run support for Sale

[Emp9]

Acronyms are out of hand.

 

When I first saw FTFY I didn't think it meant Fixed That For You. I thought it meant f*** That f*** You.

 

Hahaha! I’m dying over here.

[dustcover]

Welcome to the internet baby boomers. Now f*** right off.

 

As a septuagenarian, I'm a bit removed from those in the baby boomer category, but your enlightened view is duly noted.

[Slasher9]

it will be interesting to see if Sale gets frustrated if he continues to receive minimal run support and continues to receive no-decisions. he is still yet to get paid so although wins dont mean much to us astute TS forum members something tells me his agent would like him to get a heap of them.....

[Thunder]

As a septuagenarian, I'm a bit removed from those in the baby boomer category, but your enlightened view is duly noted.

 

You must be an old setpuagenerian. My dad's almost 73, and he's a baby boomer

[Emp9]

In case anyone was wondering

 

septuagenarian

 

Meaning:

 

1. Type of endangered, amphibious canine common around 1200 AD.

 

2. Obscure Free Mason Chapter. Also common around 1200 AD

[cp176]

it will be interesting to see if Sale gets frustrated if he continues to receive minimal run support and continues to receive no-decisions. he is still yet to get paid so although wins dont mean much to us astute TS forum members something tells me his agent would like him to get a heap of them.....

 

I got to repeat - Everything we have seen from him so far is that he just wants to win. If he keeps pitching like he has for basically his whole career, he will get his payday. I hope that it is with Boston.

[moonslav59]

I hope this guy finishes his career with the Sox...

 

Chris Freakin' Sale

[dustcover]

You must be an old setpuagenerian. My dad's almost 73, and he's a baby boomer

 

Yes indeed your dad is a qualified septuagenarian, and a legitimate 'baby boomer' if born in 1946. If born in 1945, he would be included in a distinctively different category.

 

Almost exactly nine months after World War II ended, “the cry of the baby was heard across the land,” as historian Landon Jones later described the trend. More babies were born in 1946 than ever before: 3.4 million, 20 percent more than in 1945. This was the beginning of the so-called “baby boom.” In 1947, another 3.8 million babies were born; 3.9 million were born in 1952; and more than 4 million were born every year from 1954 until 1964, when the boom finally tapered off. By then, there were 76.4 million “baby boomers” in the United States. They made up almost 40 percent of the nation’s population.

 

Having been born in 1941, I'm a proud member of the Silent Generation that was made up of about 50 million children born between 1925 and 1945. Children from this group were plagued with war and economic instability as a result of the Great Depression.

 

So if your dad was born in 1945, he too would be categorized as a member of the Silent Generation.

[dustcover]

In case anyone was wondering

 

septuagenarian

 

Meaning:

 

1. Type of endangered, amphibious canine common around 1200 AD.

 

2. Obscure Free Mason Chapter. Also common around 1200 AD

 

3. A person between the age of 70 and 79. (And often possessing a vast degree of wisdom.)

 

from Latin septuagenarius (based on septuaginta ‘seventy’)

[Emp9]

3. A person between the age of 70 and 79. (And often possessing a vast degree of wisdom.)

 

from Latin septuagenarius (based on septuaginta ‘seventy’)

 

I didn’t think it was #1 either:

 

We’ll go with #3 then

[jacksonianmarch]

Sale can’t catch a break. 7IP 3ER 10K and his team gets no hit

[Bellhorn04]

Just good old buzzard luck. The principle of randomness says this will correct itself.

[oldtimer]

Yes indeed your dad is a qualified septuagenarian, and a legitimate 'baby boomer' if born in 1946. If born in 1945, he would be included in a distinctively different category.

 

Almost exactly nine months after World War II ended, “the cry of the baby was heard across the land,” as historian Landon Jones later described the trend. More babies were born in 1946 than ever before: 3.4 million, 20 percent more than in 1945. This was the beginning of the so-called “baby boom.” In 1947, another 3.8 million babies were born; 3.9 million were born in 1952; and more than 4 million were born every year from 1954 until 1964, when the boom finally tapered off. By then, there were 76.4 million “baby boomers” in the United States. They made up almost 40 percent of the nation’s population.

 

Having been born in 1941, I'm a proud member of the Silent Generation that was made up of about 50 million children born between 1925 and 1945. Children from this group were plagued with war and economic instability as a result of the Great Depression.

 

So if your dad was born in 1945, he too would be categorized as a member of the Silent Generation.

 

I too was born in 1941. My dad was born in 1896. He fought in WW1 but they wouldn't take him in WW2.

