replay

[cp176]

Count me in as not a fan of instant replay as it is currently used. I realize that there has been importance placed on "getting it right" but I think that it is being overdone. I get it being used on the obvious but on the quick hitting bang bang plays, I like the concept of the human umpire element being used. Still a great game but I liked it better without the replay interruptions. Not to mention the fact that I always liked those pleasant little interactions between umpires and managers.

[Bellhorn04]

I would call it a necessary evil. It's a pain, but when you look at the number of calls by supposedly the best umps in the business that get overturned, it makes you realize how hard it is to get those calls right.

[cp176]

I would call it a necessary evil. It's a pain, but when you look at the number of calls by supposedly the best umps in the business that get overturned, it makes you realize how hard it is to get those calls right.

 

I agree and I don't think that we are going back anytime soon but I think that by using reply to the extent that it is being used is taking something out of the game that I know I have always enjoyed.

[jad]

'Necessary'? For what? There were blown calls before replay and baseball was fine. So was football and basketball. The only sport where replay has worked is tennis, where it doesn't slow up the action and it prevents a lot of b.s. arguments. I hate it. ANd I hate particularly the way it is used to micromanage plays: e.g., the worst case, when a player slides into a base and as he bumps over it, momentarily loses contact while still over the base. As Bob Costas noted, that play has been called safe for over a 100 years, and it's absurd to change it now. As for 'getting it right', who cares? The plays it is used to 'investigate' are bang/bang plays--essentially, coin flips. No one draws up a bunt to beat it out by a nano-second; no WR draws up his catch to tap both feet 1 mm inside the sideline. If you're trying to determine who the better team is, or who plays better that day, those calls are purely matters of chance, and all replay does is delay things. Alas, now that betting is becoming legal everywhere, I expect we'll just get more of it.

[jad]

What is even more ridiculous is that sports do NOT use electronic aids where it would actually help and cause no delay: e.g., electronic calling of balls and strikes. Or spotting of the ball in football (where the linesman more or less eyeballs the spot, and then we have the elaborate ritual of bringing out the chains for a measurement).

[dgalehouse]

I don't like having the manager tell the ump to hold on for a minute while we check the replay to see if we decide to challenge. If you want to challenge , do it immediately or keep the game moving.

[S5Dewey]

What's happening is what I feared would happen when the replays started. In our desire to get everything "perfect" and "fair" we've taken away from the game.

 

I'm "on the fence" about replay. On the one hand I like it when I know that no team got an edge because of an umpire's blown call. OTOH I dislike the fact that technology is taking over sports.

 

In the bigger picture I have to wonder if we're putting too much emphasis on sports, especially at the professional level. Sports should not be life or death for any fan at any level. The sun is going to come up tomorrow regardless of who wins a game and yet I have friends who say they can't sleep after a Red Sox (or Patriots) loss.

 

Most of my experience is in having played and at the high school level but it's been my observation that players can walk off the field after a tough loss or a bad call and put it behind them while parents and fans can carry a negative memory for years after a loss.

 

It's a game. It's ok to be elated when you win or disappointed when you lose so is it really all that important that an umpire get every single call right?

[Slasher9]

betting / vegas / bookies make it necessary.

as for me? Robot Umps Now!

[Bellhorn04]

I don't like having the manager tell the ump to hold on for a minute while we check the replay to see if we decide to challenge. If you want to challenge , do it immediately or keep the game moving.

 

Although this might actually save a bit of time by saving some challenges on plays that would clearly lose.

[S5Dewey]

betting / vegas / bookies make it necessary.

 

And that may be a part of the problem.

[Bellhorn04]

It's a game. It's ok to be elated when you win or disappointed when you lose so is it really all that important that an umpire get every single call right?

 

Let's be honest, the outcomes of these games are very important to us.

[Slasher9]

And that may be a part of the problem.

 

agreed. and it's only going to get worse now that sports gambling is being legalized across many states.

[illinoisredsox]

What's happening is what I feared would happen when the replays started. In our desire to get everything "perfect" and "fair" we've taken away from the game.

 

I'm "on the fence" about replay. On the one hand I like it when I know that no team got an edge because of an umpire's blown call. OTOH I dislike the fact that technology is taking over sports.

 

In the bigger picture I have to wonder if we're putting too much emphasis on sports, especially at the professional level. Sports should not be life or death for any fan at any level. The sun is going to come up tomorrow regardless of who wins a game and yet I have friends who say they can't sleep after a Red Sox (or Patriots) loss.

