Hanley DFA’d

[Kimmi]

I'm going to miss him. An erratic but very exciting player, who, like his namesake Manny, made hitting look like the most natural thing in the world.

 

!!!

[a700hitter]

Hanley Ramirez is on pace to meet the conditions. If he signs with another team in a week he could still meet the conditions.

 

In November 2014 Ramirez agreed to play four seasons for the Red Sox (or their assignee). The designation for assignment may or may not prevent Ramirez from meeting that condition. Still, the Red Sox are on the hook for the balance of his 2019 salary of $22 million (less the prorated league minimum if he signs elsewhere). That Red Sox obligation did not disappear.

 

My point is that Ramirez should be entitled to the bargained-for benefit of the vesting option if he reaches 1,050 plate appearances in 2017-18 and passes a physical. My question is what team should be responsible for the vested option.

It depends on the specific conditions for the option. We don't know all the contractual conditions.

[Kimmi]

Hanley staying classy by thanking redsox nation. Dude did everything Red Sox management asked of him without complaining once. He is truly someone kids should look up to and model themselves after.

Best of luck to Hanley wherever he ends up next in life.

 

Amen, brother Slasher.

[CharlieWhigg]

Shocked to see Hanley optioned. At least we're off the hook for the $22 million option

https://redsoxunfiltered.com/2018/05/25/why-the-boston-red-sox-moved-on-from-hanley-ramirez/

[Kimmi]

Let me go on record as saying that I'm not a fan of the move.

 

Let me also go on record as saying that there was an awful lot of BS being flung by Dombrowski in his press conference today.

 

Just when I was starting to like the dude a little more....

[FredLynn]

If, as Evan Drellich reports, the "Union steadfastly protects value of contracts," how can the vesting option, a negotiated benefit of value, simply disappear?

 

I suspect we haven't heard the last of this issue.

 

 

 

I suspect we have. Hanley isn't going to get 497 PAs with the Sox this season. End of discussion.

[mvp 78]

He will be quickly picked up by another team.

 

Why tho? He’s just not very good anymore. If he doesn’t hit the rest of the season, he’ll be on the Jose Bautista track next year.

[mvp 78]

Let me go on record as saying that I'm not a fan of the move.

 

Let me also go on record as saying that there was an awful lot of BS being flung by Dombrowski in his press conference today.

 

Just when I was starting to like the dude a little more....

You'd rather a replacement level player vest his $20M option for next year?

[FredLynn]

I'm still surprised the team jumped to this drastic of a solution so early in the season, and it wouldn't surprise me if Hanley was still capable of getting hot and going on a 2016-like run at some point, but I'm fine with the move. Definitely the best thing for the team long-term, and quite possibly in the short term as well. Hopefully Moreland can continue to produce and Swihart starts getting some more opportunities and makes the most of them. Not having to worry about the option and any related drama come August or September is a relief.

 

They had to get rid of someone, and in terms of value, Ramirez was the logical choice. Sure Swihart isn't hitting as well as Hanley, but he is being paid a fraction of Hanley's salary. So someone had to go...thats why I called this move during last night's game thread, page 5. It was too logical not to see. Moreland isn't going to keep up the pace he is hitting at now, but he is MUCH better defensively, and won't sink to Bradley-esk numbers either. Furthermore, now Swihart will get a chance to show what he has more often, if anything.

[Kimmi]

Why tho? He’s just not very good anymore. If he doesn’t hit the rest of the season, he’ll be on the Jose Bautista track next year.

 

Because they can sign him for cheap, and he still has the potential to be a very good hitter.

 

Believe me, he will not be unemployed for long. Someone will take a chance on him.

[Kimmi]

You'd rather a replacement level player vest his $20M option for next year?

 

No, I'd rather the FO didn't act so rashly. They had other options which could have kept Hanley on the roster for at least a little bit longer. In the meantime, Cora could have given Moreland more playing time if that's the way he felt.

[mvp 78]

Because they can sign him for cheap, and he still has the potential to be a very good hitter.

