2021 Prospects

[moonslav59]

IDK, so many prospects just flame out. That's why you hoard as many as possible.

 

I get that, and I think I was just hoping more from these guys we got via trades, since that is what Bloom is famous for doing.

[mvp 78]

Rosario had a 782 OPS in August. I think missing out on 2020 really hurt a lot of these guys. He's a career 700 OPS guys so it's not like he has a huge ceiling.

 

Potts has taken a step backwards, but was injured at the start of the season and is still only 22.

 

German has been taken out of the pen. His last two appearances have been in relief: 2 innings, 4k, 0h, 0bb, 0r. (SoxProspects had him projected as a middle reliever anyway.)

 

Wallace had only played short season ball before this year and missed out last year. In August: 0.92 WHIP. He has 20 k's in his last 11 innings to only 4 bb's.

[mvp 78]

Yorke's 1219 OPS in Greenville is just hilarious.

 

OPS by month:

May 483

June 953

July 966

August 1352

Sept 1196

[moonslav59]

Rosario had a 782 OPS in August. I think missing out on 2020 really hurt a lot of these guys. He's a career 700 OPS guys so it's not like he has a huge ceiling.

 

Potts has taken a step backwards, but was injured at the start of the season and is still only 22.

 

German has been taken out of the pen. His last two appearances have been in relief: 2 innings, 4k, 0h, 0bb, 0r. (SoxProspects had him projected as a middle reliever anyway.)

 

Wallace had only played short season ball before this year and missed out last year. In August: 0.92 WHIP. He has 20 k's in his last 11 innings to only 4 bb's.

 

Rosario's big plus was defense, right?

[mvp 78]

Rosario's big plus was defense, right?

 

Plus: plate discipline, arm, speed

Plus Plus: range and glove (highlight reel)

[moonslav59]

Plus: plate discipline, arm, speed

Plus Plus: range and glove (highlight reel)

 

His defense was why I was very high on him, when we traded for him. I guess his lack of offense, this year, should not have surprised me.

 

Maybe he just needs to be a .720-.750 OF'er to stick around.

[mvp 78]

His defense was why I was very high on him, when we traded for him. I guess his lack of offense, this year, should not have surprised me.

 

Maybe he just needs to be a .720-.750 OF'er to stick around.

 

The problem is that he's already on the 40 man. You can't hide a bunch of guys on there for a few years.

 

Jay Groome: 2 years away?

 

Brian Mata: No timetable?? (They won't 60 day IL him for service time reasons)

 

Hudson Potts: 40 man casualty this offseason?

 

Rosario: give him one more year to figure it out?

[moonslav59]

The problem is that he's already on the 40 man. You can't hide a bunch of guys on there for a few years.

 

Jay Groome: 2 years away?

 

Brian Mata: No timetable?? (They won't 60 day IL him for service time reasons)

 

Hudson Potts: 40 man casualty this offseason?

 

Rosario: give him one more year to figure it out?

 

I projected Potts and Rosario as rule 5 or FA addition DFA top candidates.

[mvp 78]

I projected Potts and Rosario as rule 5 or FA addition DFA top candidates.

 

Every offseason we kept predicting Marcus Wilson would be DFA'd too. It took a lot longer than any of us expected.

[moonslav59]

Every offseason we kept predicting Marcus Wilson would be DFA'd too. It took a lot longer than any of us expected.

 

Got that right. Then, when nobody expected it, poof, he was gone.

[Larry Cook]

Tonight cassas is 3 for 3 with 2 taters snd 5 RBI’s thus far!

 

Yorke is 2 for 2. He is amazing!

[moonslav59]

Our farm is really taking shape.

 

It's fun to get to see them play in September, for once.

[Larry Cook]

Cassas with another tater in game 2 tonight!

[mvp 78]

OPS back up to 835.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Casas' 3 HRs yesterday traveled over a quarter mile. I'm not saying bring him up, but at least don't trade him.

[Bellhorn04]

Casas' 3 HRs yesterday traveled over a quarter mile. I'm not saying bring him up, but at least don't trade him.

 

They're not trading him.

[moonslav59]

We've been seeing some great things from the farm, recently.

 

It was nice watching our farm depth improve, but now we are seeing some of our top farm hands take it to another level.

 

Casas, Yorke and Mayer in particular.

[Larry Cook]

Jay groome with his first start at double a, Portland. In the first inning he struck out all three hitters!

[Larry Cook]

Jay groome 4 innings, no runs, 8 k’s.

 

Cassas with another tater!

[Larry Cook]

Cassas with a second tater tonight. Now at 5 in the last three games!

 

Yorke with three hits tonight!

[moonslav59]

In just a week, out farm value has shot up about as much as it can- in a week!

[moonslav59]

Some things looking real good on the farm (5-0)...

 

AAA (Woo wins 3-0)

Seabold 6IP 1H 0 ER 3BB 4K

Brewer 2IP 2H 0ER 1BB 4K

Bazardo 1IP 1H 0ER

Wong 3 for 5

 

AA (POR wins 7-1)

Groome 5IP 2H 0ER 0BB 10K (Inrepeat 0 Walk & 10 Ks!)