 

Most of my experience is in having played and at the high school level but it's been my observation that players can walk off the field after a tough loss or a bad call and put it behind them while parents an fans can carry a negative memory for years after a loss.

It's a game. It's ok to be elated when you win or disappointed when you lose so is it really all that important that an umpire get every single call right?

 

Aw c’mon, I’m over the Larry Barnett call.

 

Okay, not really.

[mvp 78]

Replay stinks and it slows the game down. Robot ump for k zone and 4 umps for everything else.

[Bellhorn04]

Replay stinks and it slows the game down. Robot ump for k zone and 4 umps for everything else.

 

You want a robot for balls and strikes but you're OK with other blown calls?

[mvp 78]

You want a robot for balls and strikes but you're OK with other blown calls?

 

Yup. I think things like the neighborhood play should be legal. Robot ump doesn’t slow up the game the way replay does.

[S5Dewey]

Aw c’mon, I’m over the Larry Barnett call.

 

Okay, not really.

 

Ok. Yeah. Me too. But isn't everyone entitled to a mulligan or two when it comes to their opinions?

[Bellhorn04]

Yup. I think things like the neighborhood play should be legal. Robot ump doesn’t slow up the game the way replay does.

 

You can be sure there would be some technical glitches with robot umps too. If something can get f'd up, it will.

[jad]

Notify Youk. Something must be wrong with the board, as I agree entirely with everything said here.

[mvp 78]

You can be sure there would be some technical glitches with robot umps too. If something can get f'd up, it will.

 

That’s why they test it out in A ball.

[Kimmi]

Just say NO to instant replay and to robot umps.

[jad]

Just say NO to instant replay and to robot umps.

 

Aren't those two separate issues? (unless, say, one rejects them on the basis of keeping the human element in the game).

I don't care about the human element. All I want is for the game to proceed; I want to know the call immediately; and I want to get rid of arguing with officials, which is one of the most boring and annoying elements of sports (even though, of course, arguing pointlessly is pretty much what we do here all the time). Robot balls/strikes would do all three of those. Replay helps on one (idiotic arguing) at the expense of the other two. (We have to wait a minute or two to know whether we celebrate or despair). So I want all the robotic calls possible, and I want none of them to have the option of being challenged.

[Bellhorn04]

Ah, no matter what they do or don't do, there will always be plenty of fans beetching about something. It's one of the favorite pastimes of baseball fans, before, during and after games.

[mvp 78]

Just say NO to instant replay and yes to robot umps.

 

ftfy

[Jasonbay44]

If they are going to allow morons like CB Bucknor and Angel Hernandez to umpire major league games, we need instant replay.

[dgalehouse]

How about a robot manager ? They have chess computers that can beat the best grandmasters. Surely they can program a robot to manage better than what we see in MLB. And they wouldn't get upset if you second guessed their decisions.

[mvp 78]

How about a robot manager ? They have chess computers that can beat the best grandmasters. Surely they can program a robot to manage better than what we see in MLB. And they wouldn't get upset if you second guessed their decisions.

 

The most important part about managing is leading the team not setting lineups. Not sure a robot could do that.

[Bellhorn04]

How about a robot manager ? They have chess computers that can beat the best grandmasters. Surely they can program a robot to manage better than what we see in MLB. And they wouldn't get upset if you second guessed their decisions.

 

And then robot players. The initial capital outlay might be a little steep, but once they're built you just have to maintain them.

 

They wouldn't miss games with things like strained obliques. Best of all, no rest days necessary.

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

I'm a big fan of replay in every sport. They don't always get it right but they are pretty close. I'm willing to wait 2 minutes for that because getting it right is very important. Baseball replay is much faster than the NFL, who for some reason still can't seem to get a resolution in a timely manner.

 

Is it me or does it seem like 80% of the plays that have been reviewed this year have gone against the Sox? I can't remember one that ended up wrong though.

[S5Dewey]

I'm a big fan of replay in every sport. They don't always get it right but they are pretty close. I'm willing to wait 2 minutes for that because getting it right is very important. Baseball replay is much faster than the NFL, who for some reason still can't seem to get a resolution in a timely manner.

 

Is it me or does it seem like 80% of the plays that have been reviewed this year have gone against the Sox? I can't remember one that ended up wrong though.

 

Speaking of the NFL replays, if MLB is going to continue with replays in baseball they've GOT to mic the crew chief so he can explain what they saw and why the call was made.