Will The MLB Suspend The 2020 season

[Kimmi]

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Former Red Sox Carl Crawford arrested for domestic violence

 

Rob Bradford

June 05, 2020 - 7:44 am

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According to TMZ, former Red Sox outfielder Carl Crawford has been arrested for allegedly choking his former girlfriend at gunpoint.

 

As of Thursday night, Crawford was in custody after surrendering to authorities in Houston, being held on a $10,000 bond.

 

Crawford's attorney Rusty Hardin told TMZ, "We strongly deny the charges and the conduct he is alleged to have engaged in. He would never hurt a woman. He has no criminal history."

 

The alleged victim, Crawford's former girlfriend, said in the report that she was pushed to the ground after the former MLB player had already unloaded a round from his semi-automatic handgun. Holding the woman on the ground, the 38-year-old allegedly squeezed her neck while yelling accusations stemming from her involvement with another man.

 

Crawford allegedly texted the woman to inform her he was hiring somebody to track down the male he believed she had become involved with.

 

For all the details of the report, click here.

 

Crawford played for the Red Sox in 2011 and part of 2012 before being traded to the Dodgers. His last major league season came in 2016.

[jad]

And I agree with a lot of this.

 

If I'm being devil's advocate for the owners I would argue what is being called sharing of losses is pay cutting, which is commonplace when businesses are losing money.

 

I could also argue that players do share profits, indirectly, because when business is booming players are getting monster contracts - guaranteed contracts that will be paid even if the player tanks.

 

Right. But an important word is "indirectly." Of course players gain when ownership reaps profits; but they do so down the road--at the next CBA? or because the owners decide (unilaterally) to pay higher salaries. And the same holds true for losses. The difference here is that owners are demanding that players share in the losses NOW, not down the road.

[notin]

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/06/05/report-mlb-owners-want-a-48-game-season/

 

48 game season? Why not just make it 60 and use day/night double headers? Day baseball could be great advertisement to kids stuck at home. Make it fun. Let players be mic'ed up. You can have a kid centric physics lesson, plant care with the groundskeeping crew, math, etc. Could be an interesting idea.

 

With the expanded rosters, I’d rather see more double headers than pitching changes and pinch running specialists.

 

Although I don’t think emphasizing horticulture is likely or useful. “Come watch MLB!! See the grass grow!!” Bad slogan...

[jad]

I will grant the owners this (and I won't grant them much). They're in a tricky situation. They could feel that it's best just to start the season and eat the losses now, then make up for it with, say, reduced spending next year on renewed contracts and free agency. That's reasonable enough. But they cannot state that publicly or even really discuss it openly with other owners, as that would quite legitimately be called 'collusion' ("Hey guys, let's just play, figure out our losses, then have massive salary reductions next year.") I just hope they are smart enough to realize that losing a season and demonizing their players is risking an enormous drop in the value of their franchises. And maybe, with all the real estate they own, whose value continues to increase, they don't give a s***. A really bad situation for fans. I don't see how this season starts (unless there are serious negotiations going on behind the scenes that we know nothing about).

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

For a lack of a better place to put this:

 

Former Red Sox Carl Crawford arrested for domestic violence

 

Rob Bradford

June 05, 2020 - 7:44 am

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According to TMZ, former Red Sox outfielder Carl Crawford has been arrested for allegedly choking his former girlfriend at gunpoint.

 

As of Thursday night, Crawford was in custody after surrendering to authorities in Houston, being held on a $10,000 bond.

 

Crawford's attorney Rusty Hardin told TMZ, "We strongly deny the charges and the conduct he is alleged to have engaged in. He would never hurt a woman. He has no criminal history."

 

The alleged victim, Crawford's former girlfriend, said in the report that she was pushed to the ground after the former MLB player had already unloaded a round from his semi-automatic handgun. Holding the woman on the ground, the 38-year-old allegedly squeezed her neck while yelling accusations stemming from her involvement with another man.

 

Crawford allegedly texted the woman to inform her he was hiring somebody to track down the male he believed she had become involved with.

 

For all the details of the report, click here.

 

Crawford played for the Red Sox in 2011 and part of 2012 before being traded to the Dodgers. His last major league season came in 2016.

 

Crawford "allegedly" choking?

[Kimmi]

Crawford "allegedly" choking?

 

Haha. I see what you did there.

 

Serious allegations against Crawford. He deserves the benefit of the doubt, for now. Let's hope that they are not true.

[a700hitter]

Crawford might be at the top of my list of least favorite Red Sox players.