De Jesus 4IP 4H 1 ER 1BB 3K

Casas 2 for 3 with 2HRs and 2 BBs

Potts 2 for 4

Cottam with a dinger

 

A+ Greenville wins 7-0

Walter 5IP 2H 0ER 0BB 4K

Yorke 1 for 3 w 2BB & SB

Koss 3 for 5 w SB

Dalton 2 for 4 with HR & 2B

Esplin 3 for 4

 

A Salem sweeps DBLHDR 14-2 and 2-1

McDonough 3 for 5 in gm 1/ 2 for 3 HR & BB in gm 2

Decker 2 for 3 w HR, 3 RBI & BB gm1/ 1 for 3 w BB & GW RBI in gm 2

Lugo 2 for 4

Bonaci 1 for 3 w 3B & 3 RBI

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Some things looking real good on the farm (5-0)...

 

AAA (Woo wins 3-0)

Seabold 6IP 1H 0 ER 3BB 4K

 

 

 

Buying Seabold, just from what Sale said he saw in his rehab: "Ridiculous... plus fastball, plus breaking ball..."

 

Selling Peacock, ridiculous in the other direction: cut from AAA, picked up by Boston, and is 0-1 with a 19.29 ERA in 2.1 IP here.

 

Is bringing up Seabold for a few stints one of those safe "What do we have to lose" scenarios? If he could only sport an ERA of 17 or 18, that'd be an improvement.

[moonslav59]

Buying Seabold, just from what Sale said he saw in his rehab: "Ridiculous... plus fastball, plus breaking ball..."

 

Selling Peacock, ridiculous in the other direction: cut from AAA, picked up by Boston, and is 0-1 with a 19.29 ERA in 2.1 IP here.

 

Is bringing up Seabold for a few stints one of those safe "What do we have to lose" scenarios? If he could only sport an ERA of 17 or 18, that'd be an improvement.

 

It seems obvious, but as I have said often, I trust their choices on timing.

[moonslav59]

Are we calling up the wrong guys, or do we just have guys that only do well in the minors?

 

On the farm, today, after our teams went 5-0, yesterday.

 

Woo wins 2-1

Hart 6IP 2H 1ER 2BB 5K

Feltman & Ort 3 IP 1H 0ER 0BB 3 K

Meneses 3-3 with 2B & BB

Ockimey 2-4 w RBI

 

POR- 2 games cancelled

 

GRE loses 8-0

Nothing to report except Howlett went 1-3.

 

SAL won 6-5

Gonzalez 5 IP 2H 0ER 2BB 5K

Jimenez 2-4

Decker 2-4 w HR

Northcut 2-4 w 2 RBI

[mvp 78]

No, guys like Espinal and Hart are more up and down guys than MLBers. Crawford was on nobody’s radar in the offseason and wasn’t great in AAA.

 

The high ceiling guys are further away.

[mvp 78]

It seems obvious, but as I have said often, I trust their choices on timing.

 

If Puvetta got sick on Friday, Seabold would’ve been called up. I believe he pitched on Saturday.

[moonslav59]

If Puvetta got sick on Friday, Seabold would’ve been called up. I believe he pitched on Saturday.

 

I already explained this.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

In just a week, out farm value has shot up about as much as it can- in a week!

 

It would be hard to find a minor league system that has a better group of infield prospects than Mayer, Yorke, Casas, and Blaze. Amazing how great the infield prospects are even with Downs' disappointing year.

 

They have better SP prospects than given credit for with Groome, Bello, Mata, and a few others. It would be awesome if N.Song gets started next season but I don't remember when he is expected to return.

 

They are a little short on corner OF prospects, I suppose, but corner OF is probably the easiest spot to fill in other ways. The Red Sox top OF prospect is Duran, who plays CF and there is always a scarcity of quality CFs.

 

As others have remarked, I hope the Red Sox spend their top two or three picks on pitchers in the 2022 draft in order to build a solid foundation of prospects behind the current group of Bello, Groome, etc.

[moonslav59]

It would be hard to find a minor league system that has a better group of infield prospects than Mayer, Yorke, Casas, and Blaze. Amazing how great the infield prospects are even with Downs' disappointing year.

 

They have better SP prospects than given credit for with Groome, Bello, Mata, and a few others. It would be awesome if N.Song gets started next season but I don't remember when he is expected to return.

 

They are a little short on corner OF prospects, I suppose, but corner OF is probably the easiest spot to fill in other ways. The Red Sox top OF prospect is Duran, who plays CF and there is always a scarcity of quality CFs.

 

As others have remarked, I hope the Red Sox spend their top two or three picks on pitchers in the 2022 draft in order to build a solid foundation of prospects behind the current group of Bello, Groome, etc.

 

Well put, and since we have Whitlock and Houck on the big club, already, who aren't technically "prospects," our young pitching looks better than in a long time.