2018 World Series: The Dodgers vS The Red Sox

[jung]

This is the WS. Short rest doesn't matter a jot right now.

 

E-Rod is certainly a good option, but let's not pretend Sale can't pitch on 4 days rest in the WS.

 

I'll be happy with either choice.

 

It would be 3 days rest, not 4 and its obvious Sale is already pitching under some duress. Start him in game 5. I don't even want to see Sale pitching in the Fenway cold for game 7.

[Hitch]

It would be 3 days rest, not 4 and its obvious Sale is already pitching under some duress. Start him in game 5. I don't even want to see Sale pitching in the Fenway cold for game 7.

 

I was talking about from today to game 7. He's already been at Cora's office asking to pitch.

 

I'm not arguing whether it's the right thing to do, just that I think Cora could do it.

[Bellhorn04]

It would be 3 days rest, not 4 and its obvious Sale is already pitching under some duress. Start him in game 5. I don't even want to see Sale pitching in the Fenway cold for game 7.

 

Agreed. There's no need to treat Game 4 as a must-win. After Game 4 our pitching is lined up fairly well again.

[jung]

I was talking about from today to game 7. He's already been at Cora's office asking to pitch.

 

I'm not arguing whether it's the right thing to do, just that I think Cora could do it.

 

Today is Saturday. I know its hard to keep track. Didn't the Friday game just end? Its actually Saturday????

 

Pitching Saturday and Wednesday is 3 days rest between starts. Sunday, Monday and Tuesday would be the rest days. Saturday and Wednesday would be the pitch days. Game 7 would be an all hands game anyway. Pitchers likely won't get more than one or two innings no matter who they are.

[Hitch]

Today is Saturday. I know its hard to keep track. Didn't the Friday game just end? Its actually Saturday????

 

Pitching Saturday and Wednesday is 3 days rest between starts. Sunday, Monday and Tuesday would be the rest days. Saturday and Wednesday would be the pitch days. Game 7 would be an all hands game anyway. Pitchers likely won't get more than one or two innings no matter who they are.

 

I am on vacation so I have lost track of my days ha! You are correct.

 

And yet I still think Cora could do it.

[Bellhorn04]

I am on vacation so I have lost track of my days ha! You are correct.

 

And yet I still think Cora could do it.

 

Maybe if Sale has been looking like prime Sale. But he hasn't.

 

Right now our ideal Game 7 pitcher looks like Nathan Eovaldi.

[Hitch]

Maybe if Sale has been looking like prime Sale. But he hasn't.

 

Right now our ideal Game 7 pitcher looks like Nathan Eovaldi.

 

I don't disagree I'm not saying what I would do, only what I think Cora might.

 

E-rod seems the obvious choice, but he's in all-in mode every night. We will see how far he wants to take that.

[Bellhorn04]

I don't disagree I'm not saying what I would do, only what I think Cora might.

 

E-rod seems the obvious choice, but he's in all-in mode every night. We will see how far he wants to take that.

 

I hear what you're saying.

 

I think there's a time to go all-in, and a time to play the long game. Tonight Cora should play the long game.

 

And hopefully the bats show up and win the game for us.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I would not start Sale in game 4. Even if the Red Sox lose game 4, they have the advantage in the series with a rested Sale for game 5, Price for game 6, and Porcello for game 7, with two of the three in Fenway.

 

I think you start E-Rod in game 4, try to get 4 innings out of him.

 

Against Hill:

1b: Pearce

2b: Holt

SS: Bogaerts

3b: Lin (I would DL Nunez)

LF: Martinez

CF: Bradley

RF: Betts

C: Swihart (might as well get a better bat in the lineup and he is more rested than tweedledum and tweedledee)

 

Lineup:

Betts

Holt

Pearce

Martinez

Bogaerts

Swihart

Bradley

Lin

Pitcher

[jung]

Starting Erod makes the most sense in Game 4. That is actually not my biggest concern for Game 4. My biggest concern for Game 4 is that the hitters allowed Beuhler to totally f*** with their heads for no reason. They just screwed up and got porked for it. Think about how many times Mookie looked like a deer in the headlights at the plate last night. However, they are screwed up at this point because they decided to try to guess along with a FB pitcher instead of sitting dead red all night long as the best FB hitting team in baseball.

 

Now, they are stuck with spin master Hill. I see buckets of Bugs Bunny swings coming. So I see every chance that the series ends up tied 2-2 after today. If that happens I hope the Sox recover to take game 5 and head back to Boston up 3-2. However I also very much believe we can win all the games in Fenway if we have to and win a series 4-3.

Edited October 27, 2018 by jung

[dgalehouse]

The Dodgers are a very good team. Did you really expect a cakewalk ? They obviously have done their homework on how to pitch to the Sox hitters. And their pitchers have executed well. Our hitters need to figure it out. You can't always count on getting the two out hit. The home run and the running game have been big all year. Not there lately. I am confident they will respond as they have before.

[dannycater]

If benintendi doesn't start over betts or jd, it's a crime.

[dannycater]

Benintendi has to start or he will turn into a mess rest of series...

[OH FOY]

Since All-Star Break, Hill is 9-1, with a 3.03 ERA. Opponents are hitting .187 against him since break. I'm sure there were a lot of Right Handed Line-ups against him. Edited October 27, 2018 by OH FOY!

