Dave Dombrowski

[Slasher9]

I posted a couple of days ago about James Shields. I have been following James Shields’ season. He is with a pathetic team that is horrible defensively and they play in a bandbox. He has put up a high number of quality starts, but the really notable thing about his season thus far is that he has avoided what has been his downfall throughout his career — the Home Run ball. I would think that he should be an inexpensive acquisition. If Pom and Wright continue to falter Shields would be a good alternative.

 

i remember hearing something about shields in post #483 here:

https://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/18724-Who-Should-the-Red-Sox-Trade-For/page17

[Spudboy]

Yes, I have heard that.

 

He also said that none of our players would require surgery after last season.

 

As I said, I wasn't buying it before. With the need for a starting pitcher, I think it just might happen now. Personally, I wouldn't do it. Doing so still wouldn't guarantee a ring, and it would further harm our long term outlook.

 

So stand pat with three healthy starting pitchers and roll out a bunch of lesser talents and loose more games?

 

If this team is built to win this season they should fortify the roster when necessitated by significant injury.

 

To do less is to do less. Not better.

Edited July 17, 2018 by Spudboy

[a700hitter]

i remember hearing something about shields in post #483 here:

https://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/18724-Who-Should-the-Red-Sox-Trade-For/page17

LOL! We have alerted DD. He should lock the tires on Shields. At the prorated portion of a $5 million salary, it is very doable.

[mvp 78]

Jake Peavy is still a FA and looking for work!

[dgalehouse]

Dombrowski should have listened to you and signed a couple of those dumpster dives for depth back in the offseason.

 

The way to achieving the best record in baseball is with quality players. That is what Dombrowski has done. And if we need another starter , that is what he will look to do. Dumpster diving is not the way to go. Mostly just garbage and broken down trash in that dumpster. As for ERod , he is starting to look like another one of those guys who just can't stay healthy.

[Bellhorn04]

The way to achieving the best record in baseball is with quality players. That is what Dombrowski has done. And if we need another starter , that is what he will look to do. Dumpster diving is not the way to go. Mostly just garbage and broken down trash in that dumpster. As for ERod , he is starting to look like another one of those guys who just can't stay healthy.

 

That's not really fair to E-Rod in this case. His ankle got twisted pretty badly. Could have happened to anyone.

[Spudboy]

That's not really fair to E-Rod in this case. His ankle got twisted pretty badly. Could have happened to anyone.

 

True.

 

He may be the Sox Leon Spinks.

 

Bad luck just freakin' with him.

[Slasher9]

That's not really fair to E-Rod in this case. His ankle got twisted pretty badly. Could have happened to anyone.

 

he has a case of the Ellsburys....

[a700hitter]

he has a case of the Ellsburys....

This is one of the reasons to avoid picking up Adrian Beltre.

[mvp 78]

How many people has he injured in TEX?

[Kimmi]

So stand pat with three healthy starting pitchers and roll out a bunch of lesser talents and loose more games?

 

If this team is built to win this season they should fortify the roster when necessitated by significant injury.

 

Do do less is to do less. Not better.

 

I didn't say that the team should stand pat. Dombrowski will need to get creative in finding upgrades that won't push us over the limit. I don't know what the answer is.

 

All I'm saying is that I would not go over the luxury tax limit, especially for a marginal upgrade. The team is 99.9% going to make the playoffs even if they stand pat. Going all in to add another starter guarantees nothing in the postseason.

[Kimmi]

Jake Peavy is still a FA and looking for work!

 

Go get him Dave!

[cp176]

The way to achieving the best record in baseball is with quality players. That is what Dombrowski has done. And if we need another starter , that is what he will look to do. Dumpster diving is not the way to go. Mostly just garbage and broken down trash in that dumpster. As for ERod , he is starting to look like another one of those guys who just can't stay healthy.

 

E- Rod and his injury history scares me. it was good to see him actually throwing well but I guess I do question his overall fitness level and toughness. I'm putting him close to the same category as Wright at this point in time. Maybe he is just unlucky or maybe he isn't really in very good shape for a big young guy. what ever I'm not counting on him for much from here on out based on how long it seems to take him to heal. I still think that we are ok though.

[notin]

Dombrowski should have listened to you and signed a couple of those dumpster dives for depth back in the offseason.

 

 

Is there a really good “self-righteous smug face” emoji out there?

[notin]

The way to achieving the best record in baseball is with quality players. That is what Dombrowski has done. And if we need another starter , that is what he will look to do. Dumpster diving is not the way to go. Mostly just garbage and broken down trash in that dumpster. As for ERod , he is starting to look like another one of those guys who just can't stay healthy.

 

Right.

 

Dombrowski should just fill out the forms and in the box next to “Quality Starting Pitcher”, just fill in a “1”. Or, if he’s feeling desperate, a “2”.

 

The problem with your sentiment is that the Sox don’t have the chips to trade for a good starting pitcher, and haven’t had them for a long time. Getting what you want for the rotation is nearly impossible. So if they can’t get a guarantee, you suggest they stand pat?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Jake Peavy is still a FA and looking for work!

