The Pen

[mvp 78]

LOL, I was just teasing about how the shift in power occurred this time last century.

 

Here's one.

[Maxbialystock]

After 2 games, pen looks mightier than rotation (which has been used by Mariners for batting practice).

[notin]

And apparently, the answer is .... Barnes...

[Bellhorn04]

And apparently, the answer is .... Barnes...

 

Wrong thread.

[harmony]

And apparently, the answer is .... Barnes...

Rough night for my fantasy team with Ryan Brasier, Hunter Strickland and Yusei Kikuchi.

[notin]

Wrong thread.

 

 

1. The thread is called “the Pen”.

 

2. The question was omnipresent enough all winter...

[Bellhorn04]

1. The thread is called “the Pen”.

 

2. The question was omnipresent enough all winter...

 

You missed the joke, man. There's another thread here 'Who Will be the 2019 Red Sox Closer'?

[Maxbialystock]

You missed the joke, man. There's another thread here 'Who Will be the 2019 Red Sox Closer'?

 

Meh. You're right of course, but so is Notin because most people think the closer is a vital part of the pen.

 

In any case, this is a great thread because it's all about Topic A this early in the season. With Kimbrel and Kelly gone and no pricey additions, most of us have identified the pen as the potentially fatal weakness in the 2019 Sox roster. Lineup looks fine and probably better than last year's. Rotation ditto. But the pen?????

 

Cora, of course, has gone on record as saying the pen will be fine. So far it looks like our brilliant manager is right once again--even though 2 games are a ridiculously small set of data.

[notin]

You missed the joke, man. There's another thread here 'Who Will be the 2019 Red Sox Closer'?

 

 

To be fair, it’s a topic on 522 threads plus 4,649 blogs and 10,995 articles, not to mention 5,777,553 calls from Craig Kimbrel’s agent ...

[Bellhorn04]

Meh. You're right of course, but so is Notin because most people think the closer is a vital part of the pen.

 

 

Meh. He said the answer is Barnes. Meh. The post obviously fit the other thread perfectly. Meh.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Two years with Barnes as the closer and then Feltman takes over.

[SCM33]

says the guy with Mr. Tingles, Eovaldi and ERod in his rotation. And how was Sale's shoulder by season's end?

 

You are mad the Yankees haven't really been relevant to Boston fans in 10 years. Minus 2009, and its been 15 years.

[mvp 78]

@SoxNotes

 

The 8 relief pitchers on the Red Sox’ 25-man roster have combined to post a 1.86 ERA this season (8 ER/38.2 IP). Matt Barnes, Ryan Brasier, and Brandon Workman have combined to allow 0 runs in 14.1 IP while holding opponents to a .087 AVG (4-for-46) with 17 K, 2 BB, and 1 HBP.

[Slasher9]

but our pen sucks tho!!! jacksonianmarch says so.

[bkzwhitestrican]

but our pen sucks tho!!! jacksonianmarch says so.

 

If you want to use this season's SSS to say that your bullpen is good, then that SSS also says that your rotation is rubbish. It goes both ways. I'm sure you wouldn't agree because it's only been 11 games. But that's the point. It's only been 11 games. Based on the players in your bullpen it's not unreasonable to predict that they'll provide below average production. They've looked solid so far (except for Johnson) but let's see where they stand in another month. Same with the Yanks currently dominant rotation (2.91 total ERA).

[Thunder]

If only our relievers could start and our starters could relieve...

[Slasher9]

If you want to use this season's SSS to say that your bullpen is good, then that SSS also says that your rotation is rubbish. It goes both ways. I'm sure you wouldn't agree because it's only been 11 games. But that's the point. It's only been 11 games. Based on the players in your bullpen it's not unreasonable to predict that they'll provide below average production. They've looked solid so far (except for Johnson) but let's see where they stand in another month. Same with the Yanks currently dominant rotation (2.91 total ERA).

 

fair point.

[kenmeister]

If you want to use this season's SSS to say that your bullpen is good, then that SSS also says that your rotation is rubbish. It goes both ways. I'm sure you wouldn't agree because it's only been 11 games. But that's the point. It's only been 11 games. Based on the players in your bullpen it's not unreasonable to predict that they'll provide below average production. They've looked solid so far (except for Johnson) but let's see where they stand in another month. Same with the Yanks currently dominant rotation (2.91 total ERA).

