A Realistic View at 2021: Part II

[moonslav59]

Andrew Cashner in 2019!

 

Every deal made during 2019 Trade Deadline season

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July 31: Astros acquire RHP Zack Greinke and cash from Diamondbacks for 1B/OF Seth Beer, RHP Corbin Martin, RHP J.B. Bukauskas, and INF/OF Josh Rojas The Astros pulled off a stunning blockbuster at the Trade Deadline buzzer, scoring D-backs ace Zack Greinke for a package of four prospects in Beer

 

Is there really nobody better?

[oldtimer]

Is there really nobody better?

 

Who will the Sox call up with Santana with a groin pull tonight?

[Nick]

Who will the Sox call up with Santana with a groin pull tonight?

 

I vote for Cordero.

[harmony]

Is there really nobody better?

Last year saw Taijuan Walker, Robbie Ray and Mike Minor as rentals.

[Larry Cook]

Wilson and castellaneous pulled from their minor league games tonight.

 

Is something happening?

[harmony]

Wilson and castellaneous pulled from their minor league games tonight.

 

Is something happening?

[moonslav59]

11 HRs in the last 2 games.

 

Kike's OPS is now up to .783.

Renfroe to .780.

Devers .924.

JD up to .953.

 

Will Kike pass Arroyo's .792, tomorrow? The guy was at .660 on June 19th, and posters were writing him off as a bad signing just 1/4th of the way through his contract.

 

He was at .720 June 29th

.740 July 8th (10 days later)

.744 July 17th

 

Last 2 games:

5 for 9 with 2BB (On base 7 of 11)

3 HR

2 2B

5 RBI

 

Kike da man!

 

His great defense has been revealed.

[moonslav59]

Sox back to the top of the AL.(Tied with CWS)

 

58-38 BOS

58-38 CWS

 

59-39 HOU

 

57-39 TBR (-1.0 ALE)

 

55-42 OAK (2nd WC leader +3.5)

 

50-44 NYY -3.5 2nd WC slot

51-45 SEA -3.5

 

48-44 TOR -4.5

 

48-45 CLE -5.0

 

 

NL

59-35 SFG

59-37 LAD (-1.0 NLW/ 1st WC)

56-41 MIL

56-42 SDP (2nd WC +6.0)

50-43 NYM

 

49-47 CIN -6.0 WC

47-47 PHI -7.0 WC but -3.5 NLE

(ATL -4.5 NLE)

(WSH -6.0 NLE)

[moonslav59]

The Sox now have 7 batters over .750, despite Renfroe and Verdugo tredning the wrong way.

 

The BID THREE!

.953 JD (the man on top)

.924 Devers (forevers- lock him up!)

.909 Bogey (battling an injury- gutting it out)

 

Gotta stay solid!

.792 Arroyo (gotta stay healthy!)

.783 Kike (Man on Fire!)

.780 Renfroe (Jacks only)

.751 Verdugo (Long slump)

 

Need 1or 2 to rise up!

.677 Plawecki

.661 Dalbec

.650 Vaz

 

Desperation time!

.582 Marwin

.574 Chavis

.554 Santana

.501 Cordero

.647 Duran (tiny sample size)

[oldtimer]

The Sox now have 7 batters over .750, despite Renfroe and Verdugo tredning the wrong way.

 

The BID THREE!

.953 JD (the man on top)

.924 Devers (forevers- lock him up!)

.909 Bogey (battling an injury- gutting it out)

 

Gotta stay solid!

.792 Arroyo (gotta stay healthy!)

.783 Kike (Man on Fire!)

.780 Renfroe (Jacks only)

.751 Verdugo (Long slump)

 

Need 1or 2 to rise up!

.677 Plawecki

.661 Dalbec

.650 Vaz

 

Desperation time!

.582 Marwin

.574 Chavis

.554 Santana

.501 Cordero

.647 Duran (tiny sample size)

The experiment with Arroyo at 1st base was a costly one.

[Nick]

Franchy Cordero could return to Boston Red Sox on Thursday as Danny Santana (left groin) likely will be placed on IL

 

Why not?

[notin]

Wilson and castellaneous pulled from their minor league games tonight.

 

Is something happening?

 

Minor leaguers get pulled from the starting lineup every day. But in July, this suddenly becomes big news..

 

One tip - if it’s Marcus Wilson being pulled, don’t get too worked up. Any trade involving him is not likely to be a blockbuster…

[mvp 78]

Minor leaguers get pulled from the starting lineup every day. But in July, this suddenly becomes big news..

 

One tip - if it’s Marcus Wilson being pulled, don’t get too worked up. Any trade involving him is not likely to be a blockbuster…

 

That Castellanos/Cannon deal is going to be yuuuge...

