Roenicke fired

[jacksonianmarch]

Sox will move on from Roenicke and Bloom will get to pick his own manager

[moonslav59]

I'm not surprised.

 

Here's the statement:

 

“Throughout this difficult season, Ron’s consistency and professionalism kept the environment in our clubhouse productive and gave all of our players room to grow and develop. While we believe that, moving forward, we will benefit from new leadership and new energy, that does not diminish how strongly we feel about Ron. He is a man of the highest character who cares about our players and the Red Sox organization. As bench coach, he helped this team win a world championship. As manager, he showed poise and leadership in navigating an extremely challenging year. We are grateful for all of his contributions in our uniform.”

[a700hitter]

He did a Joe Kerrigan. Bloom will get until the All Star Break of 2021 to get the team over .500. .500 ball is the minimum threshold that should be expected even when rebuilding for a team with a high payroll and the highest ticket prices.

[Thunder]

He did a Joe Kerrigan. Bloom will get until the All Star Break of 2021 to get the team over .500. .500 ball is the minimum threshold that should be expected even when rebuilding for a team with a high payroll and the highest ticket prices.

 

If we ride Houck, I think we can do it

[moonslav59]

If we ride Houck, I think we can do it

 

He will likely be limited to 150 IP max.

 

[Larry Cook]

If we ride Houck, I think we can do it

 

I recommend caution with houck! He has only worked 17 innings thus far. Also he only has two pitches and hitters will figure this out. Finally, no way should he throw more than 150 innings next year. If he can hold down a spot until sale gets back, that would be great.

 

Ps: I believe sale will be back to being incredible by October 2021.

 

Privetta has four pitches and impressive stuff, getting him straightened out would be a huge win for us.

 

Rotation for 2021:

 

Houck starts the season. Then sale comes back after the all star break as houck runs out of gas.

Rodriguez

Free agent signee

Eovaldi

Perez/privetta

[a700hitter]

I recommend caution with houck! He has only worked 17 innings thus far. Also he only has two pitches and hitters will figure this out. Finally, no way should he throw more than 150 innings next year. If he can hold down a spot until sale gets back, that would be great.

 

Ps: I believe sale will be back to being incredible by October 2021.

 

Privetta has four pitches and impressive stuff, getting him straightened out would be a huge win for us.

 

Rotation for 2021:

 

Houck starts the season. Then sale comes back after the all star break as houck runs out of gas.

Rodriguez

Free agent signee

Eovaldi

Perez/privetta

Eventually, you will come to grips with the fact that Pivetta stinks. He didn’t need a change of scenery. He needed a change of profession.

[mvp 78]

In A700land, any player who isn’t a perennial allstar stinks and should retire.

[dgalehouse]

Roenicke's firing seemed inevitable . He was in a tough situation and , quite frankly , did not impress . I would say that Cora is the morning line favorite to get his old job back.

[mvp 78]

Wonder how Varitek was behind the scenes.

[Thunder]

We better not hire Cora

[mvp 78]

Pivetta: 2-0, 1.8 ERA with Sox

 

A700: Retire bitch!

 

[dgalehouse]

Roenicke's firing seemed inevitable . He was in a tough situation and , quite frankly , did not impress . I would say that Cora is the morning line favorite to get his old job back.

 

Does anyone know the status of Kevin Cash in Tampa Bay ? He seems like a good one and Bloom is obviously familiar with him .

[moonslav59]

Does anyone know the status of Kevin Cash in Tampa Bay ? He seems like a good one and Bloom is obviously familiar with him .

 

They extended him through 2024.

[dgalehouse]

They extended him through 2024.

 

Thanks. Scratch him.

[mvp 78]

Mark Loretta? Sam Fuld?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I don't think the Red Sox bring Cora back... not in 2021. As much as ownership loves Cora, Bloom does not (why should he), and the franchise is committed to the current Chief Baseball Officer. Bloom will get to bring in his own guy, someone trusted to help oversee a rebuild. Cora is not that guy -- he is a world champion manager, who knows how to prod a first place team to greater heights.

 

The controversy and pressure to bring back Cora may happen in a few years, when/if the Sox are finally back as legit contenders...and just missing that leader who can give them the extra push to the top.

[notin]

Matt Quatraro. Book it...

[Elktonnick]

I don't think the Red Sox bring Cora back... not in 2021. As much as ownership loves Cora, Bloom does not (why should he), and the franchise is committed to the current Chief Baseball Officer. Bloom will get to bring in his own guy, someone trusted to help oversee a rebuild. Cora is not that guy -- he is a world champion manager, who knows how to prod a first place team to greater heights.

