When does DD push the panic button..??

[YastrzemskI]

Anyone else have any ideas for a trade? This team is 34-33 and going nowhere fast. This loss kinda got to me tonight. This is exactly the type of loss that we can expect in the post season if we happen to fall ass backwards into it this year. Blown saves drive me bananas.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Anyone else have any ideas for a trade? This team is 34-33 and going nowhere fast. This loss kinda got to me tonight. This is exactly the type of loss that we can expect in the post season if we happen to fall ass backwards into it this year. Blown saves drive me bananas.

 

The closer by committee is a Joke we need a freaking Closer and We need Pop in this lineup badly ...Is there 1 team that can give us both ? I want an established closer no rookies or projects and I want a proven Slugger.Edwin freaking Rakes at Fenway .how many 1b can a team have though ?

Edited June 11, 2019 by Swiharts Ghost

[harmony]

The closer by committee is a Joke we need a freaking Closer and We need Pop in this lineup badly ...Is there 1 team that can give us both ? I want an established closer no rookies or projects and I want a proven Slugger.Edwin freaking Rakes at Fenway .how many 1b can a team have though ?

Whom should the Red Sox trade for an established closer and "Edwin freaking Rakes"?

 

The Red Sox are thin on trade assets.

[moonslav59]

Anyone else have any ideas for a trade? This team is 34-33 and going nowhere fast. This loss kinda got to me tonight. This is exactly the type of loss that we can expect in the post season if we happen to fall ass backwards into it this year. Blown saves drive me bananas.

 

Here's a wild fantasy-type suggestion.... (Harmony will have a field day with this.)

 

Edwin Encarcion (20 HRs so far) is owed $20M and has a $20M option for next year ($5M buyout). If we wait for the halfway point, he'll be owed $10M. Word is the Mariners are willing to chip in cash to deal some players away.

 

Maybe they take Pearce (owed $3M at the halfway point). Ask Seattle to chip in $2M this year and $5M next year for the buyout. That makes the budget hit $5M. We'd have to give a serious prospect or two to even the deal for the M's, but they do save a lot of money. So, Pearce, DHernandez & Duran for EE & cash?

 

Then, trade Moreland (save $3.25M at the halfway point) to Houston for a prospect that we flip in a trade with Dalbec, Feltman & Houck for Wil Smith (owed $2.1M at halfway point).

 

We'd still be under the max line, but our farm would be further depleted.

 

1. Betts RF

2. Bogey SS

3. Encarnacion 1B

4. JD DH

5. Devers 3B

6. Beni LF

7. Chavis 2B

8. Vaz C

9. JBJ CF

Bench: Nunez, Holt, Marco, Leon

 

SP: Sale, Price, Porcello, ERod, Eovaldi

RP: Smith, Barnes, Workman, Hembree, Walden, Brasier, Velazquez/Johnson/???

 

 

Edited June 11, 2019 by moonslav59

[Swiharts Ghost]

so Edwin does seem like the target .Dave D early bird gets the worm make it happen and promote Workman to Closer effective immedietly . Edited June 11, 2019 by Swiharts Ghost

[harmony]

Here's a wild fantasy-type suggestion.... (Harmony will have a field day with this.)

 

Edwin Encarcion (20 HRs so far) is owed $20M and has a $20M option for next year ($5M buyout). If we wait for the halfway point, he'll be owed $10M. Word is the Mariners are willing to chip in cash to deal some players away.

 

Maybe they take Pearce (owed $3M at the halfway point). Ask Seattle to chip in $2M this year and $5M next year for the buyout. That makes the budget hit $5M. We'd have to give a serious prospect or two to even the deal for the M's, but they do save a lot of money. So, Pearce, DHernandez & Duran for EE & cash?

 

Then, trade Moreland (save $3.25M at the halfway point) to Houston for a prospect that we flip in a trade with Dalbec, Feltman & Houck for Wil Smith (owed $2.1M at halfway point).

 

We'd still be under the max line, but our farm would be further depleted.

 

1. Betts RF

2. Bogey SS

3. Encarnacion 1B

4. JD DH

5. Devers 3B

6. Beni LF

7. Chavis 2B

8. Vaz C

9. JBJ CF

Bench: Nunez, Holt, Marco, Leon

 

SP: Sale, Price, Porcello, ERod, Eovaldi

RP: Smith, Barnes, Workman, Hembree, Walden, Brasier, Velazquez/Johnson/???

 

 

The Seattle Mariners probably are willing to pay down the money owed Edwin Encarnacion for a better return from a prospect-laden true contender such as the Houston Astros or Tampa Bay Rays.

 

Steve Pearce, Darwinzon Hernandez and Jarren Duran is one unattractive package.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Here's a wild fantasy-type suggestion.... (Harmony will have a field day with this.)

