Rafael Devers

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

Yeah I don't get the comment that DD is not trying to win this year. If that were the case they would have never made this move. I like the idea, I mean what choice do they have? As mentioned they can't possibly get less production out of the 3rd base position. I highly doubt it will do irreversible damage should he fail just as I don't believe it caused damage to Yoan when he came up and struggled. And it just might work out. They are in first place despite the worst production at the bottom of the lineup I can ever recall, this is clearly a gamble worth taking.

[notin]

Torres is out for the season after TJS

 

And was reportedly very close to being called up to replace Headley at third base...

[OH FOY]

Yanks got Andujar, for 3rd. Another kid that looks good. Hitting .312 both at Double and Triple AAA.

[OH FOY]

You guys are right Devers, should be called up, this Offense is stagnant, I would even put Travis at 1st, try the kids to light a fire under their ass. Farrell can bring in Marrero in late innings with a lead for Defense. If he thinks of it.

[mvp 78]

You guys are right Devers, should be called up, this Offense is stagnant, I would even put Travis at 1st, try the kids to light a fire under their ass. Farrell can bring in Marrero in late innings with a lead for Defense. If he thinks of it.

 

Yeah, not starting Travis against LHP seems weird to me.

[Slasher9]

OK...i'm officially HYPE for Rafi. #11 jersey ordered....

[mvp 78]

OK...i'm officially HYPE for Rafi. #11 jersey ordered....

 

Panic move, imo. Once he hits .400 next year, they'll unretire #9 and give it to him. Then you'll have to buy a new jersey.

[Kimmi]

Not to be a downer, but I'm not all that excited about leading the division. We're on a 6-10 run and we could be in third place by the weekend. Not that I'm expecting that, but it's the nature of the baseball season. Also the Yankees are about due for a turnaround.

 

Or maybe the Sox are due for a turnaround!

[Kimmi]

I'm personally surprised by the move, i really thought they'd have made a trade. I stopped talking about Devers 2 months ago. And I'm sure they've heard the clamoring to bring up Devers all year. I dont think its a panic move as much as i think they wanted it to be THEIR move. Either that or light bulb finally switched on somewhere. That's how most managment FO's work in any arena. They ignore the writing on the wall for as long as they can. They take pride in being contradictory simply for the sake of it it seems and call it wisdom. They say one thing, then immediately say something to the contrary in the following sentence. They hedge their bets. I think its a control thing. Only THEY know. No one else could possibly know, right?

 

IMHO, trading Devers for a quick fix would've been the ultimate panic move. Sticking with the status quo of Lin/Marrero wld be a frozen in panic non-move that doesn't solve anything. It's not like they didn't give Pablo/Lin/Marrero all the chances in the world to win the job. Devers isn't a panic move, he just happens to be next in line.

 

Fair post Emp. I am certainly glad that the FO didn't trade Devers for a quick fix, and agree that would be the ultimate panic move.

 

I still believe that had the outcomes of recent series for both us and the Yankees been different, Devers would not be called up, hence my feeling that this was a panic move. JMO.

[Kimmi]

Sorry, but this looks like a desperation move to me. Also makes it looke like Dombrowski isn't really serious about winning this year, but I wasn't sure he was before the season started. Mooreland is decent, but he's no replacement for Ortiz, and we're paying the price nightly.

 

I do not agree that Dombrowski really isn't serious about winning this year.

[mvp 78]

Or maybe the Sox are due for a turnaround!

 

Probably this.

[Kimmi]

Doing more in the offseason would have been the first step. David Ortiz was never replaced, and even if you argue he couldn't be replaced, it wasn't even attempted. From day one I've said this team didn't have enough hitting. Ortiz is gone, and the ancillary players are not only not replacing him, they aren't even doing what they normally do. No hitter in that lineup is playing to potential. Pedroia maybe, but even he's experiencing a power outage. This is the most pathetic, non-clutch offense I've seen on the Red Sox in a long long time--and we all saw this coming since last October, and virtually nothing was done to forestall it.

 

Is that Dombrowski's fault? He assembled a very good team on paper, according to both the stats and the baseball analysts. If players are not performing to expectations, I don't think a GM can be blamed for that.

 

Sure, it's unrealistic to expect every player to play at or above expectations, but it's also unrealistic to think that every player will perform below expectations. Some would call it an enigma.

[Kimmi]

What hell is wrong with people? Okay, it's 0-2 in bottom of second. Looks like we'll be shut out. I'm going to bed.

 

Devers is NOT in the lineup. Devers is NOT in the lineup. And we're going to somehow dismiss him? Again, what do we have to lose? Brock Holt? Are you freaking kidding me? He's one play away from going on DL again.

 

Hell Devers can go hitless and he'd still be an upgrade as far as I'm concerned. Give the kid a chance.

 

You are absolutely right Nick.

 

I'm over this offense.

 

Bring on the kid!

[mvp 78]

You are absolutely right Nick.

 

I'm over this offense.

 

Bring on the kid!

 

I was ok with them sitting Devers for Marrero against a LHP (maybe Marerro's defensive upgrade would be a wash with Devers' hitting), but once XBo was taken out of the lineup and Holt inserted, it just made me scratch my head. The bottom of the order went 0-12.