 

Poor Johnson. He should probably have come out of that game once he felt his elbow hurt.

[Maxbialystock]

If you want to use this season's SSS to say that your bullpen is good, then that SSS also says that your rotation is rubbish. It goes both ways. I'm sure you wouldn't agree because it's only been 11 games. But that's the point. It's only been 11 games. Based on the players in your bullpen it's not unreasonable to predict that they'll provide below average production. They've looked solid so far (except for Johnson) but let's see where they stand in another month. Same with the Yanks currently dominant rotation (2.91 total ERA).

 

Meh. Agree on the small sample size, but it's the only one we have right now. Besides, the bullpen has pitched against the exact same lineups our very expensive rotation has pitched against--and done a whole lot better.

 

Moreover, I honestly think Barnes is throwing better stuff right now than Kimbrel--who just two pitches and sometimes struggled to get the knuckle curve over--had last year.

 

You could still be right that the bullpen will fade somewhat, but that also might be because they are being overworked covering for the starters who keep getting shelled early. We are ver early in the season and Cora has already used Nunez for 1 inning.

[SCM33]

Meh. Agree on the small sample size, but it's the only one we have right now. Besides, the bullpen has pitched against the exact same lineups our very expensive rotation has pitched against--and done a whole lot better.

 

Moreover, I honestly think Barnes is throwing better stuff right now than Kimbrel--who just two pitches and sometimes struggled to get the knuckle curve over--had last year.

 

You could still be right that the bullpen will fade somewhat, but that also might be because they are being overworked covering for the starters who keep getting shelled early. We are ver early in the season and Cora has already used Nunez for 1 inning.

 

His 1 inning has been better than any inning Sale has pitched this year.

[SoxnCycles]

If you want to use this season's SSS to say that your bullpen is good, then that SSS also says that your rotation is rubbish. It goes both ways. I'm sure you wouldn't agree because it's only been 11 games. But that's the point. It's only been 11 games. Based on the players in your bullpen it's not unreasonable to predict that they'll provide below average production. They've looked solid so far (except for Johnson) but let's see where they stand in another month. Same with the Yanks currently dominant rotation (2.91 total ERA).

 

The rotation does suck. I have no problem saying it.

And if the starters don't pitch better, the bullpen is going to start sucking from overuse.

[moonslav59]

The rotation does suck. I have no problem saying it.

 

I'd say, "They have sucked this year," but I would not say the "do suck."

[harmony]

The rotation does suck. I have no problem saying it.

 

I'd say, "They have sucked this year," but I would not say the "do suck."

Today's meaningless stat: Seattle lefthander Marco Gonzales has more wins than the Red Sox this season.

[notin]

The rotation does suck. I have no problem saying it.

 

I'd say, "They have sucked this year," but I would not say the "do suck."

 

I do think they started the season unprepared, which is a big reason why they have sucked.

 

Unless someone has a better theory about how all five starters are in the same massive slump and are all pitching well below their career numbers all at the same time...

[notin]

Today's meaningless stat: Seattle lefthander Marco Gonzales has more wins than the Red Sox this season.

 

Shall we bet it doesn’t last all season?

[Slasher9]

Today's meaningless stat: Seattle lefthander Marco Gonzales has more wins than the Red Sox this season.

 

hahaha harmony. another pro level troll job.

[Slasher9]

I do think they started the season unprepared, which is a big reason why they have sucked.

 

Unless someone has a better theory about how all five starters are in the same massive slump and are all pitching well below their career numbers all at the same time...

 

leongate

[notin]

leongate

 

 

But the bullpen pitchers, who did see plenty of Spring Training action, don’t miss him?

[mvp 78]

But the bullpen pitchers, who did see plenty of Spring Training action, don’t miss him?

 

Small Sample Size

[Slasher9]

But the bullpen pitchers, who did see plenty of Spring Training action, don’t miss him?

 

i dont believe relievers are as weird as starters.

it would be interesting to see what would happen for a turn in the rotation with leon and vaz swapped