A Realistic View at 2020: Part I

[notin]

I like Yolmer Sanchez, who isn't a terrible bat for a second baseman; two season ago he led the AL with 10 triples and had 52 extra-base hits, about what Pedroia averaged in the four years before Manny was being Machado. Problem is Yolmer will make around 5 mil...

 

If the Sox have to fill 2B for less than $5mill, I have to wonder what the options are...

[moonslav59]

As of right now, is Lin the starting 2b? IMO he is their best internal option, assuming Pedroia is a no-go...

 

I think, without any moves, Dalbec starts at 1B and Chavis at 2B. Just my opinion.

[moonslav59]

If the Sox have to fill 2B for less than $5mill, I have to wonder what the options are...

 

It might have to be less than $1M... maybe a trade.

[OH FOY]

Triple AAA stats Career.

Lin .268 BA ,11 HRS, 642 AB's 26 in Feb.

MH .290 BA, 11 HRS, 541 AB's, just turned 27 in Sept.

 

Infatuation with Lin always amazes me.

Edited December 3, 2019 by OH FOY!

[notin]

I like Yolmer Sanchez, who isn't a terrible bat for a second baseman; two season ago he led the AL with 10 triples and had 52 extra-base hits, about what Pedroia averaged in the four years before Manny was being Machado. Problem is Yolmer will make around 5 mil...

 

If the Sox have the money, another really good external option might be Jonathan Schoop. Last year, he signed a one year deal for $7.5mill. He also played 2B with Bogaerts at SS on the Dutch National team...

[notin]

Triple AAA stats Career.

Lin .268 BA ,11 HRS, 642 AB's 26 in Feb.

MH .290 BA, 11 HRS, 541 AB's, just turned 27 in Sept.

 

Lin is a better defensive player. And he is capable of playing more positions, including SS. Plus Marco is no longer an internal option...

[mvp 78]

Triple AAA stats Career.

Lin .268 BA ,11 HRS, 642 AB's 26 in Feb.

MH .290 BA, 11 HRS, 541 AB's, just turned 27 in Sept.

 

Lin can also play OF in a pinch.

[harmony]

I think, without any moves, Dalbec starts at 1B and Chavis at 2B. Just my opinion.

Today's column from Boston Globe writer Peter Abraham suggests that Bobby Dalbec will be given an opportunity at first base:

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2019/12/01/soxfirstbase/xHJyGp0qqAUdtip9dgX76L/story.html?et_rid=1739401789&s_campaign=108stitches:newsletter

[notin]

I think, without any moves, Dalbec starts at 1B and Chavis at 2B. Just my opinion.

 

Possible, but then they might want Dalbec to get in some actual time at AAA. There is no rush with him.

 

I actually don't like the idea of bringing up Dalbec to play 1B. He is cheap, and fits the budget. But 1B is typically much easier to fill and if he cannot hit LB pitching or struggles right out of the gate, what then? What if he is hitting .125 on May 1st?

 

He's also one of their better pieces of trade bait, and might be better off being dealt for a 2b..

[mvp 78]

If Opening Day is a platoon of Ockimey/Dalbec......................

[jacksonianmarch]

It also makes no sense from a service time perspective to start his clock in March. The sox should put him in AAA, see how he does in April and bring him up in May. If the kid becomes a rock star, it will buy you an extra year of control

[Bellhorn04]

If Opening Day is a platoon of Ockimey/Dalbec......................

 

But we'll be under the 208!

[jacksonianmarch]

The sox right now, per spotrac, are $6 mil over the lux tax limit. Dealing off Bradley for a minor leaguer will get the sox under. But what do they do for 1b, 2b, CF, SP and pen?

[mvp 78]

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/free-agent-tracker

 

Have never seen this Fangraphs FA Tracker. I'm into it. It's better than the MLBTR I've monitored in the past.

[notin]

It might have to be less than $1M... maybe a trade.

 

Dalbec to Texas for Nick Solak, assuming the Rangers cannot sign Rendon? BTV says this trade heavily favors the Rangers, so they can add something in. (Kolby Allard?)

[mvp 78]

The sox right now, per spotrac, are $6 mil over the lux tax limit. Dealing off Bradley for a minor leaguer will get the sox under. But what do they do for 1b, 2b, CF, SP and pen?

 

Swihart

Chavis

Ellsbury

Buchholz

[notin]

The sox right now, per spotrac, are $6 mil over the lux tax limit. Dealing off Bradley for a minor leaguer will get the sox under. But what do they do for 1b, 2b, CF, SP and pen?

 

That has to have assumptions about the salaries of Betts, Benintendi, Rodriguez, Barnes, Workman, and Hembree. They might end up under the limit if that collective group comes in $6mill under. That's actually only $1mill per on average...

