Cleveland What’s?

[notin]

Much like the Redskins, the Cleveland Guardians are considering a name change. What are some thoughts on a new name for an MLB franchise that represents the city of Cleveland?

 

Their minor league hockey team used to go by the Lake Erie Monsters, which was an incredible name. But they changed it to Cleveland Monsters, which just made it lame. It also hurts that the Angels just wasted one of the best monikers ever - Trash Pandas - on a minor league franchise.

 

Any thoughts on a new name for a Cleveland MLB franchise?

[Bellhorn04]

Rockers

[Thunder]

Redskins I agree needs to be changed, but not Guardians

[a700hitter]

Erie's

[Kimmi]

Redskins I agree needs to be changed, but not Guardians

 

I was thinking the same thing.

[illinoisredsox]

Erie's

 

Nope, that was the name of an Indian group wiped out by the Iroquois in the mid 1600s.

 

Wasn't there a NL team in Cleveland late in the 19th century called the Spiders?

[Bellhorn04]

I was thinking the same thing.

 

I think they might as well change them all and get it over with, rather than drag out the process.

[Thunder]

I think they might as well change them all and get it over with, rather than drag out the process.

 

But then where does it end? Chiefs and Braves would presumably be next, and then you can start to go crazy with it. For example, the original Patriots during the Revolutionary War were all white, so does the name Patriots promote white supremacy?

 

That's as non-political as I can be

[dgalehouse]

Many towns or areas are named after various Indian tribes . This is intended as a compliment , not at all derogatory . The Florida State football team is nicknamed " Seminoles " , without any complaint from the Seminole tribe in Florida. Certainly , " Redskins " can be offensive and should be changed , but is there really a need to change everything ?

[Thunder]

Many towns or areas are named after various Indian tribes . This is intended as a compliment , not at all derogatory . The Florida State football team is nicknamed " Seminoles " , without any complaint from the Seminole tribe in Florida. Certainly , " Redskins " can be offensive and should be changed , but is there really a need to change everything ?

 

Within the last couple years, my high school recently had to change Sachems. I don't think that is a derogatory term either

[moonslav59]

"Lakers" (short for mistake on the lake)

 

I like "Rockers" best.

[moonslav59]

Washington should just change their name to foreskins, so we can still call them the skins.

[mvp 78]

Cleveland f*** Boys

[Donnie Sadler was short]

The Guardians had their name changed from the Naps, to Guardians to honor Alex Sockalexis the first Indian (I dont think Indian is derogatory) Native American to play in the majors (he was from my state of Maine)

[Thunder]

Cleveland f*** Boys

 

Cleveland 18-22 year old frat boys

[moonslav59]

Rockers would work great.

 

Think of the mascots, logos, and more!

[dgalehouse]

How about the Cleveland Galehouses ? If it wasn't for the late , great Denny Galehouse , they would be " celebrating " a 100 year championship drought this season . You are welcome , Cleveland .

[Kimmi]

I think they might as well change them all and get it over with, rather than drag out the process.

 

People can find a reason to be offended about anything though. I'm not sure if it's possible to get it over with quickly.

[Bellhorn04]

People can find a reason to be offended about anything though. I'm not sure if it's possible to get it over with quickly.

 

Redskins, Chiefs, Guardians, Braves - these are all pretty much at the same level, IMHO.

[Kimmi]

Redskins, Chiefs, Guardians, Braves - these are all pretty much at the same level, IMHO.

 

Redskins I understand. I don't understand what is offensive about the others. Forgive my ignorance.

[Bellhorn04]

Redskins I understand. I don't understand what is offensive about the others. Forgive my ignorance.

 

I know what you're saying. But if indigenous people find them offensive I accept it.

[Bellhorn04]

Maybe 'Guardians' and 'Braves' are not so offensive in themselves, but these two franchises have done plenty to emphasize all the obviously offensive stereotypes that can be associated with the names - "Chief Wahoo", "Chief Noc-a-homa", the "Tomahawk Chop", etc.

[bkzwhitestrican]

To make things easier all Cleveland franchises should be called the Browns

[mvp 78]

Redskins I understand. I don't understand what is offensive about the others. Forgive my ignorance.

 

For starters, they aren’t “Guardians.”

[mvp 78]

Maybe 'Guardians' and 'Braves' are not so offensive in themselves, but these two franchises have done plenty to emphasize all the obviously offensive stereotypes that can be associated with the names - "Chief Wahoo", "Chief Noc-a-homa", the "Tomahawk Chop", etc.

 

Wahoo should have been gone decades ago. Braves got rid of Noc-a-homa a few years ago I believe.

[mvp 78]

To make things easier all Cleveland franchises should be called the Browns

 

I like it.

[Thunder]

To make things easier all Cleveland franchises should be called the Browns

 

Someone would find that racist, even though it's after Paul Brown

[Kimmi]

I know what you're saying. But if indigenous people find them offensive I accept it.

 

Fair point.

[Kimmi]

Maybe 'Guardians' and 'Braves' are not so offensive in themselves, but these two franchises have done plenty to emphasize all the obviously offensive stereotypes that can be associated with the names - "Chief Wahoo", "Chief Noc-a-homa", the "Tomahawk Chop", etc.

 

Another fair point. Can they change their logos, etc., without changing their names?

[moonslav59]

I know what you're saying. But if indigenous people find them offensive I accept it.

 

I can understand their positions, and whn you look at the Indian's logo, I'd be offended, too.

 

The Redskins logo has always looked distinguished, to me, but yeah, the name is a clear no-no.

 

Chiefs and Braves seem kind of neutral, but I can see how their names are being used to instill thoughts of brave warriors in battle, and that's a stereotype they feel has been overused for long enough.

 

My guess is, with all that is going on now, these names will be changed within a year or two.

 

Hell, the Lincoln Memorial may be next, after all, he did sign off on the biggest gov't sanctioned lynching of Native Americans in US history.

 

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