 

Edwin Encarcion (20 HRs so far) is owed $20M and has a $20M option for next year ($5M buyout). If we wait for the halfway point, he'll be owed $10M. Word is the Mariners are willing to chip in cash to deal some players away.

 

Maybe they take Pearce (owed $3M at the halfway point). Ask Seattle to chip in $2M this year and $5M next year for the buyout. That makes the budget hit $5M. We'd have to give a serious prospect or two to even the deal for the M's, but they do save a lot of money. So, Pearce, DHernandez & Duran for EE & cash?

 

Then, trade Moreland (save $3.25M at the halfway point) to Houston for a prospect that we flip in a trade with Dalbec, Feltman & Houck for Wil Smith (owed $2.1M at halfway point).

 

We'd still be under the max line, but our farm would be further depleted.

 

1. Betts RF

2. Bogey SS

3. Encarnacion 1B

4. JD DH

5. Devers 3B

6. Beni LF

7. Chavis 2B

8. Vaz C

9. JBJ CF

Bench: Nunez, Holt, Marco, Leon

 

SP: Sale, Price, Porcello, ERod, Eovaldi

RP: Smith, Barnes, Workman, Hembree, Walden, Brasier, Velazquez/Johnson/???

 

 

 

Really well done moon you sir could be a GM

[Swiharts Ghost]

The Seattle Mariners probably are willing to pay down the money owed Edwin Encarnacion for a better return from a prospect-laden true contender such as the Houston Astros or Tampa Bay Rays.

 

Steve Pearce, Darwinzon Hernandez and Jarren Duran is one unattractive package.

Lol I think Chavis ,Darwin would land Edwin but who am I to say Harmony .

[moonslav59]

The Seattle Mariners probably are willing to pay down the money owed Edwin Encarnacion for a better return from a prospect-laden true contender such as the Houston Astros or Tampa Bay Rays.

 

Steve Pearce, Darwinzon Hernandez and Jarren Duran is one unattractive package.

 

It's going to be a buyers market this summer with so many sellers finding out they are sellers very early.

 

You're probably right, but it comes down to how much the Seattle GM values DHern & Duran. (Pearce is just a salary dump addition that maybe Seattle can flip for a prospect.)

[moonslav59]

I do think Moreland is a fit for the Astros, but they won't part with a good pen arm, even if we throw in a prospect.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Does Matt Barnes have any trade Value ? To me he's got great stuff but not great makeup for a closer .Maybe Matt B and Lottery ticket lands Edwin if we call.

[harmony]

Does Matt Barnes have any trade Value ? To me he's got great stuff but not great makeup for a closer .Maybe Matt B and Lottery ticket lands Edwin if we call.

I suspect the Mariners will set their sights higher than two and a half seasons of a nearly 29-year-old reliever.

 

The Red Sox may have neither the pieces nor financial flexibility to make a competitive offer for Edwin Encarnacion.

[harmony]

Lol I think Chavis ,Darwin would land Edwin but who am I to say Harmony .

That pair might not land a season and a half of Seattle infielder Tim Beckham.

[Hitch]

No panic button this year. Deal off an asset if you can get back some really good prospects, but I think they'll be able to compete in 2020.

 

This. If we fall away we deal Moreland, Porcello and possibly JD if he's making noises about opting out. Get some prospects back and go again with the core next year and probably try and re-sign JD.

 

The only possible big move would be if we decided to move Mookie. Highly unlikely but we may be making plans to go on without his huge contract (or the worry that he won't sign with us). The prospect haul we'd get for such a player at this years deadline would certainly be enticing.

 

I personally would be looking at what we could get for Price - although I don't expect DD is. He's good again this year but I can't shake of the feeling he is about to fall off a cliff with injuries. There's a lot of miles in that arm and we are still on the hook for big money. I feel like we've got the best out of the contract and we might be in a position to deal off the downside of it.

[Hitch]

If the Red Sox fall short of a split of the four-game series with Texas the Sox will need to work actively on a concurrent plan.

 

They won't have been sitting around, waiting to see what they react to. They will have plans set up ready for many different scenarios already.

[jacksonianmarch]

No panic button this year. Deal off an asset if you can get back some really good prospects, but I think they'll be able to compete in 2020.

 

Imagine what your rotation will look like when Porcello is out of it?

[Noles_1335]

what if we were to go after Vazquez from Pitt. His salary isn't anything crazy and he always seems to get the job done for a typical doormat team in the division. Or we go for a guy like Alex Colome from Chicago... he might be a low salary guy we can pull away without having to give up too much in the long run!

[mvp 78]

Imagine what your rotation will look like when Porcello is out of it?

 

The Brian Johnson experience.

[notin]

what if we were to go after Vazquez from Pitt. His salary isn't anything crazy and he always seems to get the job done for a typical doormat team in the division. Or we go for a guy like Alex Colome from Chicago... he might be a low salary guy we can pull away without having to give up too much in the long run!

