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[Bellhorn04]

Speaking of the NFL replays, if MLB is going to continue with replays in baseball they've GOT to mic the crew chief so he can explain what they saw and why the call was made.

 

Not sure I understand. What explanation do you need on a safe/out call?

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

Speaking of the NFL replays, if MLB is going to continue with replays in baseball they've GOT to mic the crew chief so he can explain what they saw and why the call was made.

 

Meh, they don't do it in hockey. Most of the time it's pretty clear: safe or out, fair or foul etc. In football it's pretty much "after review the ruling on the field is confirmed" or whatever with little explanation.

[SoxnCycles]

If they are going to allow morons like CB Bucknor and Angel Hernandez to umpire major league games, we need instant replay.

 

Tough to argue with that.

How they have survived for so long is beyond me.

[S5Dewey]

Not sure I understand. What explanation do you need on a safe/out call?

 

The thing I'd like to see is whether there was conclusive evidence that the wrong call was made or if there wasn't enough evidence to overturn it.

 

I'm aware that in the long run it doesn't matter - the call is either going to be safe our out and we have to live with it, However, I've had times when I didn't agree with the replay decision (and neither did OB/Jerry) so I'd like to hear the umps rationale.

 

I especially like it when the referee will say "There was no fumble on the play as the runner's right knee touched the ground prior to the ball's coming loose and therefore the runner was down by contact."

In baseball it could be "While the runner reached the base safely he lost contact with the base while the fielder's glove was on the runner. Therefore the runner is out."

 

Or even..."After review we have found insufficient evidence to overturn the original call therefore the runner is safe/out".

 

As things currently are we're sometimes left wondering what the Hell they saw there to make that call!

[Slasher9]

we need Robot Medical Staff Now!

[jacksonianmarch]

I love replay. I want the calls to be right. The 30 second rule is far better

[dgalehouse]

And then robot players. The initial capital outlay might be a little steep, but once they're built you just have to maintain them.

 

They wouldn't miss games with things like strained obliques. Best of all, no rest days necessary.

You might have to reboot them once in a while , but the trainer / tech could probably do that between innings .

[dgalehouse]

The most important part about managing is leading the team not setting lineups. Not sure a robot could do that.

 

They would have different types of robots. There would be your basic player's robot. Then there would be your more old school disciplinarian type robot. The GM could select which model he wants , probably from Amazon.

[SoxnCycles]

They would have different types of robots. There would be your basic player's robot. Then there would be your more old school disciplinarian type robot. The GM could select which model he wants , probably from Amazon.

 

You've put a lot of thought into this!

[Bellhorn04]

They would have different types of robots. There would be your basic player's robot. Then there would be your more old school disciplinarian type robot. The GM could select which model he wants , probably from Amazon.

 

There would be a stat geek manager robot now too.

[Slasher9]

TalkSox Poster Robots Now!

[Maxbialystock]

Given me a living, breathing ump over replays any time. Baseball is a game, not a scientific experiment, and it's played by humans. I agree umps miss calls, but am fine with that. Let the managers go back to throwing tantrums now and then. Ditto players.

[cp176]

Given me a living, breathing ump over replays any time. Baseball is a game, not a scientific experiment, and it's played by humans. I agree umps miss calls, but am fine with that. Let the managers go back to throwing tantrums now and then. Ditto players.

 

I'm with you Max on this one. My world is imperfect and I don't need to see perfection on the diamond to make life better. A beautiful game becoming less beautiful as far as I'm concerned.

[a700hitter]

I'm with you Max on this one. My world is imperfect and I don't need to see perfection on the diamond to make life better. A beautiful game becoming less beautiful as far as I'm concerned.

The umps are almost always right on the plays on the bases. I am not a fan of the coming off the bases baloney on a slide. The weakness of the umpires that has the biggest impact on the game is balls and strikes and those are not subject to replay, so who needs replay.

[dgalehouse]

TalkSox Poster Robots Now!

 

We may have that already. Check the game threads.

[cp176]

The umps are almost always right on the plays on the bases. I am not a fan of the coming off the bases baloney on a slide. The weakness of the umpires that has the biggest impact on the game is balls and strikes and those are not subject to replay, so who needs replay.

 

Correct!

[Kimmi]

Aren't those two separate issues? (unless, say, one rejects them on the basis of keeping the human element in the game).

I don't care about the human element. All I want is for the game to proceed; I want to know the call immediately; and I want to get rid of arguing with officials, which is one of the most boring and annoying elements of sports (even though, of course, arguing pointlessly is pretty much what we do here all the time). Robot balls/strikes would do all three of those. Replay helps on one (idiotic arguing) at the expense of the other two. (We have to wait a minute or two to know whether we celebrate or despair). So I want all the robotic calls possible, and I want none of them to have the option of being challenged.

 

I see your point about why you would want robot umps but not replay. I can understand why people would be in favor of instant replay as well.

 

I'm just innately opposed to both. It's just not the way baseball was meant to be played.

[Kimmi]

Tough to argue with that.

How they have survived for so long is beyond me.

 

The problem is not with having human umpires.

 

The problem is that they are not held accountable for the correctness or incorrectness of their calls.

[a700hitter]

The problem is not with having human umpires.

 

The problem is that they are not held accountable for the correctness or incorrectness of their calls.

Accountability?

[notin]

The problem is not with having human umpires.

 

The problem is that they are not held accountable for the correctness or incorrectness of their calls.

 

They do get reviews from the league office.

 

But also bear in mind, a lot of what we think are the rules are solely umpire calls. For example, ask any amateur coach about what happens when a player making a taf drops the ball and he will tell you the runner is safe. That's not the rule. The rule is it becomes the umpires call if the runner is out or not. (Many umpires do use the guideline that the runner is safe when the ball is dropped during a tag, but the rule is that is it their call.)

[Kimmi]

They do get reviews from the league office.

 

But also bear in mind, a lot of what we think are the rules are solely umpire calls. For example, ask any amateur coach about what happens when a player making a taf drops the ball and he will tell you the runner is safe. That's not the rule. The rule is it becomes the umpires call if the runner is out or not. (Many umpires do use the guideline that the runner is safe when the ball is dropped during a tag, but the rule is that is it their call.)

 

I'm sure they do get reviews, but I don't think they're held to a very high standard. My understanding is that it's very difficult to fire a big league umpire, no matter how bad he is. Therein lies the problem.

 

I realize that there are some calls that are judgment calls on the part of the umpire. Something like the strike zone, however, should not be at the discretion of the umpire.