 

There's a lot of openings recently in the picking fruit job market.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The one time E-rod did hustle to cover 1st and look what happened. Better if he had just stayed on the mound.

[notin]

I posted a couple of days ago about James Shields. I have been following James Shields’ season. He is with a pathetic team that is horrible defensively and they play in a bandbox. He has put up a high number of quality starts, but the really notable thing about his season thus far is that he has avoided what has been his downfall throughout his career — the Home Run ball. I would think that he should be an inexpensive acquisition. If Pom and Wright continue to falter Shields would be a good alternative.

 

Right now the Sox need warm bodies after Sale, Price and Pocello.

 

Shields is looking better everyday Unless people have a lot of faith in Johnson and Beeks for the second half. (And what do we do if one of them gets hurt?)

[a700hitter]

Right now the Sox need warm bodies after Sale, Price and Pocello.

 

Shields is looking better everyday Unless people have a lot of faith in Johnson and Beeks for the second half. (And what do we do if one of them gets hurt?)

A prorated portion of his $5 million salary would seem to fit the budget.

[Bellhorn04]

All I'm saying is that I would not go over the luxury tax limit, especially for a marginal upgrade. The team is 99.9% going to make the playoffs even if they stand pat. Going all in to add another starter guarantees nothing in the postseason.

 

But if you subscribe to the belief that the Wild Card games are not playoffs but 'play-ins', it's a whole different story.

 

Our % for winning the division right now is only about 65%.

 

Having to play a Wild Card Game, a coin flip, cuts your chances in half.

[notin]

A prorated portion of his $5 million salary would seem to fit the budget.

 

And the White Sox won’t ask for a ton of prospects the Red Sox don’t have.

 

Trey Ball might be an overpay here...

[oldtimer]

Realistically, DD will go for a SP, RP or two, 2nd baseman, catching prospect but the emphasis will be on pitching. To the extent he can bolster the pitching, he might have to give away future pitching prospects and more. He will need to act and I would guess the options are already lined up. We will be outbid on some of them so maybe we don't get the ideal arrangement but it is competitive out there and if DD can strengthen this years team, fire away.

[Kimmi]

Is there a really good “self-righteous smug face” emoji out there?

 

Nope, but you have my permission to give a good old "I told you so!!!"

[Kimmi]

But if you subscribe to the belief that the Wild Card games are not playoffs but 'play-ins', it's a whole different story.

 

Our % for winning the division right now is only about 65%.

 

Having to play a Wild Card Game, a coin flip, cuts your chances in half.

 

I understand that. But either way, nothing is guaranteed, which is the the issue I have with the whole "win now at any cost" philosophy. If we were able to miraculously get deGrom, Britton, and Scooter, we're still not even guaranteed to win the division, much less the WS.

 

I don't think it would be worth the further sacrifice to our future for what would likely be a marginal upgrade to this year's team.

[Kimmi]

Realistically, DD will go for a SP, RP or two, 2nd baseman, catching prospect but the emphasis will be on pitching. To the extent he can bolster the pitching, he might have to give away future pitching prospects and more. He will need to act and I would guess the options are already lined up. We will be outbid on some of them so maybe we don't get the ideal arrangement but it is competitive out there and if DD can strengthen this years team, fire away.

 

I have no doubt that Dombrowski will do something to upgrade our team before the deadline. Exactly what he will do is anybody's guess. But, I bet we will all be pleasantly surprised with the acquisition(s).

 

After thinking about this a little more, I'd be okay if Dombrowski just added a reliever or two. I think our team is good enough to go with what we have. That is, provided we don't sustain any more injuries.

[SoxnCycles]

I have no doubt that Dombrowski will do something to upgrade our team before the deadline. Exactly what he will do is anybody's guess. But, I bet we will all be pleasantly surprised with the acquisition(s).

 

After thinking about this a little more, I'd be okay if Dombrowski just added a reliever or two. I think our team is good enough to go with what we have. That is, provided we don't sustain any more injuries.

 

Depends on how E-Rod and the Pomeranian look going forward.

If neither of them are reliable by Sept, relying on Sale, Porcello and Mr Tingles is a scary proposition.

[Kimmi]

Depends on how E-Rod and the Pomeranian look going forward.

If neither of them are reliable by Sept, relying on Sale, Porcello and Mr Tingles is a scary proposition.

 

That could be, but I can't see a game changer type starter coming through the door. I don't see the Sox acquiring any starter that would be good enough to supplant Sale, Porcello, or Price as the top 3. It seems like if we do get a starter, it will be James Shields type, although they don't call him Big Game James for nothing. LOL

[notin]

That could be, but I can't see a game changer type starter coming through the door. I don't see the Sox acquiring any starter that would be good enough to supplant Sale, Porcello, or Price as the top 3. It seems like if we do get a starter, it will be James Shields type, although they don't call him Big Game James for nothing. LOL

 

Actually, as far as I can tell, they do...

[Kimmi]

Actually, as far as I can tell, they do...

 

LOL Right, as usual.

[Jack Flap]

Maybe he plays a big game on the golf course...who knows?