 

 

The White Sox are right behind Boston and may not go into seller mode. The Pirates, while likely out of it, could easily want a hefty package for Vazquez that simply might be unaffordable to Boston.

 

With our limited prospects, the Sox might be better focusing on relievers like Shane Greene and Mychal Givens (who is a good pitcher but having a rough season)...

[Slasher9]

[harmony]

I suspect the Mariners will set their sights higher than two and a half seasons of a nearly 29-year-old reliever.

 

The Red Sox may have neither the pieces nor financial flexibility to make a competitive offer for Edwin Encarnacion.

The Red Sox may have the payroll flexibility to trade three and a half seasons of Andrew Benintendi to Seattle for two and a half years of outfielder Domingo Santana (2019 salary $1.95 million) and two and a half years of reliever Hunter Strickland (2019 salary $1.3 million).

 

The Sox would pay a high price in talent for a big bat and a potential closer.

 

That's my wild fantasy-type suggestion.

[mvp 78]

The Red Sox may have the payroll flexibility to trade three and a half seasons of Andrew Benintendi to Seattle for two and a half years of outfielder Domingo Santana (2019 salary $1.95 million) and two and a half years of reliever Hunter Strickland (2019 salary $1.3 million).

 

The Sox would pay a high price in talent for a big bat and a potential closer.

 

That's my wild fantasy-type suggestion.

 

Sounds more like a wet dream for you. Terrible trade for the Sox.

[TylerD]

Imagine what your rotation will look like when Porcello is out of it?

 

I've said numerous times on here how absolutely stupid it would be to let Porcello go..... But with the way this season is going I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox organization made a move like that.

[notin]

The Red Sox may have the payroll flexibility to trade three and a half seasons of Andrew Benintendi to Seattle for two and a half years of outfielder Domingo Santana (2019 salary $1.95 million) and two and a half years of reliever Hunter Strickland (2019 salary $1.3 million).

 

The Sox would pay a high price in talent for a big bat and a potential closer.

 

That's my wild fantasy-type suggestion.

 

 

Throw in Justus Sheffield and either Shed Long or Jarred Kelenic and I’ll pass the message along to DD myself...

[notin]

I've said numerous times on here how absolutely stupid it would be to let Porcello go..... But with the way this season is going I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox organization made a move like that.

 

 

The Sox can always trade him and then re-sign him after the season. And he won’t even cost them a draft pick ...

[moonslav59]

I suspect the Mariners will set their sights higher than two and a half seasons of a nearly 29-year-old reliever.

 

The Red Sox may have neither the pieces nor financial flexibility to make a competitive offer for Edwin Encarnacion.

 

EE's $20M contract will keep 25 teams from even calling the M's.

 

There is going to be a ton of good players on the trading block this summer.

 

I may certainly be undervaluing his stock, but I'm pretty sure you are overvaluing it.

 

Look at what Jay Bruce got in return.

 

[notin]

EE's $20M contract will keep 25 teams from even calling the M's.

 

There is going to be a ton of good players on the trading block this summer.

 

I may certainly be undervaluing his stock, but I'm pretty sure you are overvaluing it.

 

Look at what Jay Bruce got in return.

 

 

 

And all they gave up for Encarnacion in the first place was the more expensive contract of Carlos Santana..

[moonslav59]

The Red Sox may have the payroll flexibility to trade three and a half seasons of Andrew Benintendi to Seattle for two and a half years of outfielder Domingo Santana (2019 salary $1.95 million) and two and a half years of reliever Hunter Strickland (2019 salary $1.3 million).

 

The Sox would pay a high price in talent for a big bat and a potential closer.

 

That's my wild fantasy-type suggestion.

 

I actually think this might be a starting point offer. Santana K's so damn much, but he has some great numbers over the last 3 years.

 

Santana in 3 yrs:

.274/.354/.480/.834

(650 PA avg: .274 28 91)

 

Beni:

.278/.358/.441/.799

(per 650: .278 18 82)

 

 

Losing a year of control is probably not evened up by adding Stricland, who I don't see as an answer to our closer needs. We're okay with set-up men. We need a closer.

 

How about Beni, Pearce (for salary balance only), DHernandez, Houck & Duran for EE & Santana & a little cash to keep us under the max line?

 

[moonslav59]

And all they gave up for Encarnacion in the first place was the more expensive contract of Carlos Santana..

 

True, but EE is having a monster year.

 

I agree, I don't think Seattle will get much more than my offer for EE, this summer.

 

Only the Asros, among top contenders, really need a 1Bman.

[notin]

True, but EE is having a monster year.

 

I agree, I don't think Seattle will get much more than my offer for EE, this summer.

 

Only the Asros, among top contenders, really need a 1Bman.

 

 

Dodgers? Rockies? Rangers?

 

Or what about other AL teams needing an upgrade at DH?

 

And then there are injuries that might create new voids...