2020-2021 Offseason Thread

[moonslav59]

@SoxNotes

The Red Sox’ Opening Day roster features 14 players born in the United States, 3 in the Dominican Republic, 3 in Venezuela, 2 in Puerto Rico, 1 in Aruba, 1 in Canada, 1 in China, and 1 in Japan.

 

So, they did go with 14-12 not 13-13.

 

LOL

 

[notin]

@SoxNotes

The Red Sox’ Opening Day roster features 14 players born in the United States, 3 in the Dominican Republic, 3 in Venezuela, 2 in Puerto Rico, 1 in Aruba, 1 in Canada, 1 in China, and 1 in Japan.

 

The first thing I noticed on this was China. Who was born in China?

 

Apparently, it was Austin Brice...

[notin]

@SoxNotes

The Red Sox’ Opening Day roster features 14 players born in the United States, 3 in the Dominican Republic, 3 in Venezuela, 2 in Puerto Rico, 1 in Aruba, 1 in Canada, 1 in China, and 1 in Japan.

 

Also, is having only 3 Dominican-born players the lowest total in MLB?

[moonslav59]

Lindor- 10-year, $341 million deal will keep him in Flushing until his 38th birthday.

 

I think Correa set a date for a deal at opening day- no deal there.

[moonslav59]

MLB.com...

 

Pablo Sandoval, 3B, Braves

 

There was this fun moment last October when Sandoval pinch-hit in the NLCS and all of Baseball Twitter woke up to the reality that the Panda was, indeed, on the Atlanta Braves. Now we’ll get to relive that on Opening Day or soon thereafter since the 34-year-old Sandoval made the club as a non-roster invitee.

 

Going into camp, the safer guess would have been that Jason Kipnis would land a reserve infield role after his solid season with the Cubs, but it turns out Pandas, like cats, have nine lives.

 

Garrett Whitlock, RHP, Red Sox

 

Over the course of four appearances in the Grapefruit League, Whitlock threw the equivalent of a fantastic full game -- nine innings, one run, 12 strikeouts, no walks. That was enough to land the Rule 5 Draft pickup a roster spot, and he will be an option out of the bullpen, initially, and perhaps in the rotation eventually.

 

Whitlock is 24 with a mid-90s fastball and a changeup that was a revelation this spring. So he could be fun to watch. And here’s the delicious part for Red Sox fans: Boston took him from the Yankees.

[dgalehouse]

Lindor- 10-year, $341 million deal will keep him in Flushing until his 38th birthday.

 

I think Correa set a date for a deal at opening day- no deal there.

 

I was pretty sure the Mets would sign Lindor to an extension. They are determined to be among the elite teams.

[mvp 78]

MLB.com...

 

Pablo Sandoval, 3B, Braves

 

There was this fun moment last October when Sandoval pinch-hit in the NLCS and all of Baseball Twitter woke up to the reality that the Panda was, indeed, on the Atlanta Braves. Now we’ll get to relive that on Opening Day or soon thereafter since the 34-year-old Sandoval made the club as a non-roster invitee.

 

Going into camp, the safer guess would have been that Jason Kipnis would land a reserve infield role after his solid season with the Cubs, but it turns out Pandas, like cats, have nine lives.

 

Garrett Whitlock, RHP, Red Sox

 

Over the course of four appearances in the Grapefruit League, Whitlock threw the equivalent of a fantastic full game -- nine innings, one run, 12 strikeouts, no walks. That was enough to land the Rule 5 Draft pickup a roster spot, and he will be an option out of the bullpen, initially, and perhaps in the rotation eventually.

 

Whitlock is 24 with a mid-90s fastball and a changeup that was a revelation this spring. So he could be fun to watch. And here’s the delicious part for Red Sox fans: Boston took him from the Yankees.

 

How is Pablo only 34?

[mvp 78]

Also, is having only 3 Dominican-born players the lowest total in MLB?

 

3 could be on the average side since only about 10-12% of all players are Dominican.

[mvp 78]

Last year, only 28% of all players were born outside of the US. Sox current roster has 38% (when including PR players as US born).

[moonslav59]

How is Pablo only 34?

 

"nine lives"

[Bellhorn04]

MLB.com...

Garrett Whitlock, RHP, Red Sox

 

Over the course of four appearances in the Grapefruit League, Whitlock threw the equivalent of a fantastic full game -- nine innings, one run, 12 strikeouts, no walks. That was enough to land the Rule 5 Draft pickup a roster spot, and he will be an option out of the bullpen, initially, and perhaps in the rotation eventually.

 

Whitlock is 24 with a mid-90s fastball and a changeup that was a revelation this spring. So he could be fun to watch. And here’s the delicious part for Red Sox fans: Boston took him from the Yankees.[/i]

 

So Bloom actually picked up 4 pitchers from the Yankees: Ottavino and German by trade, and Whitlock and Ort in the Rule 5 Draft.

[harmony]

Also, is having only 3 Dominican-born players the lowest total in MLB?

The Seattle Mariners have only one Dominican-born player -- closer Rafael Montero -- on their 26-man roster:

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/team/roster/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

[jad]

How is Pablo only 34?

 

Clean living. Healthy diet. ...

[notin]

How is Pablo only 34?

 

Years or metric tons?

[mvp 78]

Clean living. Healthy diet. ...

 

VERY healthy diet. The kind of diet I wish I could have.

[mvp 78]

Years or metric tons?

 

Don't be ridiculous. He's only 34 stone.

[mvp 78]

Seems like the Rule V draft actually mattered this year!

