2018 Prospect Mega Thread

[jacksonianmarch]

This guy is such an underestimated prospect. MLB had him ranked as the Red Sox's 15th best prospect going into the season. He could turn into a valuable trade chip. Then again, I'm not sure if I want the Red Sox to move him. Beeks is a little older than Chase Adams but is he really much worse than Chase Adams, a guy who made the top 100 list?

 

Beeks is not the prospect Adams is as they are completely different pitchers. Beeks is a small statured lefty with velocity that doesn't hold in his starts. In short stints, he can top out at 95, but as a starter, he sits right around 90mph and his velo will drop into the 87-88 range later in games. Both Adams and Beeks have a deep arsenal, yet Adams actually has the hammer breaking balls and the command to control all of his pitches. Adams will top out at 100mph and can sit in the 95-96mph range deep into games. Even the most pink hatted prospect website run by jsinger has Beeks a reliever in the majors.

[Larry Cook]

Mata with a rough day today. 6 walks, 4 hits and 2 runs.

[Larry Cook]

Cole sturgeon with his third tater on the season. Now hitting over 400.

[Larry Cook]

Dalbec with another tater tonight. He may be hitting well under 200, but he does have 4 taters thus far this season!

[moonslav59]

Dalbec with another tater tonight. He may be hitting well under 200, but he does have 4 taters thus far this season!

 

Quiroz has 4 taters and is hitting .400!

[moonslav59]

Travis is now batting .350.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

At some point this year, I would expect the Red Sox to move Beeks to the bullpen with the idea of promoting him to the major leagues as a one inning shutdown lefty reliever. He could be very good in that role, better than any bullpen upgrade through the trade market.

 

Even if the Red Sox move Beeks to the bullpen this year, I would continue to develop him next year as a SP.

[moonslav59]

At some point this year, I would expect the Red Sox to move Beeks to the bullpen with the idea of promoting him to the major leagues as a one inning shutdown lefty reliever. He could be very good in that role, better than any bullpen upgrade through the trade market.

 

Even if the Red Sox move Beeks to the bullpen this year, I would continue to develop him next year as a SP.

 

I'm not sure we'd want to jerk him around in the midst of his development.

 

We have Pom due to become a FA, Wright's career in a sort of limbo and Johnson/Velzquez not really proven, yet. Price's health is another reason to keep possible starters stretched out.

[mvp 78]

Cole sturgeon with his third tater on the season. Now hitting over 400.

 

Sturgeon is a 26 year old repeating AA. I want to see what he does at AAA before I start to think about him too hard.

[Hugh2]

I wouldn't advocate jerking any guy around but moving a guy from starting to the bullpen is perfectly normal. Even if you think his place is in the bullpen, you let him start as long as he can, maybe he proves you wrong but if nothing else he logs more innings and lets his stuff develop more.

 

Beeks seems destined for the bullpen, he just doesn't seem to have the size to endure a full season nor the strength to go deep into games, and his stuff is better in short bursts. Nothing wrong with that, we have holes in the pen too and he could be really good there.

[moonslav59]

I wouldn't advocate jerking any guy around but moving a guy from starting to the bullpen is perfectly normal. Even if you think his place is in the bullpen, you let him start as long as he can, maybe he proves you wrong but if nothing else he logs more innings and lets his stuff develop more.

 

Beeks seems destined for the bullpen, he just doesn't seem to have the size to endure a full season nor the strength to go deep into games, and his stuff is better in short bursts. Nothing wrong with that, we have holes in the pen too and he could be really good there.

 

I don't doubt your opinion. I'm just still a little worried that Price will go down injured and we may need extended starter depth, this year.

 

Maybe as the end of the season nears, we can try him out of the pen a few times.

 

A lot depends on how Johnson and Velazquez progress this year. They're both off to a nice start, but the ML season is a long one.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Can we find one prospect, drafted under Dombrowski (Red Sox tenure) that is excelling right now? I can't find one.

[moonslav59]

Can we find one prospect, drafted under Dombrowski (Red Sox tenure) that is excelling right now? I can't find one.

 

How many GMs have players drafted in 2016 and 2017 that are excelling right now?

[jacksonianmarch]

How many GMs have players drafted in 2016 and 2017 that are excelling right now?

 

A whole lot

[Hugh2]

A whole lot

 

I think that is a little unfair. 2017 draftees mostly have a couple weeks of sample sizes right now and the 2016 draft was all about Groome. As weak as our system is, I still think Groome has a lot of potential with a high ceiling. However, he does have a long way to go.

