospects. Unless Bloom has a different view of Casas, which is possible. He might not like one-dimensional prospects as much…

[notin]

I suppose there is a possibility the Sox acquired Schwarber for LF because Duran’s name kept coming up in talks for Berrios.

 

Don’t misunderstand. With no evidence, I’m 100% certain Duran’s name came up in talks for Berrios. My speculation is that those talks might be connected to acquiring Schwarber…

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

In the absence of me being wrong he plays LF, Verdugo goes to the center and Kike plays 2B. Duran becomes your 4th outfielder/pinch runner.

 

Or Duran gets optioned to Worcester where he can play everyday.

[Bellhorn04]

I suppose there is a possibility the Sox acquired Schwarber for LF because Duran’s name kept coming up in talks for Berrios.

 

Don’t misunderstand. With no evidence, I’m 100% certain Duran’s name came up in talks for Berrios. My speculation is that those talks might be connected to acquiring Schwarber…

 

That's a reasonable speculation.

[moonslav59]

OPS of 513. 32.4 k%.

 

He's had flashes, but hasn't really been that good.

 

I hope you are being sarcastic.

[Bellhorn04]

I hope you are being sarcastic.

 

He's not. It's a tiny sample, but how much patience do you have with a kid at this time of year?

[moonslav59]

I suppose there is a possibility the Sox acquired Schwarber for LF because Duran’s name kept coming up in talks for Berrios.

 

Don’t misunderstand. With no evidence, I’m 100% certain Duran’s name came up in talks for Berrios. My speculation is that those talks might be connected to acquiring Schwarber…

 

I mentioned this, last night.

 

It makes a lot of sense, in terms of positioning and trying to win in 2021 while having both Berrios & Schwarber for 2022, as well. (Improving the chance at extending one or both, too.)

[moonslav59]

He's not. It's a tiny sample, but how much patience do you have with a kid at this time of year?

 

It's not about that. You don't "DFA" anyone with promise, unless you have to, and we have 8 guys to DFA before Cordero or Dalbec. (Both hold trade value, even if not much.)

[mvp 78]

He's not. It's a tiny sample, but how much patience do you have with a kid at this time of year?

 

That's the question, right? If this is what he is for the next 50 ab's, maybe he needs to be in AAA for now? If they aren't in the playoff hunt, you just start him everyday in CF.

[mvp 78]

It's not about that. You don't "DFA" anyone with promise, unless you have to, and we have 8 guys to DFA before Cordero or Dalbec. (Both hold trade value, even if not much.)

 

Who is it that has promise? Cordero?

[moonslav59]

Who is it that has promise? Cordero?

 

Cordero still has a lot of promise, as does Dalbec.

 

Demoting them is fine. DFA'ing them, instead of trading them is ghostlike.

[Bellhorn04]

It's not about that. You don't "DFA" anyone with promise, unless you have to, and we have 8 guys to DFA before Cordero or Dalbec. (Both hold trade value, even if not much.)

 

Who said anything about DFA'ing Duran?

[moonslav59]

That's the question, right? If this is what he is for the next 50 ab's, maybe he needs to be in AAA for now? If they aren't in the playoff hunt, you just start him everyday in CF.

 

Wow. 37 PAs- scattered and chopped up.

 

Brutal.

 

Glad you weren't the GM when JBJ and Pedey came up, or when Renfroe started out slowly, this April. Or, Josh Taylor, or _____.

[moonslav59]

Who said anything about DFA'ing Duran?

 

I was talking about his DFA Cordero comment.

[Bellhorn04]

I was talking about his DFA Cordero comment.

 

You got your posts mixed up though. We were talking about Duran's .513 OPS.

[mvp 78]

Cordero still has a lot of promise, as does Dalbec.

 

Demoting them is fine. DFA'ing them, instead of trading them is ghostlike.

 

Cordero isn't worth keeping on the 40 man. That is my opinion. It's fine if you DFA him.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Call me crazy but I would rather protect K.Crawford on the 40 man than Cordero or Dalbec. And if I were running a team and making a trade with the Red Sox, I would be more interested in acquiring K.Crawford over Cordero or Dalbec. I would also prefer A.Scherff over Cordero and Dalbec.