[jacksonianmarch]

That has to have assumptions about the salaries of Betts, Benintendi, Rodriguez, Barnes, Workman, and Hembree. They might end up under the limit if that collective group comes in $6mill under. That's actually only $1mill per on average...

 

It could also be $6 mil more if they underestimated

[notin]

It could also be $6 mil more if they underestimated

 

Yes, that was an implied possibility...

[moonslav59]

Possible, but then they might want Dalbec to get in some actual time at AAA. There is no rush with him.

 

I actually don't like the idea of bringing up Dalbec to play 1B. He is cheap, and fits the budget. But 1B is typically much easier to fill and if he cannot hit LB pitching or struggles right out of the gate, what then? What if he is hitting .125 on May 1st?

 

He's also one of their better pieces of trade bait, and might be better off being dealt for a 2b..

 

Again, my comments are based on us making no moves. With 6 open roster slots, that's impossible.

 

If we don't add a 1Bman, Dalbec could play as much in Boston as AAA, so it's not about him getting ABs.

 

If we add a 1Bman, then yes, I'd prefer Dalbec start in AAA.

[moonslav59]

The sox right now, per spotrac, are $6 mil over the lux tax limit. Dealing off Bradley for a minor leaguer will get the sox under. But what do they do for 1b, 2b, CF, SP and pen?

 

Dealing JBJ will not be enough, if we want to sign some decent players.

 

I think we trade JBJ and one from:

 

Price

Eovaldi

Betts

JD

 

We could afford to add Dalbec or Chavis, since they are close to be redundant.

 

We could trade 2, if we want to really go rebuild mode.

 

More likely, we will wait to the deadline or trade one this winter and maybe more at the deadline.

[Bellhorn04]

The sox right now, per spotrac, are $6 mil over the lux tax limit. Dealing off Bradley for a minor leaguer will get the sox under. But what do they do for 1b, 2b, CF, SP and pen?

 

Don't go by suckrac. Cot's Contracts has us over by 13.5.

[moonslav59]

Don't go by suckrac. Cot's Contracts has us over by 13.5.

 

That was before losing Leon & others right?

 

$3.5 Leon

1.0 Osich

0.7 Marco

 

All are still listed on Cot's. Now, those players are replace by $600K min wage player ($1.8M total) and the difference might be about $3.5M for the 3.

 

That leaves us about $10.5M over, which trading JBJ would even out.

 

We could subtract another $1M by DFA'ing or trading Hembree.

 

Edited December 3, 2019 by moonslav59

[notin]

That was before losing Leon & others right?

 

$3.5 Leon

1.0 Osich

0.7 Marco

 

All are still listed on Cot's. Now, those players are replace by $600K min wage player ($1.8M total) and the difference might be about $3.5M for the 3.

 

That leaves us about $10.5M over, which trading JBJ would even out.

 

We could subtract another $1M by DFA'ing or trading Hembree.

 

 

Except for the $3mill-ish minimum for the players 6 players who fill out the 40 man roster...

[d-money]

Do the skankess have a luxury tax? They’re meeting up with cole.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Possible, but then they might want Dalbec to get in some actual time at AAA. There is no rush with him.

 

I actually don't like the idea of bringing up Dalbec to play 1B. He is cheap, and fits the budget. But 1B is typically much easier to fill and if he cannot hit LB pitching or struggles right out of the gate, what then? What if he is hitting .125 on May 1st?

 

He's also one of their better pieces of trade bait, and might be better off being dealt for a 2b..

 

If Dalbec is the Sox' best trade bait candidate, it is because he's a high-ranked prospect (albeit on Boston's list), a redundant piece with the younger Devers already established at third, and that he has yet to play in the bigs. That's last point jibes with not rushing him, but also not exposing him -- and not only to his arb clock. It's the maybe what-if that makes him more valuable sight-unseen: will he be a Rizzo or Lars Anderson? a Bagwell or Middlebrooks? a Vazquez or Swihart?

 

On the flipside, if he makes the 26-man and is crushing it on May 1st, does that take him off the table?

[Bellhorn04]

Except for the $3mill-ish minimum for the players 6 players who fill out the 40 man roster...

 

That's figured in.

[Bellhorn04]

Do the skankess have a luxury tax? They’re meeting up with cole.

 

They met with Machado last year, too.

 

Will they meet Cole's price is the question.

[moonslav59]

Except for the $3mill-ish minimum for the players 6 players who fill out the 40 man roster...

 

I think they figure in min salaries for all remaining slots.

[moonslav59]

Do the skankess have a luxury tax? They’re meeting up with cole.

 

They reset, so their tax would e just 20% for 2020.