When does DD push the panic button..??

[mvp 78]

They gave up 9 runs last night.

 

Their bullpen blew the game the night before, twice.

 

They gave up 6 runs 2 nights ago.

 

Thats the offenses fault?

 

Nope. It's the OF defense!

[Slasher9]

Nope. It's the OF defense!

 

i agree.

and WTF Cora sticking with a couple pitchers too long.

[notin]

Nope. It's the OF defense!

 

 

And definitely not the walks!!!

[Slasher9]

Something tells me you don’t expect a numerical answer there...

 

hahaha.well....it's usually a number followed by a letter.

ex: 36D

[bosoxmal]

Panic? Pretty strong language No, We fig deep and hire a few real baseball people who can tell DD what happened to repair, or get rid of, the chronic non-pergormers. :ike Mookey. Like half of the pitching staff. Yes, and like Devers, Peirce, Nunez and Bradly. Why are JD and Moreland laid up with the same old back spasms?

 

I still have fith in DD, but none of the bench people..

[moonslav59]

MLB Trade Rumors asks: Is there a trade market for Edwin Encarnacion?

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/06/is-there-a-trade-market-for-edwin-encarnacion.html

 

How about this?

 

To:SEA

Y Guriel

Beni

 

To: BOS

EE + Cash

Santana

 

To: HOU

Moreland

B Johnson (IL)

 

[notin]

How about this?

 

To:SEA

Y Guriel

Beni

 

To: BOS

EE + Cash

Santana

 

To: HOU

Moreland

B Johnson (IL)

 

 

 

Does Houston have any incentive to be involved? They trade Gurriel and get back Moreland and Johnson, which seems like a lateral move at best...

[moonslav59]

Does Houston have any incentive to be involved? They trade Gurriel and get back Moreland and Johnson, which seems like a lateral move at best...

 

Maybe they view a healthy Moreland as being better than the slumping YG.

 

Maybe not.

[S5Dewey]

hahaha.well....it's usually a number followed by a letter.

ex: 36D

 

You're a sick man, and I mean that in the best way possible.

 

I'm just not sure which is sicker, that you're aware of that or that you can quote it at a moment's notice.

[harmony]

Maybe they view a healthy Moreland as being better than the slumping YG.

 

Maybe not.

Perhaps Seattle could pay full freight in sending Edwin Encarnacion to the Astros for a good prospect package. Houston was a rumored eventual destination when the Mariners acquired Encarnacion last December.

 

The Astros have the prospects whom the Red Sox lack. Encarnacion is most valuable to a club looking for that last piece to push the team over the top. That club might be the Astros.

 

Or not.

 

The Astros have a robust team OPS+ of 119* despite an OPS+ of 85 from first baseman Yuli Gurriel and an OPS+ of 74 from designated hitter Tyler White.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2019.shtml

 

There might be a fit for Encarnacion.

 

* Houston has a team ERA+ of 124

Edited June 13, 2019 by harmony

[notin]

Maybe they view a healthy Moreland as being better than the slumping YG.

 

Maybe not.

 

 

If you were GM if the Astros and sitting atop a boatload of prospects, is Moreland the guy you’d target to upgrade at 1b?

[jacksonianmarch]

If you were GM if the Astros and sitting atop a boatload of prospects, is Moreland the guy you’d target to upgrade at 1b?

 

Not at all. EE is the guy. Or if the Guardians fall out further, then Carlos Santana

[moonslav59]

If you were GM if the Astros and sitting atop a boatload of prospects, is Moreland the guy you’d target to upgrade at 1b?

 

The 'Stros are stingy with their prospects, but I'm sure they'd rather have EE than MM.

 

Remember, they get BRIAN Freakin' JOHNSON, too! (LOL)

[Swiharts Ghost]

begs the Question ? Dave what the hell are you waiting for ? Do it go get our guy Edwin .

[harmony]

begs the Question ? Dave what the hell are you waiting for ? Do it go get our guy Edwin .

Seattle has Edwin Encarnacion under contract.

 

How to the Red Sox pry Encarnacion away from the Mariners? A package headed by Boston prospect Bobby Dalbec would be unlikely to land Seattle infielder Tim Beckham.

[moonslav59]

Seattle has Edwin Encarnacion under contract.

 

How to the Red Sox pry Encarnacion away from the Mariners? A package headed by Boston prospect Bobby Dalbec would be unlikely to land Seattle infielder Tim Beckham.

 

Would you take JBJ, Duran, DHern, Houk and Chatham for Santana, EE + Cash?

 

What if Casas was subbed for one of the prospects above?

[harmony]

Would you take JBJ, Duran, DHern, Houk and Chatham for Santana, EE + Cash?

 

What if Casas was subbed for one of the prospects above?

No and no.

 

Seattle would lose a year of team control in the swap of Domingo Santana and Jackie Bradley Jr. (who is not under team control through the target 2021 season).

 

The Mariners would have little interest in the spare parts of a lowly ranked farm system:

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/top-26-prospects-boston-red-sox/

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/pre-draft-farm-system-rankings/

[moonslav59]

No and no.

 

Seattle would lose a year of team control in the swap of Domingo Santana and Jackie Bradley Jr. (who is not under team control through the target 2021 season).

 

The Mariners would have little interest in the spare parts of a lowly ranked farm system:

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/top-26-prospects-boston-red-sox/

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/pre-draft-farm-system-rankings/

 

Casas and Duran are ranked highly.

[harmony]

Casas and Duran are ranked highly.

How highly and where?