 

A lot of the picks from our 2016 draft are also already gone, Guys like Anderson and Nogosek left to bring in Nunez and Reed. Others like CJ Chatham, Dalbec, and Shawaryn have showed potential too. Chatham lost some time recovering from an injury but he's off to a hot start and Dalbec has the best raw power in our system. Yes, those guys are far off and not big candidates to be stars but how many teams end up drafting more than one high ceiling prospect who puts himself in that stratosphere every year? and like I said that draft was all about Groome.

 

The 2017 draft is just ridiculously too soon to even talk about.

 

Also, I think drafts are more of an indictment on a team and it's scouting department than a G.M. although I think a G.M. probably does have his hands all over the first round pick. So lets see what Groome and Houck do. Houck who was drafted in 2017 doesn't even have 11 innings yet this year.

[moonslav59]

A whole lot

 

Let me word it this way, How many are there that drafted a HS player in 2016 with their first pick?

[mvp 78]

2016 HS pitchers playing better than Groome: Ian Anderson (Braves - picked before Groome), Forrest Whitley (Astros - picked after Groome)

 

The other 3 HS pitchers are struggling like Groome and/or injured.

[Larry Cook]

Sadly houck is struggling with control thus far this young season and he is a college pitcher from the best conference in college baseball - the sec.

[moonslav59]

2016 HS pitchers playing better than Groome: Ian Anderson (Braves - picked before Groome), Forrest Whitley (Astros - picked after Groome)

 

The other 3 HS pitchers are struggling like Groome and/or injured.

 

Thanks for the info.

 

So, nobody has a HS player picked in 2016 who is excelling at the MLB level right now.

 

And, since groome is not excelling at the MLb level right now, DD should be criticized.

 

Hmm....

[jacksonianmarch]

Josh Lowe is doing well in High A this year

Blake Rutherford was doing well with us an is killing it this year with Chicago

Hudson Potts hit 20HR in his first full season last year

Taylor Trammell has been very good since his drafting

Joey Wentz has been dominant on the mound

 

There were a lot of college players who have done well since their drafting as well. Nobody thinks Groome was a bad pick, just that he hasn't stayed healthy and hasn't progressed

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I wasn't really focusing on Groome; I was looking at all of Dombrowski's draftees and the performance level isn't there yet (Chatman is hitting in Greenville and that is a good sign but he is 23 years old and so we can't get excited about him until he performs well at the Double A level). The sample size is pretty small, and maybe some of these guys will emerge. It hasn't happened so far, though. Edited April 21, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[jacksonianmarch]

I think the criticism comes with the rest of the 16 draft. Chatham was injured and didn't start out well. He is doing fine in the first half of April to this point, but he is 23 in the lowest long season league.

Shaun Anderson was dealt for Eduardo Nunez. He has actually been dominant in the SF system

Bobby Dalbec has shown flashes of a good power/OBP combo, but hasn't put it together against like aged foes

Shawaryn is probably the best sleeper of the draft and has made it all the way to AA

Nogosek has been very good, but he went to the Mets in the Addison Reed deal

Ryan Scott isnt progressing

Alan Marrero has done nothing

Matt McLean has done nothing

Espinal has some intrigue but limited upside and production

 

When you think about it, your headliner has been hurt, two high producing picks were dealt away. Youre left with one producing player in Shawaryn and one guy showing potential in Dalbec and thats about it.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Shaun Anderson was dealt for Eduardo Nunez. He has actually been dominant in the SF system

 

I missed Anderson. That's one Dombrowski draftee that is performing well. Unfortunately, he was traded away.

 

I missed Shawaryn. I thought he was in the system before Dombrowski, but I now see that isn't the case.

[Larry Cook]

Not a great night for schreff.

 

Beeks on the other hand, is looking like a beast.

[mvp 78]

From Sox Prospects:

 

Jalen Beeks hasn't allowed an earned run in 13-consecutive innings and picked up his first win of the season with the PawSox in a 6-0 victory over the Stripers on Saturday. The 12th round draft pick in 2014 lowered his ERA to 0.64. Beeks continues to ride a hot hand for the PawSox, notching his first win in three starts this season. Beeks has punched out 26 batters, and has issued just five walks this season, good for an average of 16.71 strikeouts per nine innnings.

[Larry Cook]

Bogey with a tater tonight for Pawtucket.

 

Crawford was wonderful for greenville tonight!

[mvp 78]

 

Look at how tall Carlos Martinez is standing next to Devers. He's a 19 year old OF prospect in the DSL.

[moonslav59]

Moncada with his 5th dinger of the season, today. He's up over .850 in OPS.

[moonslav59]

http://news.soxprospects.com/2018/04/the-write-up-roniel-raudes-and.html

[Larry Cook]

Kemp with a tater tonight for Salem.

 

Houck had his best outing of the year tonight.