[notin]

it will be interesting to see if Sale gets frustrated if he continues to receive minimal run support and continues to receive no-decisions. he is still yet to get paid so although wins dont mean much to us astute TS forum members something tells me his agent would like him to get a heap of them.....

 

His agent isn't going to struggle to find stats that support a massive paycheck...

[Kimmi]

Sale can’t catch a break. 7IP 3ER 10K and his team gets no hit

 

The mighty Orioles are 3-1 against the Yankees.

 

3-14 against everyone else.

[notin]

Sale can’t catch a break. 7IP 3ER 10K and his team gets no hit

 

The Sox are 6-3 in games started by Sale and Price. 11-0 in games started by anyone else.

 

The are 1-2 in games where Sale pitches 6 or more innings. 2-0 when Sale throws less than 6 innings. ( The less Sale the better? )

 

For those who think pitcher wins matter. ..

[mvp 78]

The Sox are 6-3 in games started by Sale and Price. 11-0 in games started by anyone else.

 

The are 1-2 in games where Sale pitches 6 or more innings. 2-0 when Sale throws less than 6 innings. ( The less Sale the better? )

 

For those who think pitcher wins matter. ..

 

Does anyone still think wins matter?

[Bellhorn04]

Does anyone still think wins matter?

 

Not me, but yes.

[mvp 78]

Not me, but yes.

 

I don't remember anyone caring about that on TS in a long time. I also no longer keep a notebook scouting each poster's opinion so that I can ask them gotcha questions later on.

[Slasher9]

Does anyone still think wins matter?

no. but it doesnt hurt the resume when you are a FA.

62-28 / 10 ND / 3.58 ERA / 1.14 WHIP

32-28 / 40 ND / 3.17 ERA / 1.09 WHIP

who do you think would get the bigger $$$ contract?

[mvp 78]

no. but it doesnt hurt the resume when you are a FA.

62-28 / 10 ND / 3.58 ERA / 1.14 WHIP

32-28 / 40 ND / 3.17 ERA / 1.09 WHIP

who do you think would get the bigger $$$ contract?

 

Depends on age, RHP/LHP and where they were pitching.

[SoxnCycles]

Does anyone still think wins matter?

 

Matter to what or to whom?

[Slasher9]

Depends on age, RHP/LHP and where they were pitching.

 

they are twins pitching for the same club.

29Y / LHP / Fenway Park / 700IP

[moonslav59]

no. but it doesnt hurt the resume when you are a FA.

62-28 / 10 ND / 3.58 ERA / 1.14 WHIP

32-28 / 40 ND / 3.17 ERA / 1.09 WHIP

who do you think would get the bigger $$$ contract?

 

Assuming everything else is equal (age, health, home park, quality of opponents, I think the 3.17/1.09 guy gets more.

[mvp 78]

Matter to what or to whom?

 

That's my question.

[mvp 78]

they are twins pitching for the same club.

29Y / LHP / Fenway Park / 700IP

 

I think the second guy gets a little more, but it's pretty close.

[moonslav59]

Out of the 60 pitchers with 700+ IP since 2013, a 3.17 ERA would place you 11th behind Strasburg and ahead of Felix & Lester. A 3.58 ERA would place 29th- tied with Quintana and just ahead of Archer and Cashner.

 

Fangraphs has these values listed:

 

$170M Quintana

$167M Lester

$163M Strasburg

$137M Archer

$123M Felix

 

(For what it's worth.)

[mvp 78]

Out of the 60 pitchers with 700+ IP since 2013, a 3.17 ERA would place you 11th behind Strasburg and ahead of Felix & Lester. A 3.58 ERA would place 29th- tied with Quintana and just ahead of Archer and Cashner.

 

Fangraphs has these values listed:

 

$170M Quintana

$167M Lester

$163M Strasburg

$137M Archer

$123M Felix

 

(For what it's worth.)

 

The problem is that FA pitchers are a premium and both would get PAID. If Archer were a FA last offseason, he would be cashing sizable checks this year. Cashner is a bit of a different story because his numbers are boosted by pitching at Petco 50% of the time.

[moonslav59]

The problem is that FA pitchers are a premium and both would get PAID. If Archer were a FA last offseason, he would be cashing sizable checks this year. Cashner is a bit of a different story because his numbers are boosted by pitching at Petco 50% of the time.

 

Yes, both would get paid, but I think the question was geared towards who would get more? Who is worth more to the average GM?

 

Most GMs probably don't look too closely at wins or ERA, but my guess is ERA is worth more.

[Kimmi]

Does anyone still think wins matter?

 

Yes, there are a lot of people who still do.