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I don't think it's super-pessimistic to suggest it could be the worst Red Sox rotation ever, with Sale out for the season and possibly E-Rod as well.
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I don't think it's super-pessimistic to suggest it could be the worst Red Sox rotation ever, with Sale out for the season and possibly E-Rod as well.

 

No, we knew it was the weakest part of the team going into the year. With the luxury tax mandate, Bloom didn’t have many options.

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Best case scenario is we can trade some of these deadbeat pitchers by the trade deadline.

 

Anything of value we get is a win!

 

They have to show something before you can trade 'em. Catch-22.

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Best case scenario is we can trade some of these deadbeat pitchers by the trade deadline.

 

Anything of value we get is a win!

You couldn't give away most of those pitchers.
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You couldn't give away most of those pitchers.

 

The only tradeable pitchers in the player pool:

 

Active:

EO

Barnes

Workman

 

Injured:

Erod

DHern

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Well, looks like Brian Johnson will not be starting for the Red Sox.

 

@ChrisCotillo

Source: Brian Johnson is not opting out of the 2020 season but it appears his time with the Red Sox is over. Official transaction still TBD -- but doesn't appear there's a future for him in Boston.

@SmittyOnMLB reported earlier he had left Pawtucket and flown home to FL.

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I don't think it's super-pessimistic to suggest it could be the worst Red Sox rotation ever, with Sale out for the season and possibly E-Rod as well.

 

I’m ok saying it. In fact, I think I might have already. I know I’ve been thinking it...

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I’m ok saying it. In fact, I think I might have already. I know I’ve been thinking it...

 

In traditional rotations, there are usually five or six pitchers who get the majority of starts throughout a season.

 

I've been a fan for over half a century, and this is the first version of a Red Sox pitching staff that has no rotation.

 

Eovaldi and Perez are Boston's two starters. Two. The rest is one big revolving door.

 

But when you talk about destruction, don't you know that you can count me out (in).

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It's at least the worst rotation I've ever seen in my lifetime.

 

If I’m being honest, my Little League team was worse...

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If I’m being honest, my Little League team was worse...

 

This is half-serious: did you have an actual rotation or did the coaches give every single kid on the roster a turn on the mound? The latter is encouraged at lower levels... thus, walkathons where youngsters not really sure they love baseball learn to love picking daisies.

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This is half-serious: did you have an actual rotation or did the coaches give every single kid on the roster a turn on the mound? The latter is encouraged at lower levels... thus, walkathons where youngsters not really sure they love baseball learn to love picking daisies.

 

3 inning limit. So two sets of two pitchers each...

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The 2020 season is a lost cause. What we do for starters in 2021 is more the question. If Eovaldi and Perez can make it back in 2021 and E-rood is back in good form we have 3. Sale is probably not going to be back for most of the season, if at all. Mata may make the jump and D-Hern may but will likely be a reliever. We need a quality FA in the best of scenarios and they are hard to come by. We have to hope that pitcher development is amped up in the minors and we get surprised with another young prospect making the grade. I personally don't like the idea of an opener, but is probably my having been a fan for over 70 years. I trust Bloom to be on the right path, even if we don't get there in 2021.
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The 2020 season is a lost cause. What we do for starters in 2021 is more the question. If Eovaldi and Perez can make it back in 2021 and E-rood is back in good form we have 3. Sale is probably not going to be back for most of the season, if at all. Mata may make the jump and D-Hern may but will likely be a reliever. We need a quality FA in the best of scenarios and they are hard to come by. We have to hope that pitcher development is amped up in the minors and we get surprised with another young prospect making the grade. I personally don't like the idea of an opener, but is probably my having been a fan for over 70 years. I trust Bloom to be on the right path, even if we don't get there in 2021.

 

I'm a dinosaur, too, but I've come around to WAR -- where starters that eat innings are always more valuable than relievers because of one factor: outs recorded.

 

Even if you have a good opener in a game, you still have to hope you have a good bulk guy the same day, then other multiple relievers who are also on or not too burned out from previous nights... as opposed to a good starter who can throw effectively three times through the order.

 

Which is more reliable -- a starter who regularly goes six or Notin's Little League format of two guys who throw three frames each? Even if the latter combo is on a regular rotation together, like opener/bulker every five games, you're still relying on twice as many fickle, fluctuating human beings.

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The 2020 season is a lost cause. What we do for starters in 2021 is more the question. If Eovaldi and Perez can make it back in 2021 and E-rood is back in good form we have 3. Sale is probably not going to be back for most of the season, if at all. Mata may make the jump and D-Hern may but will likely be a reliever. We need a quality FA in the best of scenarios and they are hard to come by. We have to hope that pitcher development is amped up in the minors and we get surprised with another young prospect making the grade. I personally don't like the idea of an opener, but is probably my having been a fan for over 70 years. I trust Bloom to be on the right path, even if we don't get there in 2021.

 

Perez has a one year contract. I don't see him coming back.

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Perez has a one year contract. I don't see him coming back.

 

He's not the prototype 95 mph fastballer, but if he can go 5 or 6 in todays world and keep the game in bounds, why not try to keep him as a 4th or 5th option?

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He's not the prototype 95 mph fastballer, but if he can go 5 or 6 in todays world and keep the game in bounds, why not try to keep him as a 4th or 5th option?

 

Rather keep Godley for that purpose...

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Perez has a one year contract. I don't see him coming back.

 

Martin Perez lhp

1 year/$6.5M (2020), plus 2021 option

 

1 year/$6.5M (2020), plus 2021 club option

signed by Boston as a free agent 12/14/19

20:$6M, 21:$6.25M club option ($500,000 buyout)

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Perez has a one year contract. I don't see him coming back.

 

 

The Red Sox hold a team option for $6.25 mill with a $500 K buyout. He might be back as sort of a default option. Bringing him back just makes one less hole to fill and does so easily and relatively cheaply...

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