 

The controversy and pressure to bring back Cora may happen in a few years, when/if the Sox are finally back as legit contenders...and just missing that leader who can give them the extra push to the top.

 

I agree Bloom doesn't want to look back but rather move forward. I believe that Bloom always intended that RR would be a stop gap hire until he had enough time to fully evaluate all his baseball operations personnel. Bloom should now be free to make his own hires. I suspect that Bloom wants someone who shares his vision on how pitchers should be evaluated developed and managed and Cora may not share that vision. In any case both RR and Alex Cora were DD hires. The past is the past and the DD era is over. It is time for the Bloom era to begin and I doubt Chaim Bloom sees bringing back Cora would be in keeping with moving the organization forward

[jad]

So they have a manager candidate who is experienced, a WS winner, a proven track record with the team is loved by players, great with the media, knowledgeable about baseball and its history and one of the very few in the "drumbeat" scandal who did NOT throw anyone under the bus, but proved his integrity by not selling out former players ... and yet, there are those who think that what's more important than that is that Bloom get "his guy"? (Is Henry going to make sure he gets him cheap as well?)

[Nick]

So they have a manager candidate who is experienced, a WS winner, a proven track record with the team is loved by players, great with the media, knowledgeable about baseball and its history and one of the very few in the "drumbeat" scandal who did NOT throw anyone under the bus, but proved his integrity by not selling out former players ... and yet, there are those who think that what's more important than that is that Bloom get "his guy"? (Is Henry going to make sure he gets him cheap as well?)

 

Yep...maybe Cora didn't cheat with the Sox but his fingerprints were all over Houston cheating scandal. Clean slate is clean slate.

[Thunder]

Yep...maybe Cora didn't cheat with the Sox but his fingerprints were all over Houston cheating scandal. Clean slate is clean slate.

 

I'm with you. No need to bring that into the clubhouse

[mvp 78]

I don't think the Red Sox bring Cora back... not in 2021. As much as ownership loves Cora, Bloom does not (why should he), and the franchise is committed to the current Chief Baseball Officer. Bloom will get to bring in his own guy, someone trusted to help oversee a rebuild. Cora is not that guy -- he is a world champion manager, who knows how to prod a first place team to greater heights.

 

The controversy and pressure to bring back Cora may happen in a few years, when/if the Sox are finally back as legit contenders...and just missing that leader who can give them the extra push to the top.

 

We have no idea what Bloom's thoughts are on Cora. None.

[mvp 78]

Yep...maybe Cora didn't cheat with the Sox but his fingerprints were all over Houston cheating scandal. Clean slate is clean slate.

 

The cheating started long before he was even there. Cora was a scapegoat.

[notin]

The cheating started long before he was even there. Cora was a scapegoat.

 

But he was still attached in the media and suspended. If the Sox do avoid him, it could be for PR reasons.

[Bellhorn04]

We have no idea what Bloom's thoughts are on Cora. None.

 

100% correct.

[mvp 78]

Speaking with the media via a Zoom call following the announcement that Ron Roenicke wouldn’t be returning as manager for the 2021 season, the Red Sox’ Chief Baseball Officer consistently refused to offer any specifics when asked about whether or not Bloom viewed Cora as a managerial candidate.

 

"With respect to Alex and I know this is a question I got a couple times during the season and I think you guys know where I stand on Alex, but I know I didn’t get into very much detail about it during the season," Bloom said. "That was really because out of respect to Ron. I thought that Ron deserved to be evaluated without anybody looking over his shoulder. So i know that’s not the case anymore but I still don’t really want to get into any detail on my thoughts on Alex. I don’t want to say anything about Alex that I haven’t already said to Alex and obviously I haven’t spoken to Alex. So there will be a time where I can get into more detail on Alex and his situation and my thoughts on it, but that time isn’t now so I’m hoping everybody will respect that."

 

If Cora is a candidate to replace Roenicke, the Red Sox are not allowed to talk with the former Sox manager until after the completion of the World Series due to his current one-year suspension for his role in the 2017 Houston Astros cheating scandal.

 

When asked if his stance regarding Cora had remained the same since discussing the topic on WEEI in May -- when Bloom detailed that the parting of the ways with the former manager had solely to do with how the Houston transgression might impact the 2020 Red Sox -- the Sox chief decision-maker reiterated nothing had changed.

[mvp 78]

If I wagered a guess, Bloom most likely believes Cora is a great fit for the Red Sox, BUT the history with the scandal may make it too hard to bring him back. If not for the Astros nonsense, Cora would still be the manager going forward.

[Thunder]

Is it too early for Varitek to be manager?

[mvp 78]

Is it too early for Varitek to be manager?

 

Can't name one until after the WS.