Josh Donaldson deadline deal?

[Bellhorn04]

When I opened the MLB.com there was a blurb about a Josh Donaldson deadline deal being a possibility this year. I didn't bother reading the story, but when I checked his contract status I realized it could easily happen. 2018 is his last arb year and walk year. The Jays are unlikely to retain him in free agency, and they may not be going anywhere this year, so it might be the appropriate time to get some young talent for him. If so the Sox might be one of the interested parties, though God knows what the Jays would be looking for...and God knows we don't have that much left to give. But it's another story to watch, at least.

[S5Dewey]

He'd be expensive in terms of prospects, especially since he's in our own division. But he's sure worth kicking the tires on.

[dustcover]

JBJ, Hernandez, & a minor league pitcher, just to see if they'll bite.

[tombirner]

When I opened the MLB.com there was a blurb about a Josh Donaldson deadline deal being a possibility this year. I didn't bother reading the story, but when I checked his contract status I realized it could easily happen. 2018 is his last arb year and walk year. The Jays are unlikely to retain him in free agency, and they may not be going anywhere this year, so it might be the appropriate time to get some young talent for him. If so the Sox might be one of the interested parties, though God knows what the Jays would be looking for...and God knows we don't have that much left to give. But it's another story to watch, at least.

 

For the life of me, the most baffling move by the Sox' front office in the last ten years was not making a play for Donaldson. We badly needed a third baseman that off-season, not to mention an right-handed terror who would hit 50 home runs in Fenway. We had a much deeper farm system than Toronto, much deeper pockets to extend him, and are always one of the most active teams on the trade/free agent market.

 

What was the main piece of that trade? Brett Lawrie?? Holy s***, that hurts the Sox almost as much as the A's. Is that dude even in the league anymore?

 

And then to make matters even worse, we signed Sandoval for third. Gut-wrenching. Donaldson is a punk, but Jesus Christ can he hit. I could not imagine the numbers he would have put up in our lineup the past few years.

[Fisk]

We would not have the prospects to acquire him unless we included Devers and Groome, that would be stupid.

[Emp9]

For the life of me, the most baffling move by the Sox' front office in the last ten years was not making a play for Donaldson. We badly needed a third baseman that off-season, not to mention an right-handed terror who would hit 50 home runs in Fenway. We had a much deeper farm system than Toronto, much deeper pockets to extend him, and are always one of the most active teams on the trade/free agent market.

 

What was the main piece of that trade? Brett Lawrie?? Holy s***, that hurts the Sox almost as much as the A's. Is that dude even in the league anymore?

 

And then to make matters even worse, we signed Sandoval for third. Gut-wrenching. Donaldson is a punk, but Jesus Christ can he hit. I could not imagine the numbers he would have put up in our lineup the past few years.

 

The Sox DID inquire about Donaldson that offseason and were told he wasn't available. As to why the A's made him available to Toronto (probably getting less back in the process as well), no one knows.

[S5Dewey]

IIRC Donaldson had become kind of a pain in the ass to the A's organization so they traded him. Much like Chris Sale in Chicago, only Sale commanded a better price.

[Emp9]

IIRC Donaldson had become kind of a pain in the ass to the A's organization so they traded him. Much like Chris Sale in Chicago, only Sale commanded a better price.

 

right, but that was known even when the Sox were looking to acquire him. Maybe things got worse? I wish they checked back with the Sox is all. It was just bad timing, i guess.

[Jack Flap]

The Sox DID inquire about Donaldson that offseason and were told he wasn't available. As to why the A's made him available to Toronto (probably getting less back in the process as well), no one knows.

 

One can only imagine how the last few years would have been different if we'd been able to land Donaldson. Say what you will about Dombrowski, but something tells me he wouldn't have let something like this happen right under his nose.

[Emp9]

One can only imagine how the last few years would have been different if we'd been able to land Donaldson. Say what you will about Dombrowski, but something tells me he wouldn't have let something like this happen right under his nose.

 

DD certainly gets his man. No matter the cost. For better or worse.

[S5Dewey]

DD certainly gets his man. No matter the cost. For better or worse.

 

It's all worth it if we win the WS. I think.

[Emp9]

It's all worth it if we win the WS. I think.

 

That would fall under 'better', yes.

[Slasher9]

DD certainly gets his man. No matter the cost. For better or worse.

 

this.

[moonslav59]

JBJ, Hernandez, & a minor league pitcher, just to see if they'll bite.

 

3 1/3 seasons from JBJ

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4 1/3 or more seasons from Marco

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a prospect

 

for

 

 

1/3 season from Donaldson?

 

I wouldn't do it. We'd have to find an OF'er this winter as well.

 

 

I'd give Devers a chance before we do anything major like this for a rental at 3B.

[Bellhorn04]

3 1/3 seasons from JBJ

+

4 1/3 or more seasons from Marco

+

a prospect

 

for

 

 

1/3 season from Donaldson?

 

I wouldn't do it. We'd have to find an OF'er this winter as well.

 

 

I'd give Devers a chance before we do anything major like this for a rental at 3B.

 

Correction: 1 and 1/3 seasons from Donaldson.

[a700hitter]

Do it if they will take it.