 

Whitlock is an MLB arm.

 

Baddoo is going crazy.

[moonslav59]

Seems like the Rule V draft actually mattered this year!

 

Whitlock is an MLB arm.

 

Jacko was right about one thing: the Yanks did have a deep farm, in terms of pitching.

 

Thanks, Yanks!

[mvp 78]

I think we're getting close to that time of year.

 

Renfroe: fine as a platoon guy, ok pickup

Cordero/Winckowski/Valdez/De La Rosa/Gambrell: whatever about the Beni trade, maybe Winckowski gets run at some point

R Hernandez: has been as advertised, good for dumping 2 guys they were going to DFA

Perez: worse than last year

Richards: horrible

Sawamura: ok, but just a low leverage guy

Marwin: all glove, no bat, maybe retires this offseason

Santana: who cares, was signed to be a AAAA guy anyway

Ottavino: good trade, a lot of money for a team trying to stay under the cap though

 

Last offseason was not good. This trade deadline was not good. The prospect pipeline that Bloom is building better work out.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Franchy is not a big leaguer in any facet of the game. Hoping every day is the day that a fastball finally hits the barrel of his bat and sails over a fence is no excuse for him to be anywhere near the diamond during a pennant race.

[a700hitter]

https://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/19906-2020-2021-Offseason-Thread?p=1374214&viewfull=1#post1374214

 

The joke in this post aged well.

[notin]

https://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/19906-2020-2021-Offseason-Thread?p=1374214&viewfull=1#post1374214

 

The joke in this post aged well.

 

Just not in April, May or June…

[a700hitter]

Just not in April, May or June…

That’s why I said “aged”.

[Kimmi]

I think we're getting close to that time of year.

 

Renfroe: fine as a platoon guy, ok pickup

Cordero/Winckowski/Valdez/De La Rosa/Gambrell: whatever about the Beni trade, maybe Winckowski gets run at some point

R Hernandez: has been as advertised, good for dumping 2 guys they were going to DFA

Perez: worse than last year

Richards: horrible

Sawamura: ok, but just a low leverage guy

Marwin: all glove, no bat, maybe retires this offseason

Santana: who cares, was signed to be a AAAA guy anyway

Ottavino: good trade, a lot of money for a team trying to stay under the cap though

 

Last offseason was not good. This trade deadline was not good. The prospect pipeline that Bloom is building better work out.

 

My, how opinions change so quickly. This team was the best team in the AL until about 3 weeks ago. Last offseason was good. The trade deadline was good. As Kevin Cash says, trust in Bloom's process. He knows what he is doing.

[mvp 78]

My, how opinions change so quickly. This team was the best team in the AL until about 3 weeks ago. Last offseason was good. The trade deadline was good. As Kevin Cash says, trust in Bloom's process. He knows what he is doing.

 

Yes, this team had the best record a few weeks ago. The offseason and trade deadlines were NOT good by any measure.

[Kimmi]

Yes, this team had the best record a few weeks ago. The offseason and trade deadlines were NOT good by any measure.

 

The verdict is still out on Schwarber.

 

Regardless, the moves made in both the offseason and at the deadline were good in the sense that we have a very competitive team, while rebuilding. Bloom did not panic or give in to popular opinion. It would have been a bad move to divert from the long term plan.

 

It stinks that our rough patch coincided with the trade deadline, but that's all it is, a coincidence.

[notin]

Yes, this team had the best record a few weeks ago. The offseason and trade deadlines were NOT good by any measure.

 

Agreed, but then the team has also been so bad, one has to wonder what really could have been done.

 

The Sox (or really any team) weren’t going to be able to upgrade starting pitching, get reliable bullpen help, find a 1b solution, and overhaul the bench. Not in one deadline…

[moonslav59]

I think we're getting close to that time of year.

 

Renfroe: fine as a platoon guy, ok pickup

Cordero/Winckowski/Valdez/De La Rosa/Gambrell: whatever about the Beni trade, maybe Winckowski gets run at some point

R Hernandez: has been as advertised, good for dumping 2 guys they were going to DFA

Perez: worse than last year

Richards: horrible

Sawamura: ok, but just a low leverage guy

Marwin: all glove, no bat, maybe retires this offseason

Santana: who cares, was signed to be a AAAA guy anyway

Ottavino: good trade, a lot of money for a team trying to stay under the cap though

 

Last offseason was not good. This trade deadline was not good. The prospect pipeline that Bloom is building better work out.

 

Why not mention Kike?

Whitlock?

[mvp 78]

The verdict is still out on Schwarber.

 

Regardless, the moves made in both the offseason and at the deadline were good in the sense that we have a very competitive team, while rebuilding. Bloom did not panic or give in to popular opinion. It would have been a bad move to divert from the long term plan.

 

It stinks that our rough patch coincided with the trade deadline, but that's all it is, a coincidence.

 

The verdict so far is that he missed a very important stetch while the team was swooning. They are starting to dig a hole they may not be able to get out of.

 

Was the Ottavino trade worth it considering how close it got the Sox to the cap?

 

What the Richards deal a good deal?

 

Has Perez been worth his contract?

 

Was the plan the FO had for the OF a good one?

 

Are you ok with them not getting a veteran backup in the offseason?

 

Several people questioned the SP additions (as always), the RP additions, the lack of a 3rd OFer, the lack of a reliable 1B.

[mvp 78]

Why not mention Kike?

Whitlock?

 

The plan for the starting rotation sucked. The plan for 1b sucked. The lack of a third OFer sucked. If they were planning on Kiké playing CF, why not get a 2B?