Will The MLB Suspend The 2020 season

[Thunder]

As I've said many times before, football season does not start until baseball season is over. No matter when that might be.

 

Well, I'm not you

[Kimmi]

they should 100% do this. and every night televise a national game. baseball would benefit big time. Americans are starving for sport.

 

Seeing some sports coming back would be a big psychological boost for Americans, if nothing else.

[Thunder]

Here’s the only way this can work.

 

MLB takes over a massive baseball complex. You need at least 15 fields.

 

MLB buys out a bunch of local hotels, houses, fields, etc. Those locations are retrofitted/refurbished/built for player living.

 

Every player reports and is tested for COVID 19. By that point, the rapid test will be available. Any positives are sent home for a month.

 

Every player is isolated from any outside sources. No family, friends, nothing. It’s baseball, nothing but.

 

MLB staff, food services, and media are under the same quarantine.

 

2 weeks of ST, then opening the season. This should be done in a warm weather location so you can extend the season. Maybe northern Florida.

 

For the minor leagues, they’d do the same thing, and market the minor league games. The minor league complex would need to be driving distance from the MLB complex (within 3 hours). That way you can shuttle players from the minor if there are injuries.

 

Any injury requiring medical care is a 2 week injury. You need COVID testing to return and will be quarantined for awhile until they’re sure COVID doesn’t develop. If you have to break quarantine for care, you’re out.

 

Regarding the injuries, couldn't they just have trainers on site that have been tested?

[notin]

Here’s the only way this can work.

 

MLB takes over a massive baseball complex. You need at least 15 fields.

 

 

 

Why not just play in the Spring Training facilities in FLA and AZ? Instead of AL and NL, standing could be the Grapefruit/Cactus league standings, regardless of league. Players could travel by bus and reduce outside exposure. World Series is Grapefruit champion vs. Cactus champion.

 

And every team uses the DH. Let's not let the stupidest rule in baseball be an obstacle here...

[Thunder]

Why not just play in the Spring Training facilities in FLA and AZ? Instead of AL and NL, standing could be the Grapefruit/Cactus league standings, regardless of league. Players could travel by bus and reduce outside exposure. World Series is Grapefruit champion vs. Cactus champion.

 

And every team uses the DH. Let's not let the stupidest rule in baseball be an obstacle here...

 

Personally, I don't think that would be appealing to both TV producers and their audiences

[Kimmi]

Personally, I don't think that would be appealing to both TV producers and their audiences

 

It would be better than nothing.

[Thunder]

It would be better than nothing.

 

Well I wouldn't necessarily tune into that. I haven't missed sports during this time. I've found other stuff to do, so I feel like even when sports do come back on TV I won't be as engaged

[dgalehouse]

Lets face the reality here . There is a very strong possibility that there will not be any MLB games this year . And it gets stronger every day. The NFL and college football are no sure thing either.

[Thunder]

Lets face the reality here . There is a very strong possibility that there will not be any MLB games this year . And it gets stronger every day. The NFL and college football are no sure thing either.

 

Agreed, but I think it's still too soon to tell about football. Good news is, I am considered essential so I would still get to travel with the team

[Bellhorn04]

Lets face the reality here . There is a very strong possibility that there will not be any MLB games this year . And it gets stronger every day. The NFL and college football are no sure thing either.

 

I think that now that they are looking at playing without crowds, there will be games.

[notin]

Personally, I don't think that would be appealing to both TV producers and their audiences

 

Why not?

 

ESPN is running old games. What's less exciting than a game with pre-determined outcome? Last week I watched a replay of a 2013 Patriots-Broncos game. Sure I loved watching the Patriots rally back from a 24-0 halftime deficit, but do you think ratings in Denver were any good?

 

As an audience member, I don't care if the Sox play the Twins or the White Sox. I just want games...

[jacksonianmarch]

Regarding the injuries, couldn't they just have trainers on site that have been tested?

 

Trainers will be there. But if you need an MRI and have to go to a medical facility, you’re out

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Why not just play in the Spring Training facilities in FLA and AZ? Instead of AL and NL, standing could be the Grapefruit/Cactus league standings, regardless of league. Players could travel by bus and reduce outside exposure. World Series is Grapefruit champion vs. Cactus champion.

 

And every team uses the DH. Let's not let the stupidest rule in baseball be an obstacle here...