[Fan_since_Boggs]

My guess: Lineup against LH starter (tonight)

Hernandez CF

Bogaerts SS

Devers 3b

Martinez DH

Renfroe RF

Vazquez C

Duran LF

Dalbec 1b

Chavis 2b

 

My guess: Lineup against RH starter:

Hernandez 2b

Duran CF

Bogaerts SS

Devers 3b

Martinez DH

Verdugo LF

Renfroe RF

Cordero 1b

Vazquez C

 

BTW, it might make sense to promote M.Wilson as some point and platoon Wilson with Verdugo, with Wilson starting in LF against lefties. Verdugo has been so terrible against lefties that it may be time to do something like that. Of course, the Red Sox will need to find the roster space for Wilson, who hits lefties really well (based on AAA numbers).

Edited July 22, 2021 by Fan_since_Boggs

[moonslav59]

My guess: Lineup against LH starter (tonight)

Hernandez CF

Bogaerts SS

Devers 3b

Martinez DH

Renfroe RF

Vazquez C

Duran LF

Dalbec 1b

Chavis 2b

 

My guess: Lineup against RH starter:

Hernandez 2b

Duran CF

Bogaerts SS

Devers 3b

Martinez DH

Verdugo LF

Renfroe RF

Cordero 1b

Vazquez C

 

BTW, it might make sense to promote M.Wilson as some point and platoon Wilson with Verdugo, with Wilson starting in LF against lefties. Verdugo has been so terrible against lefties that it may be time to do something like that. Of course, the Red Sox will need to find the roster space for Wilson, who hits lefties really well (based on AAA numbers).

 

They can demote a pitcher.

[notin]

That Castellanos/Cannon deal is going to be yuuuge...

 

It could only be for Berrios…

[mvp 78]

It could only be for Berrios…

 

Anything else would be a massive overpay.

[notin]

Anything else would be a massive overpay.

 

Also worth noting, both Cannon and Castellanos would be more famous with the first name “Nick”…

[Kimmi]

What if it's short term big spending? Something you can get out of in 2-3 years?

 

This is my preference. I would rather pay a higher AAV for fewer years than the other way around. I'm good with 2-3 year deals, even if we overpay a little in dollars.

[mvp 78]

This is my preference. I would rather pay a higher AAV for fewer years than the other way around. I'm good with 2-3 year deals, even if we overpay a little in dollars.

 

It seems like a more sound financial decision to really overpay for 2-3 years than to kinda overpay for 8 years.

[Kimmi]

I get that, but almost $53M over is not something to emulate.

 

To be highly competitive, next year, they will likely have to spend large, again.

 

No doubt, I wouldn't want to go over by $53M, nor would I have ever signed Mookie to that deal.

 

I'm talking about their general philosophy. They have sustainability, financial flexibility, and a strong farm. Yes, that's the model that I hope Bloom emulates.

[Kimmi]

Will the Sox pick up Richard's $10M club option for 2022? Or will they use the same strategy as they did with Perez and attempt to re-sign for less money?

 

What is his market value? Can he get a multiple year contract?

 

I suppose what he does for remainder of season will tell.

 

We will have to wait to see how he performs the remainder of the season. He seems to be reinventing himself to some degree of success so far. He pitched well through 5 innings last night, against a very tough line up. The 3rd time through the order is a very real thing for starter.

[Kimmi]

Next year, you could have Seabold/Whitlock/Houck/Pivetta all trying to be squeezed into the rotation. If ERod doesn't re-sign, that would leave 4 guys scrambling for 2 spots.

 

Sale

Eovaldi

Free Agent

Whitlock

Houck

 

As the saying goes, you can never have enough pitching.

[mvp 78]

As the saying goes, you can never have enough pitching.

 

I agree, but I'm not sure Perez is worth 6M. I know Richards is NOT worth 10M.

[Kimmi]

Franchy Cordero could return to Boston Red Sox on Thursday as Danny Santana (left groin) likely will be placed on IL

 

Why not?

 

I agree, but he's also cooled off a bit lately.

 

Who else makes sense?

[Kimmi]

It seems like a more sound financial decision to really overpay for 2-3 years than to kinda overpay for 8 years.

 

Absolutely. You're not going to sign the Mookie Betts of the world, but you can get very, very good second tier type players.

[Kimmi]

I agree, but I'm not sure Perez is worth 6M. I know Richards is NOT worth 10M.

 

There may or may not be a better pitcher than Perez available for $6M, but that price is really not unreasonable.

 

As of now, I agree on Richards.

[moonslav59]

This is my preference. I would rather pay a higher AAV for fewer years than the other way around. I'm good with 2-3 year deals, even if we overpay a little in dollars.

 

That's why I think we will sign an older pitcher to big money but just 1-3 years.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The experiment with Arroyo at 1st base was a costly one.

 

Arroyo will get injured no matter what position he plays, probably even DH.

[moonslav59]

There may or may not be a better pitcher than Perez available for $6M, but that price is really not unreasonable.

 

As of now, I agree on Richards.

 

Perez has had 4 bad starts out of 19.