 

As of June 4 Triston Casas was only "on the cusp of the Top 100" at Baseball America despite being the top-ranked prospect at SoxProspects:

 

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/two-top-100-prospects-highlight-2019-south-atlantic-league-all-star-rosters/

 

http://soxprospects.com/

 

It's a minor factor, but first baseman Triston Casas and outfielder Jarren Duran play positions where Seattle has organizational depth.

[Bellhorn04]

The Red Sox don't match up on an EE deal in any way. We don't have what the Mariners want, and a RH slugger should be far from our biggest priority.

 

Our obvious need is the bullpen. On offense, we need the current guys to perform to their abilities.

[notin]

The Red Sox don't match up on an EE deal in any way. We don't have what the Mariners want, and a RH slugger should be far from our biggest priority.

 

Our obvious need is the bullpen. On offense, we need the current guys to perform to their abilities.

 

 

And I’m not all that certain DD is interested in Encarnacion. He had a chance to sign him when Encarnacion expressed interest in coming to Boston to replace fellow countryman David Ortiz at DH, which Edwin said would be an honor. Yet DD still passed. I doubt 2 years later DD is willing to give up prospects to get him for the same salary and only for 3 months. And the $20mill salary next year might not be as much of a selling point as the Mariners think, and is certainly a hefty price to pay for the right to offer a QO, which might be accepted by a 37yo DH, since a QO at that age is a likely career ender.

 

The Sox need relief pitching. The Mariners have none...

[notin]

BoSox Injection yesterday listed their “5 Players That Could Be Traded” to improve the Red Sox.

 

For those who skipped it, they were:

 

5. Eduardo Nunez

4. Steve Pearce

3. Tzu-Wei Lin

2. Sam Travis

1. Bobby Dalbec

 

 

They kind of copped out a lot on Travis and Lin, citing they’d have to be part of a package, which, with no further specifics, applies to everyone in the Sox minor leagues. I think what they need to say is “could be the token exchange piece another team takes back when the Sox agree to a contract they want to get out of.” Otherwise, package with who? The guys listed 2-5 together aren’t that much of a package.

 

Dalbec has a couple reasons to interest other teams. But I don’t expect an overwhelming return, but certainly someone who could contribute better than one of the incumbents...

[mvp 78]

BoSox Injection yesterday listed their “5 Players That Could Be Traded” to improve the Red Sox.

 

For those who skipped it, they were:

 

5. Eduardo Nunez

4. Steve Pearce

3. Tzu-Wei Lin

2. Sam Travis

1. Bobby Dalbec

 

 

They kind of copped out a lot on Travis and Lin, citing they’d have to be part of a package, which, with no further specifics, applies to everyone in the Sox minor leagues. I think what they need to say is “could be the token exchange piece another team takes back when the Sox agree to a contract they want to get out of.” Otherwise, package with who? The guys listed 2-5 together aren’t that much of a package.

 

Dalbec has a couple reasons to interest other teams. But I don’t expect an overwhelming return, but certainly someone who could contribute better than one of the incumbents...

 

Dalbec is going to start mashing in AA really soon. His April was rough, but he's had 12 Hr's since and doesn't have a platoon split. Maybe April in Maine isn't a great place to play?

[notin]

Dalbec is going to start mashing in AA really soon. His April was rough, but he's had 12 Hr's since and doesn't have a platoon split. Maybe April in Maine isn't a great place to play?

 

I think Dalbec is gone by August. It’s just a question of how much another team values him and what they’re willing to give up for his future...

[mvp 78]

I think Dalbec is gone by August. It’s just a question of how much another team values him and what they’re willing to give up for his future...

 

If Sox are 5 games out, they make a move. If not, I bet the don't dump any prospects especially with concerns over JD and Mookie re-signing. Is Dalbec athletic enough to play RF? He's got the arm for it.

[oldtimer]

I don't think DD should push any panic buttons at all. The Sox are only marginally likely to make the playoffs and anyone they can pick up that would make a difference would be costly in resources and money. If they can pick up a RP for cash at the trading deadline that would be as far as I recommend they go. It is likely that we will need to do a restructure of the team for next year, and getting rid of even more of our prospects to get an older and costly player doesn't make sense. If they could pick up a younger quality second baseman with control for a couple of years, maybe that would make sense, otherwise no.

[notin]

If Sox are 5 games out, they make a move. If not, I bet the don't dump any prospects especially with concerns over JD and Mookie re-signing. Is Dalbec athletic enough to play RF? He's got the arm for it.

 

 

Well, they’re 2.5 out from a spot in the wild card game right now...

[notin]

If Sox are 5 games out, they make a move. If not, I bet the don't dump any prospects especially with concerns over JD and Mookie re-signing. Is Dalbec athletic enough to play RF? He's got the arm for it.

 

 

I think Dalbec could handle any corner spot defensively, although RF at Fenway might be a challenge. But will his small scale TTO offense keep him in the lineup? Especially as a replacement for Betts?

 

But then, don’t you think RF is locked up for the next season and a half?

[jacksonianmarch]

Anyone thinking the sox are gonna blow this up are crazy. Your GM is not a "blow it up" kind of guy unless management forces a firesale. If the sox fade this year, he will likely be going after 2020 with a similar squad and hope for better results. If anything, the sox will add this season. If they fade out of the race, they will likely just deal off parts that wont be on the team in 2020 (Porcello, Moreland), or would add parts that would figure into 2020

[mvp 78]

I think Dalbec could handle any corner spot defensively, although RF at Fenway might be a challenge. But will his small scale TTO offense keep him in the lineup? Especially as a replacement for Betts?

 

But then, don’t you think RF is locked up for the next season and a half?

 

I don't expect Dalbec to be up full time until 2021. Maybe a second half part time player in 2020 if things break right?