 

These two states obviously make the most sense from a baseball standpoint... but unfortunately, not in a realistic sense. Hate to bring politics into this... but FLA and AZ are two of the few places in the world whose leaders haven't ordered statewide shut-down mitigation... despite what scientists all over the universe are convinced is our only chance right now.

 

I'm not going to get into the logic and logistics about staying open for business where thousands of elderly retired Americans (those most susceptible to succumbing to the virus) go to live out their lives.

[Thunder]

Why not?

 

ESPN is running old games. What's less exciting than a game with pre-determined outcome? Last week I watched a replay of a 2013 Patriots-Broncos game. Sure I loved watching the Patriots rally back from a 24-0 halftime deficit, but do you think ratings in Denver were any good?

 

As an audience member, I don't care if the Sox play the Twins or the White Sox. I just want games...

 

Just personal preference. Does there have to be a reason?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Here’s the only way this can work.

 

MLB takes over a massive baseball complex. You need at least 15 fields.

 

MLB buys out a bunch of local hotels, houses, fields, etc. Those locations are retrofitted/refurbished/built for player living.

 

Every player reports and is tested for COVID 19. By that point, the rapid test will be available. Any positives are sent home for a month.

 

Every player is isolated from any outside sources. No family, friends, nothing. It’s baseball, nothing but.

 

MLB staff, food services, and media are under the same quarantine.

 

2 weeks of ST, then opening the season. This should be done in a warm weather location so you can extend the season. Maybe northern Florida.

 

For the minor leagues, they’d do the same thing, and market the minor league games. The minor league complex would need to be driving distance from the MLB complex (within 3 hours). That way you can shuttle players from the minor if there are injuries.

 

Any injury requiring medical care is a 2 week injury. You need COVID testing to return and will be quarantined for awhile until they’re sure COVID doesn’t develop. If you have to break quarantine for care, you’re out.

 

Well thought-out, and probably the only hope. But I'd guess the players, union, etc. would only go for this under a one-time tournament-type situation, like a WBC or Olympics (which may work better for TV anyway). Longterm wouldn't work, because of both physical and mental health issues. The first thing I thought of under this scenario is the first thing I imagined the players thinking: "wait -- no wives, girlfriends or groupies???"

[S5Dewey]

But are they legal?

 

Like it or not, I could see some sort of ACLU fight over religious rights per the First Amendment...

 

We just had one of those fights up here in my state over whether or not parents have the right to prevent their children from being fully immunized in order to attend school.

 

Up until 2019 parents were able to deny immunization based on philosophical, medical, or religious reasons but the 2019 Legislature passed a bill removing the philosophical and religious beliefs leaving only the medical exemption. Those opposed to the new law gathered enough signatures to bring the issue to a referendum and the electorate voted overwhelmingly (3-1) to support the revised and current law.

 

There's been some 'noise' about appealing the results of the vote on Constitutional grounds but AFAIK nothing has come of it yet.

[a700hitter]

We just had one of those fights up here in my state over whether or not parents have the right to prevent their children from being fully immunized in order to attend school.

 

Up until 2019 parents were able to deny immunization based on philosophical, medical, or religious reasons but the 2019 Legislature passed a bill removing the philosophical and religious beliefs leaving only the medical exemption. Those opposed to the new law gathered enough signatures to bring the issue to a referendum and the electorate voted overwhelmingly (3-1) to support the revised and current law.

 

There's been some 'noise' about appealing the results of the vote on Constitutional grounds but AFAIK nothing has come of it yet.

I always thought you had to have immunizations to attend school. In the 70's I remember Muhammad Ali doing PSA's pointing his Boxing glove at the camera and saying "No shots. No School. That's the Law." When did that change? Since a public education is a privilege and not a Constitutional Right, reasonable conditions can be placed on it, including public health restrictions.

[S5Dewey]

I always thought you had to have immunizations to attend school. In the 70's I remember Muhammad Ali doing PSA's pointing his Boxing glove at the camera and saying "No shots. No School. That's the Law." When did that change? Since a public education is a privilege and not a Constitutional Right, reasonable conditions can be placed on it, including public health restrictions.

 

That was the problem. 'Everyone' thought that... and then more and more parents were denying immunization until a few schools closed for short time due to a mini-epidemic of chickenpox. These parents then pointed out that their children could attend school without being immunized - and they were legally right.

 

There was a lot of misinformation spread by the petitioners about what the law would and wouldn't change. I personally was told by a petitioner that even medical exemptions wouldn't be allowed.