 

Believe me, he will not be unemployed for long. Someone will take a chance on him.

 

I believe he will, but it just seems like a waste of a spot to me.

[mvp 78]

No, I'd rather the FO didn't act so rashly. They had other options which could have kept Hanley on the roster for at least a little bit longer. In the meantime, Cora could have given Moreland more playing time if that's the way he felt.

 

I’m sure they’ve been contemplating this move for a long time.

[FredLynn]

No, I'd rather the FO didn't act so rashly. They had other options which could have kept Hanley on the roster for at least a little bit longer. In the meantime, Cora could have given Moreland more playing time if that's the way he felt.

 

Cora suggested the move to DD because, in part, he didn't think Hanley would take well to sitting on the bench.

[Bellhorn04]

No, I'd rather the FO didn't act so rashly. They had other options which could have kept Hanley on the roster for at least a little bit longer. In the meantime, Cora could have given Moreland more playing time if that's the way he felt.

 

Hanley really has been an awful tease throughout his time here though. When his 2018 OPS dipped below his already-bad 2017 OPS, that kind of did it for me.

[Kimmi]

I’m sure they’ve been contemplating this move for a long time.

 

Not according to Dombrowski.

[Kimmi]

Cora suggested the move to DD because, in part, he didn't think Hanley would take well to sitting on the bench.

 

Well, he might not have if he were going to become a permanent bench guy. But I think Cora could have given Moreland some more playing time, along with giving Hanley enough playing time to keep him happy and to see if he could get it going.

 

This whole thing just doesn't sit well with me.

[Kimmi]

Hanley really has been an awful tease throughout his time here though. When his 2018 OPS dipped below his already-bad 2017 OPS, that kind of did it for me.

 

He has been in a terrible rut, I won't deny that. Very frustrating to watch.

[Kimmi]

And Dombrowski also said this move has nothing to do with Hanley's option.

 

Seriously Dave, just shut up.

[mvp 78]

Not according to Dombrowski.

 

But you don’t believe what he says anyway?

[Bellhorn04]

He has been in a terrible rut, I won't deny that. Very frustrating to watch.

 

Especially since we attributed his lousy 2015 and 2017 numbers to injury, and he was supposedly injury-free this season.

[Kimmi]

But you don’t believe what he says anyway?

 

No, I don't. I'll give you that.

[mvp 78]

And Dombrowski also said this move has nothing to do with Hanley's option.

 

Seriously Dave, just shut up.

 

He has to say that for legal reasons tho.

[a700hitter]

And Dombrowski also said this move has nothing to do with Hanley's option.

 

Seriously Dave, just shut up.

You are right. He should have said that he has been looking forward to the day when he could unburden himself from the budget choking contracts done by Benny the Boob.

[harmony]

It depends on the specific conditions for the option. We don't know all the contractual conditions.

Precisely.

[Natick to NC]

No, I don't. I'll give you that.

 

Are you seriously butt hurt over Hanley ??? f*** him he's been a huge dissapointment.

[jung]

One thing I should say about Hanley or at least my opinion of Hanley, while I took a swipe at Hanley in an earlier post commenting about his tendency to get mad about something or another, get really focused and make the opposing team pay for whatever it was that had him irked.

 

I really thought his ability to focus and pull it together, something he has shown throughout his career would mean that he would pull it together this year to earn the vesting. Maybe he is just enough past it for a career that he just could not muster that up. Anyway, I did not think he was far enough past it not to muster up a serious year for him. Not really sure why this is working out this way for Hanley.

[Kimmi]

He has to say that for legal reasons tho.

 

As I said, there is a lot of BS being flung today.

 

Dombrowski and Cora took a big time hit on my like-ability chart.

 

And yes, they're both going to lose sleep over that.

[Spudboy]

He will be quickly picked up by another team.

 

Once he is released.

 

I can see a bunch of teams who need some thump taking a flier on him at $377.K

[moonslav59]

I, for one, am happy the Pablohram era is finally over.

 

What a collosal waste of money.