[Kimmi]

I was ok with them sitting Devers for Marrero against a LHP (maybe Marerro's defensive upgrade would be a wash with Devers' hitting), but once XBo was taken out of the lineup and Holt inserted, it just made me scratch my head. The bottom of the order went 0-12.

 

They had announced, pretty much at the same time that they announced his call up, that Devers would not be playing on Monday night, and that he would start Tuesday.

 

I'm sure it was a whirlwind day for Devers, not to mention the flight to the west coast. I can understand giving him a day to take it all in.

[mvp 78]

They had announced, pretty much at the same time that they announced his call up, that Devers would not be playing on Monday night, and that he would start Tuesday.

 

I'm sure it was a whirlwind day for Devers, not to mention the flight to the west coast. I can understand giving him a day to take it all in.

 

I generally agree. However, he couldn't have been worse than 0 for 3.

[Emp9]

Fair post Emp. I am certainly glad that the FO didn't trade Devers for a quick fix, and agree that would be the ultimate panic move.

 

I still believe that had the outcomes of recent series for both us and the Yankees been different, Devers would not be called up, hence my feeling that this was a panic move. JMO.

 

They can still make a trade if they don't like what they see. If that happens though, i'd be a little disappionted they would, in essance, have given everyone else a much longer look than Devers

[Bellhorn04]

They weren't sitting him, just giving him an acclimatization day, they did the same with Benintendi last year.

[harmony]

When James Paxton is on, like he was last night, the lefthander would likely make Rafael Devers look foolish at the plate.

 

The Red Sox probably made a wise decision is having Devers debut against righthander Felix Hernandez, who has been hittable this year, surrendering 69 hits in 62.2 innings this year. Lefthanded hitters have posted a .327/.374/.533/.907 line in 115 plate appearances against Hernandez this season.

Edited July 25, 2017 by harmony

[Emp9]

When James Paxton is on, like he was last night, the lefthander would likely make Rafael Devers look foolish at the plate.

 

The Red Sox probably made a wise decision is having Devers debut against righthander Felix Hernandez, who has been hittable this year, surrendered 69 hits in 62.2 innings this year. Lefthanded hitters have posted a .327/.374/.533/.907 line in 115 plate appearances against Hernandez this year.

 

Yeah, Paxton was lights out earlier in the year, then got injured. He seems to be back to his truer form. Good for my fantasy team, not so good for my favorite team.

[harmony]

Yeah, Paxton was lights out earlier in the year, then got injured. He seems to be back to his truer form. Good for my fantasy team, not so good for my favorite team.

Good for my fantasy team and for my favorite team.

[OH FOY]

When James Paxton is on, like he was last night, the lefthander would likely make Rafael Devers look foolish at the plate.

 

The Red Sox probably made a wise decision is having Devers debut against righthander Felix Hernandez, who has been hittable this year, surrendering 69 hits in 62.2 innings this year. Lefthanded hitters have posted a .327/.374/.533/.907 line in 115 plate appearances against Hernandez this season.

 

He can hit Lefties. One of the games I saw him he cranked a HR too, off a Lefty.

https://www.milb.com/milb/news/boston-red-sox-top-prospect-rafael-devers-does-it-all-in-triple-a-debut/c-242346812/t-185364810

Edited July 25, 2017 by OH FOY!

[Kimmi]

They can still make a trade if they don't like what they see. If that happens though, i'd be a little disappionted they would, in essance, have given everyone else a much longer look than Devers

 

One week really isn't long enough to them anything. I they were going to call him up, they should have done so earlier.

[harmony]

He can hit Lefties. One of the games I saw him he cranked a HR too, off a Lefty.

https://www.milb.com/milb/news/boston-red-sox-top-prospect-rafael-devers-does-it-all-in-triple-a-debut/c-242346812/t-185364810

Neal Cotts, a 37-year-old lefthander with a 4.04 ERA at Triple A this year, is no James Paxton.

 

This year in his larger sample size at Double A Portland, Devers posted an OPS of .993 against righthanders and .793 against lefthanders (and then 1.075 and .958 in the smaller sample at Triple A Pawtucket).

[mvp 78]

One week really isn't long enough to them anything. I they were going to call him up, they should have done so earlier.

 

Yes, either back in June or the day after the AA AS Game.

[OH FOY]

Career LHB are hitting .273 against Paxton. That stinks. He's better against RHB. Edited July 25, 2017 by OH FOY!

[S5Dewey]

Is that Dombrowski's fault? He assembled a very good team on paper, according to both the stats and the baseball analysts. If players are not performing to expectations, I don't think a GM can be blamed for that.

 

Sure, it's unrealistic to expect every player to play at or above expectations, but it's also unrealistic to think that every player will perform below expectations. Some would call it an enigma.

 

DD seems to have gotten the blame from some posters here for the Tigers not winning the WS during his tenure there.

[harmony]

Career LHB are hitting .273 against Paxton. That stinks. He's better against RHB.

This year lefthanded hitters have posted a .172/.226/.207/.433 line in 62 plate appearances against James Paxton (although Jackie Bradley managed two of the four Red Sox hits last night).

[mvp 78]

Career LHB are hitting .273 against Paxton. That stinks. He's better against RHB.

 

This year, his numbers are way better against LHB than RHB.

[bosoxmal]

Mell Ott was in his second full season when he hit. 328 with 42 HR! And, oh, yes; he had 152 RBIs

 

AT AGE 2-!

 

Go, Kid, GO!