 

I just don't like the hit tools of Cordero and Dalbec. And Cordero doesn't play quality defense anywhere. Dalbec is a little more interesting because he can play 3b, but I don't want his pathetic hit tool on my roster.

[mvp 78]

Wow. 37 PAs- scattered and chopped up.

 

Brutal.

 

Glad you weren't the GM when JBJ and Pedey came up, or when Renfroe started out slowly, this April. Or, Josh Taylor, or _____.

It took how many years for JBJ to be an everyday player. Laughable. https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jackie-bradley-jr/12984/stats?position=OF

 

Pedroia came up and sucked s*** in 2006. Sox ended that year 11 games back.

 

Like I said, the Sox are in the playoff hunt this year. You don't mess around at the end of the year with this crap. If he's not ready, he's not ready. Let him be ready for April 1 when there is time for him to adjust.

 

If you don't want to read my entire post, go for it.

[mvp 78]

Call me crazy but I would rather protect K.Crawford on the 40 man than Cordero or Dalbec. And if I were running a team and making a trade with the Red Sox, I would be more interested in acquiring K.Crawford over Cordero or Dalbec. I would also prefer A.Scherff over Cordero and Dalbec.

 

I just don't like the hit tools of Cordero and Dalbec. And Cordero doesn't play quality defense anywhere. Dalbec is a little more interesting because he can play 3b, but I don't want his pathetic hit tool on my roster.

 

Kutter is definitely in the conversation. I'd take him over Cordero. Dalbec? Not sure. I think there is still high upside on Dalbec. He just needs to take walks like he did in MiLB. BB% of 5 isn't cutting it. Get it to 12-15%.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I was thinking that the Red Sox might trade for a starting 1b, and play Kyle S. in LF, and, yes, use Duran as the 4th outfielder the rest of the way. It is quite possible that is the plan, but to see evidence of that plan we would need to see the Red Sox obtain a starting 1b today. If they don't obtain a starting 1b, we can safely assume Kyle S. will play the position and Duran will continue to play in CF.

 

I think Duran continues to play and that Kyle S. was acquired for 1b. The key point here is that by upgrading the offense at 1b, the Red Sox can simply drop Duran down to the ninth spot, they don't need him in that second spot anymore. Duran may struggle but he can survive as the ninth hitter. Even though he is struggling, he can help you with his amazing speed, and he has proven that so far. Thus, I think the Red Sox will keep playing Duran but they will bat him ninth and the acquisition of Kyle S. allows the Red Sox to move Duran down the order.

[mvp 78]

I was thinking that the Red Sox might trade for a starting 1b, and play Kyle S. in LF, and, yes, use Duran as the 4th outfielder the rest of the way. It is quite possible that is the plan, but to see evidence of that plan we would need to see the Red Sox obtain a starting 1b today. If they don't obtain a starting 1b, we can safely assume Kyle S. will play the position and Duran will continue to play in CF.

 

I think Duran continues to play and that Kyle S. was acquired for 1b. The key point here is that by upgrading the offense at 1b, the Red Sox can simply drop Duran down to the ninth spot, they don't need him in that second spot anymore. Duran may struggle but he can survive as the ninth hitter. Even though he is struggling, he can help you with his amazing speed, and he has proven that so far. Thus, I think the Red Sox will keep playing Duran but they will bat him ninth and the acquisition of Kyle S. allows the Red Sox to move Duran down the order.

 

Right now, we only have some of the information. Until we know all the deals, we're just spitballing at what the plans could be.

[mvp 78]

And as for Cordero, he absolutely sucked at the beginning of the year. He was sent to AAA and mashed. Over time, his k rate started creeping up again in AAA and his k rate was 34% of his last 30 games. Until he shows in game power, those k numbers just aren't good. The HR's at Polar Park can be completely discounted for LHB's. Since being promoted, he's had a 36% k rate and 0 XBH. He's putting the ball in play, but it's not really showing me much we didn't see before.