[Dojji]

Call me crazy but I'd rather go for Adrian Beltre. The cost in assets would be less since he's older, he's also in range for a deadline deal, he's succeeded here before, and he's still getting it done at third base when healthy. Devers is killing it in Portland right now, there's no need to gum up the position with an expensive superstar. Buy the older veteran as long as his health looks good at the end of July, and use him to hold until Devers is good to go. Edited May 3, 2017 by Dojji

[a700hitter]

Call me crazy but I'd rather go for Adrian Beltre. The cost in assets would be less since he's older, he's also in range for a deadline deal, he's succeeded here before, and he's still getting it done at third base.

 

Unless we have completely given up on Devers, and there's no reason whatsoever to have done so right now, I don't want to gum up the third base position with an expensive superstar. If we want Donaldson that badly, wait and sign him in FA. Since we have Devers on the roster and presumably wouldn't be trading him for Donaldson or Beltre, the veteran Beltre is the superior choice for where we are right now as a franchise.

That would be good, but will Texas be in sell mode?

[Dojji]

They're off to a rocky start. I'd rate it as "distinctly possible."

 

Didn't realize Beltre was hurting when I posted that. Still, a calf strain isn't generally an injury that puts your season into question, he's probably gonna be healthy by July, so I stand by preferring Beltre to Donaldson.

[S5Dewey]

They're off to a rocky start. I'd rate it as "distinctly possible."

 

Didn't realize Beltre was hurting when I posted that. Still, a calf strain isn't generally an injury that puts your season into question, he's probably gonna be healthy by July, so I stand by preferring Beltre to Donaldson.

 

I still want Iggy back. Maybe if the Tigers are out of the race by the deadline.....

 

 

[..and for those of you who want to pounce on this post... lighten up, guys! I know there are a dozen reasons why it probably won't happen. It's a tongue-in-cheek comment, which doesn't always carry well on line]

[jacksonianmarch]

He's an MVP caliber player with another year attached plus QO capability. A deal for him would be massive and since the Jays run appears to be over, a JBJ caliber player isn't worth it. The Jays decimated their farm to get to this level, they'll need it to be rebuilt.

[bkzwhitestrican]

I can't see this ever happening. Besides the crazy cost for Donaldson (I don't believe the Sox have the prospect talent for this trade, they'd need to include a major leaguer as well), teams just don't trade within their own division. Especially in the AL East.

[jacksonianmarch]

The Jays and Sox will trade, but a premium will be added onto the cost. The sox have some prospect capital, but the teams involved would be pretty stocked with talent. I could see NY getting involved if the Yankees are in it and Headley cools off, but I hope not. The Rangers make a ton of sense if Beltre is finally cooked.

[Thunder]

They're off to a rocky start. I'd rate it as "distinctly possible."

 

Didn't realize Beltre was hurting when I posted that. Still, a calf strain isn't generally an injury that puts your season into question, he's probably gonna be healthy by July, so I stand by preferring Beltre to Donaldson.

 

That's what put Donaldson on the DL....

 

I do like the idea though. I witnessed Devers first hand this week, as he's been playing in Hartford against the Yard Goats, whose ballpark we play in tomorrow night. A superstar at third isn't what we need. Take Beltre, or another low price, high quality 3B on a potential selling team (Castellanos, Moustakas, even Solarte) and use that to make our late season push.

[Jack Flap]

Will Middlebrooks has 4 HR and an OPS over 1.000 for Texas' AAA team...I wonder what it would take?

 

 

 

 

(Seriously, though...what Dojji and Thunder said.)

[moonslav59]

Correction: 1 and 1/3 seasons from Donaldson.

 

Correct.

 

That makes the deal much more appetizing, but I'm a huge JBJ fan, and I think Devers will ready by next year.

 

There's also the financial concern for arb 4 year.

[Fisk]

He's an MVP caliber player with another year attached plus QO capability. A deal for him would be massive and since the Jays run appears to be over, a JBJ caliber player isn't worth it. The Jays decimated their farm to get to this level, they'll need it to be rebuilt.

 

Your right they will be looking for guys like Devers and Groome. Sox would be crazy to do that with so little control of Donaldson. Also as he ages his injuries are increasing.

[dgalehouse]

It seems to me that D.D. held onto Devers and Travis because they cover the two areas of impending need. The main focus now should be to lock up the " core four " and rebuild the farm. This team can win without Donaldson. Despite the sluggish start , this is a really talented group. No need to acquire every all star out there.

[moonslav59]

It seems to me that D.D. held onto Devers and Travis because they cover the two areas of impending need. The main focus now should be to lock up the " core four " and rebuild the farm. This team can win without Donaldson. Despite the sluggish start , this is a really talented group. No need to acquire every all star out there.

 

YES!

 

We almost have to have Devers and Travis take Moreland's (and eventually HRam's) and Pablo's places (and contracts), so we can keep as many of our young stars and vets once they reach free agency.

[Dojji]

That's what put Donaldson on the DL....

 

I do like the idea though. I witnessed Devers first hand this week, as he's been playing in Hartford against the Yard Goats, whose ballpark we play in tomorrow night. A superstar at third isn't what we need. Take Beltre, or another low price, high quality 3B on a potential selling team (Castellanos, Moustakas, even Solarte) and use that to make our late season push.

 

Forgot about Moustakas. That's an interesting idea. Not exactly a Moneyballer with his terrible OBP, but a lower third of the order slugger can really help a team.