[OH FOY]

Tendency with Roberts on Hill is go 6 innings, and hand it over to BP. He's only gone 7 innings this year 4 times. His last 2 Starts he went 7 innings.

[jung]

Since All-Star Break, Hill is 9-1, with a 3.03 ERA. Opponents are hitting .187 against him since break. I'm sure there were a lot of Right Handed Line-ups against him.

 

Sox already struggle with spin merchants. Now they come off a performance where they totally misread how to take on Beuhler, a FB pitcher and screwed themselves up mightily headed right into a game with a spin merchant. Not terribly optimistic about tonight's game.

[OH FOY]

Hill might not start. Roberts might go with Kershaw. Good, Hill is hot.

[jung]

Hill might not start. Roberts might go with Kershaw. Good, Hill is hot.

 

Not sure that makes sense. However, immediately after Cora would only comment that his Game 4 starter would be a LHer, effectively saying nothing, the Dodgers posted up that their Game 4 starter was TBD. I think we are just witnessing some gamesmanship from both sides here.

Edited October 27, 2018 by jung

[moonslav59]

I'm thinking ERod vs Hill.

 

Unlike some, I like our chances.

 

Both teams are tired. Yes, we used 9 pitchers, but two of them (Eovaldi & Porcello) pitched almost 11 innings.

 

Maybe we see this:

 

2-3 IP ERod

1-2 IP Barnes

1-2 IP Kelly

1-2 IP POM/Hembree

1 IP Brasier

1 IP Kimbrel

 

If we're up, I'm not sure we use Sale from the pen.

 

I'm not sure about Price or Porcello giving us a batter or two.

[jacksonianmarch]

You have the luxury to punt this game. You’re guaranteed to go back home. LA needs to win this game.

[Bellhorn04]

I'm thinking ERod vs Hill.

 

Unlike some, I like our chances.

 

Both teams are tired. Yes, we used 9 pitchers, but two of them (Eovaldi & Porcello) pitched almost 11 innings.

 

Maybe we see this:

 

2-3 IP ERod

1-2 IP Barnes

1-2 IP Kelly

1-2 IP POM/Hembree

1 IP Brasier

1 IP Kimbrel

 

If we're up, I'm not sure we use Sale from the pen.

 

I'm not sure about Price or Porcello giving us a batter or two.

 

On the Dodgers side, Jansen threw 32 pitches last night and Baez threw 26, so that's a plus for us.

[Bellhorn04]

You have the luxury to punt this game. You’re guaranteed to go back home. LA needs to win this game.

 

But every game is huge in a playoff series.

[jacksonianmarch]

It is, but you also don’t have to stress out your staff to go “all in” for today’s game.

[jung]

It is, but you also don’t have to stress out your staff to go “all in” for today’s game.

 

Correct...two wrongs don't make a right (unless you are in MLB Administration which uses two wrongs make a right as its guiding principle).

 

Cora already crashed and burned going all out in a game that was tied. I expected to see the approach Cora used in game 3 if he had any sort of lead at all going into the end of the game. I have no idea what Cora was thinking using that approach down 1 run and then tied with a shrinking bench totally dependent on using guys as relief pitchers that had planned starts later in the series.

 

The added wrong at this point would be to treat game 4 the same way...as a do or die. Whether we like it or not Cora treated game 3 like he was all in to win it when he did not have a lead. That started a slow fire burning that turned into a raging inferno as the innings slid by and Eo got burned up. Eo actually saved what remains of the pen so that we at least have some sort of shot at taking a game in LA.

[moonslav59]

You have the luxury to punt this game. You’re guaranteed to go back home. LA needs to win this game.

 

We're not punting anything.

 

We are going out to win this game-- all out.

[moonslav59]

On the Dodgers side, Jansen threw 32 pitches last night and Baez threw 26, so that's a plus for us.

 

True, but Kimbrel threw 28 and Barnes 23. They can both go tonight.

[jung]

True, but Kimbrel threw 28 and Barnes 23. They can both go tonight.

 

OK its as expected, Erod starting. If we can stretch Erod out to 5 (that is a stretch for ERod under this pressure) we can get through this game with a shot to win it.

[FredLynn]

OK its as expected, Erod starting. If we can stretch Erod out to 5 (that is a stretch for ERod under this pressure) we can get through this game with a shot to win it.

 

I am not afraid of Rich Hill, a junk ball thrower. Score first (and I think we will) and this game is ours. Still saying Sox in five. Even if we end up going back to Boston down 3-2 I still think we win the series.

[jung]

I am not afraid of Rich Hill, a junk ball thrower. Score first (and I think we will) and this game is ours. Still saying Sox in five. Even if we end up going back to Boston down 3-2 I still think we win the series.

 

I agree with us taking this series even if it means wining the final two games back here. We are terrible hitters against junkers, especially junkers that know what they are doing. We are the best FB hitters in baseball. Junkers tend to beat us up. I will be surprised if we have our way with Hill though I will certainly take it in a nanosecond.

 

Also, Cora IMO did not cost us the series in game 3. You can't possibly lose a 7 game series in game 3. He simply insured this thing goes back to Boston IMO and I am OK with that.

Edited October 27, 2018 by jung

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

Very glad to hear that ERod is the starter tonight, as pointed out after this our pitching is lined up just fine. They have to play Pearce over Moreland who has given them nothing, Hell he hasn't given them much since June.