[Kimmi]

Crawford might be at the top of my list of least favorite Red Sox players.

 

I had no problem with Crawford. Didn't really like the length of the contract, but had no problem with him being on the team. Supposedly, he was a great character guy with the Rays, which is part of the reason the Sox signed him.

[a700hitter]

I had no problem with Crawford. Didn't really like the length of the contract, but had no problem with him being on the team. Supposedly, he was a great character guy with the Rays, which is part of the reason the Sox signed him.

I think he was the biggest dog to wear the Red Sox uniform.

[Elktonnick]

I had no problem with Crawford. Didn't really like the length of the contract, but had no problem with him being on the team. Supposedly, he was a great character guy with the Rays, which is part of the reason the Sox signed him.

 

Crawford is certainly going through a rough patch. A five year old child drowned in his pool last month. The two incidents are unrelated but it isn't a good time for him right now.

[jad]

Crawford might be at the top of my list of least favorite Red Sox players.

 

Yeah, I can see why. But I give him a lot of slack for calling out a particular teammate (truly one of my least favorite RS players). Can't remember what the issue was--he was asked something about the team or team chemistry and told reporters that they would have to ask 'the captain'.

[notin]

Watching KBO this morning (LG vs Kiwoon), and Tim Kijurkian came on. He said there would be a season - guessing 48 games - and expected it to start in late July/early August timeframe. He drew this conclusion from speaking to some unnamed source...

[Kimmi]

Crawford is certainly going through a rough patch. A five year old child drowned in his pool last month. The two incidents are unrelated but it isn't a good time for him right now.

 

I didn't know about the child drowning. Was he found negligent in any way? Regardless, you are right about it not being a good time for him. Having a child die on your property would be hard to live with even if you had no fault in the death whatsoever.

[Kimmi]

Watching KBO this morning (LG vs Kiwoon), and Tim Kijurkian came on. He said there would be a season - guessing 48 games - and expected it to start in late July/early August timeframe. He drew this conclusion from speaking to some unnamed source...

 

I just read this morning that Manfred has the ability to mandate a season, which I wasn't aware of. So yes, it seems like at the very least there will be some kind of season mandated by him.

 

Jon Heyman

 

@JonHeyman

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6h

 

 

Continue to believe there will be baseball. Manfred’s ability to mandate a short season would seem to almost ensure that, barring Covid spike. Manfred prefers negotiated deal w/players but has in back pocket ability to mandate season of any length, provided player pay is prorated

 

If Manfred does mandate short season — 48 games is lowest # heard — players would have to play provided conditions are safe. Players recourse? They could file grievance w/claim MLB failed to play as many games as possible and hope to open the books, and decline expanded playoffs

 

The commissioner’s ability to mandate short season — 48 games would mean 29.6% of pay across board — seems to give MLB some leverage. Union has stated there’s no reason to negotiate anything lower than prorated pay. But maybe they’d do 60 games prorated or 20% paycut over 82?

 

Commissioner surely prefers to reach agreement with players rather than mandating truncated season: 1) nothing good comes from fighting w/ players who could grieve such a call; the game is nothing w/o players 2) very short season will raise objection by some over its legitimacy

[notin]

I just read this morning that Manfred has the ability to mandate a season, which I wasn't aware of. So yes, it seems like at the very least there will be some kind of season mandated by him.

 

Jon Heyman

 

@JonHeyman

·

6h

 

 

Continue to believe there will be baseball. Manfred’s ability to mandate a short season would seem to almost ensure that, barring Covid spike. Manfred prefers negotiated deal w/players but has in back pocket ability to mandate season of any length, provided player pay is prorated

 

If Manfred does mandate short season — 48 games is lowest # heard — players would have to play provided conditions are safe. Players recourse? They could file grievance w/claim MLB failed to play as many games as possible and hope to open the books, and decline expanded playoffs

 

The commissioner’s ability to mandate short season — 48 games would mean 29.6% of pay across board — seems to give MLB some leverage. Union has stated there’s no reason to negotiate anything lower than prorated pay. But maybe they’d do 60 games prorated or 20% paycut over 82?

 

Commissioner surely prefers to reach agreement with players rather than mandating truncated season: 1) nothing good comes from fighting w/ players who could grieve such a call; the game is nothing w/o players 2) very short season will raise objection by some over its legitimacy

 

Kurkjian did say it would be a legitimate season and would count. There will be a legitimate champion. And if Albert Pujols passes Willie Mays for career home runs, then Mays moves down a notch. (Pujols is only 4 HR behind.)