[illinoisredsox]

I always thought you had to have immunizations to attend school. In the 70's I remember Muhammad Ali doing PSA's pointing his Boxing glove at the camera and saying "No shots. No School. That's the Law." When did that change? Since a public education is a privilege and not a Constitutional Right, reasonable conditions can be placed on it, including public health restrictions.

 

There has always been a religious exception, but in reality there are very few religions that have objections, especially here in the US. The only ones I'm aware of are the Christian Scientists and the Dutch Reformed Church. There are a few small Muslim sects in Southeast Asia that object because they think vaccines are pork based, but even if there were members in the US, they don't strike me as the types who would be sending their kids to public school.

[mvp 78]

I would love empty stadium games. It would be great for baseball and great for America.

[Thunder]

I would love empty stadium games. It would be great for baseball and great for America.

 

The combination of this and Jacko's idea would really promote playing for the love of the game, which would be nice to see

[mvp 78]

The combination of this and Jacko's idea would really promote playing for the love of the game, which would be nice to see

 

I'm unsure about mic'ing up the players, but it was fun during Spring Training.

[notin]

That was the problem. 'Everyone' thought that... and then more and more parents were denying immunization until a few schools closed for short time due to a mini-epidemic of chickenpox. These parents then pointed out that their children could attend school without being immunized - and they were legally right.

 

There was a lot of misinformation spread by the petitioners about what the law would and wouldn't change. I personally was told by a petitioner that even medical exemptions wouldn't be allowed.

 

Schools have also moved immunization dates back so far it doesn't matter if the kid ever gets them or not. My wife's district requires them before December. At that point, the kids have all already infected each other anyway...

[S5Dewey]

Schools have also moved immunization dates back so far it doesn't matter if the kid ever gets them or not. My wife's district requires them before December. At that point, the kids have all already infected each other anyway...

 

That's kind of a stretch, in my state anyway. There's a 90 day "grace period" in my state too but it only applies to kindergarten or students transferring from another state. Since nearly all in-state students (other than K) have been immunized anyway the "herd immunity" protects all but the very, very few who may not have already received their shots.

 

Which brings us around to the original problem of too few parents having their kids immunized and therefore vulnerable to disease.

[Thunder]

By no stretch of the imagination am I an anti-vaxxer. Obviously, I've gotten all the vaccines required to attend public school and then college, but we've always hesitated for anything beyond that. I've never gotten the flu, except once when I was 6 when our entire house got it. Would I get a COVID-19 vaccine? Probably not, assuming I have the antibodies already in me, which we will find out as soon as it is appropriate to do so. If I don't have the antibodies? I would be more open to the vaccine, but I would have to think about it first. Of course, if UConn required it, that would end the discussion

[mvp 78]

@joonlee

Rangers outfielder Shin-Soo Choo is giving $1,000 to around 190 players in the team's farm system due to the shutdown

 

"Minor league players are the future of our organization. I just hope that they can fight through and overcome this difficult time."

[a700hitter]

@joonlee

Rangers outfielder Shin-Soo Choo is giving $1,000 to around 190 players in the team's farm system due to the shutdown

 

"Minor league players are the future of our organization. I just hope that they can fight through and overcome this difficult time."

Maybe this will encourage other MLBers to follow suit.

[notin]

That's kind of a stretch, in my state anyway. There's a 90 day "grace period" in my state too but it only applies to kindergarten or students transferring from another state. Since nearly all in-state students (other than K) have been immunized anyway the "herd immunity" protects all but the very, very few who may not have already received their shots.

 

Which brings us around to the original problem of too few parents having their kids immunized and therefore vulnerable to disease.

 

See, my wife teaches middle school and has a December date, which makes the whole thing moot.

 

The big problem in her district is tha many of the families are very poor and even homeless. School is dirt cheap day care and a source of free meals. And lot of these families don't take time off to see doctors regularly, because it means taking time out of work. As result, a lot of children go unvaccinated...

[Kimmi]

Lets face the reality here . There is a very strong possibility that there will not be any MLB games this year . And it gets stronger every day. The NFL and college football are no sure thing either.

 

Think positive Denny!

[Kimmi]

@joonlee

Rangers outfielder Shin-Soo Choo is giving $1,000 to around 190 players in the team's farm system due to the shutdown

 

"Minor league players are the future of our organization. I just hope that they can fight through and overcome this difficult time."

 

Well done, Choo, well done.