 

But if, say, Jeff McNeil hits .400, or Jake deGrom posts an ERA below 1.12, that would not and should count as a legitimate record...

[Elktonnick]

Kurkjian did say it would be a legitimate season and would count. There will be a legitimate champion. And if Albert Pujols passes Willie Mays for career home runs, then Mays moves down a notch. (Pujols is only 4 HR behind.)

 

But if, say, Jeff McNeil hits .400, or Jake deGrom posts an ERA below 1.12, that would not and should count as a legitimate record...

That what asterixes are for.

[jad]

Kurkjian did say it would be a legitimate season and would count. There will be a legitimate champion. And if Albert Pujols passes Willie Mays for career home runs, then Mays moves down a notch. (Pujols is only 4 HR behind.)

 

But if, say, Jeff McNeil hits .400, or Jake deGrom posts an ERA below 1.12, that would not and should count as a legitimate record...

 

It won't, because he won't have enough at-bats. Still, what does 'legitimate record' mean in the first place? This is nothing to worry about. We just want to see baseball, not tabulate statistics.

[notin]

It won't, because he won't have enough at-bats. Still, what does 'legitimate record' mean in the first place? This is nothing to worry about. We just want to see baseball, not tabulate statistics.

 

Well, he is unlikely to get 502 plate appearances. But if he gets 201 hits 201+ at bats, he could “Tony Gwynn Rule” himself into a legitimate .400 average....

[notin]

I had no problem with Crawford. Didn't really like the length of the contract, but had no problem with him being on the team. Supposedly, he was a great character guy with the Rays, which is part of the reason the Sox signed him.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/carl-crawford-arrested-domestic-violence-charge-dodgers-red-sox-rays-mlb-220010691.html

[Bellhorn04]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/carl-crawford-arrested-domestic-violence-charge-dodgers-red-sox-rays-mlb-220010691.html

 

Kimmi already posted the story on the previous page?

[notin]

Kimmi already posted the story on the previous page?

 

 

I’m slower, apparently...

[Bellhorn04]

I’m slower, apparently...

 

A day late and a dollar short!

[notin]

A day late and a dollar short!

 

Oh if I was only one dollar short...

[dgalehouse]

I’m slower, apparently...

 

You are losing a little off the fastball. That's often the start of a decline. Better work on the breaking stuff.

[notin]

You are losing a little off the fastball. That's often the start of a decline. Better work on the breaking stuff.

 

Nope. I'm just gonna learn to hit like Lefty O'Doul. (How is he not in Cooperstown?)

[Kimmi]

Kurkjian did say it would be a legitimate season and would count. There will be a legitimate champion. And if Albert Pujols passes Willie Mays for career home runs, then Mays moves down a notch. (Pujols is only 4 HR behind.)

 

But if, say, Jeff McNeil hits .400, or Jake deGrom posts an ERA below 1.12, that would not and should count as a legitimate record...

 

Yeah, in terms of record books for best seasons ever, any of those rate stats would have to be taken with a grain of salt . We can still give the players credit for their shortened season's accomplishments, though.

[Kimmi]

I’m slower, apparently...

 

Which leads me to wonder why you think we were talking about Crawford in the first place? LOL

[dgalehouse]

Based on his play for the Rays , Crawford seemed like a good acquisition at the time. Unfortunately, it did not work out . It happens. The current allegations certainly do raise questions about his character.

[Michigan adam]

My opinion is the players need to give here. If the owners are only going to get 80 games with no fans, concessions, parking, etc then they are cutting their revenue substantially more than just the prorated game day checks. The players want every penny they can get, as do the owners, but should be a simply calculation to what percentage of revenue they would get and the split should be based on that.

[jad]

My opinion is the players need to give here. If the owners are only going to get 80 games with no fans, concessions, parking, etc then they are cutting their revenue substantially more than just the prorated game day checks. The players want every penny they can get, as do the owners, but should be a simply calculation to what percentage of revenue they would get and the split should be based on that.

 

If the owners would open their books for auditing, and they had given any sign in previous negotiations that there was reason for the players to trust them, and if too they made a written vow that 'revenue-sharing' was a one-year proposition and would NOT be part of their proposals in the next CBA ... then I'd be with you. But this is a pipe dream. The owners clearly want to eliminate as many season games as they can (thus reducing what the players get--they claim each game costs them around 600K), and still have play-offs (a major source of income for owners, not so for players). They haven't yet made a significant concession to the players, nor shown a willingness to abide by their agreement in March.