Sox hitting??

[Kimmi]

When Pedey comes back, we can move Nunez to SS and give Bogey 10 days off.

 

I'm not a doctor, so I'm not going to pretend to know more than the Sox brass, but it looks like he needs an extended rest.

 

Maybe just 2-3 days will do. maybe a day off every 4-5 days for a while will work.

 

Now that Moreland seems to be coming out of his slump, I'm not sure we'll need Nunez at DH as much as I originally thought he'd be used. To me, it looks like giving Bogey a break might be best.

 

My hope was that Bogaerts would get extended rest when Nunez was signed, but perhaps the plan all along was to give Pedroia more of a breather than Bogaerts. Either way, it's nice to have that added flexibility.

 

I do still think that Bogaerts would benefit from some time off.

[moonslav59]

Maybe Bogey doesn't need a full 10 days off, but I think 2 or 3 in a row would do him wonders, followed by another day off every 5-7 days for maybe 20 days or so. We'll need him strong for the playoffs.

[Spudboy]

Maybe Bogey doesn't need a full 10 days off, but I think 2 or 3 in a row would do him wonders, followed by another day off every 5-7 days for maybe 20 days or so. We'll need him strong for the playoffs.

 

Yeah I agree with this approach. It should be a standard procedure for all the regulars and especially if one of them is slumping.

 

Of course it helps to have a hot hitting sub available for a position.

 

I fnunez wre not on the roster we would be clamoring for the regular guy to snap out of it.

[moonslav59]

Yeah I agree with this approach. It should be a standard procedure for all the regulars and especially if one of them is slumping.

 

Of course it helps to have a hot hitting sub available for a position.

 

If nunez were not on the roster we would be clamoring for the regular guy to snap out of it.

 

Agree, but if the doctors say Bogey needs a rest, I might have wanted to call up Lin or Marrero to take Bogey's place for 10 days.

 

Plus, Holt is heating up, too.

[cp176]

Yeah I agree with this approach. It should be a standard procedure for all the regulars and especially if one of them is slumping.

 

Of course it helps to have a hot hitting sub available for a position.

 

I fnunez wre not on the roster we would be clamoring for the regular guy to snap out of it.

 

Jesus Christ ( I apologize) - jim rice played 163 games in 1978. If Bogaerts continues on his current pace, let him go when we can. he is clearly replaceable. If he took what was offerred, I might keep him but in no way is he worth the farm plus the acerage. We have to get over this love affair for these guys who really don't care much about us.

[moonslav59]

Jesus Christ ( I apologize) - jim rice played 163 games in 1978. If Bogaerts continues on his current pace, let him go when we can. he is clearly replaceable. If he took what was offerred, I might keep him but in no way is he worth the farm plus the acerage. We have to get over this love affair for these guys who really don't care much about us.

 

What makes you think Bogey doesn't "care about us", and what does that actually mean?

 

(BTW, I have said over and over that Bogey would be the one "killer B" I'd let go, if I had to choose one.)

[cp176]

What makes you think Bogey doesn't "care about us", and what does that actually mean?

 

(BTW, I have said over and over that Bogey would be the one "killer B" I'd let go, if I had to choose one.)

 

Oh boy - calling me out. I'm pretty sure that he doesn 't care about me. he might care deeply about you. i assume that he cares about his teammates.Now - further - when i said guys it was collectively used. We (meaning me not you) have historically felt that we have a mutual love affair with our home grown heros. When they signed on the dotted line, we (me again) expected them to be here year after year. I believe that Bogey as you say will follow the money and that his decision to stay here in Boston if he does will be because of the money as opposed to his caring for me or any other particular fan here. Now I freely admit that I could be wrong. perhaps he will decide to stay here in boston for much less money than he could make somewhere else. That would truly prove that he does care deeply for all of us and New England in general. With all that being said, i guess that I could simply have stated that he might be a great guy but it appears to me that he might be greatly over rated as a baseball player. oh - I also think that it is safe to say that he won't be overly concerned with what any of us think about him. In addition, in my opinion, if he left after this season (which he won't), he is just as replaceable as a clear majority of the rest of these guys are.

[cp176]

Bogey just got a nice little hit. I take back anything that I have said that might be interpreted as negative about him. lol

[a700hitter]

Oh boy - calling me out. I'm pretty sure that he doesn 't care about me. he might care deeply about you. i assume that he cares about his teammates.Now - further - when i said guys it was collectively used. We (meaning me not you) have historically felt that we have a mutual love affair with our home grown heros. When they signed on the dotted line, we (me again) expected them to be here year after year. I believe that Bogey as you say will follow the money and that his decision to stay here in Boston if he does will be because of the money as opposed to his caring for me or any other particular fan here. Now I freely admit that I could be wrong. perhaps he will decide to stay here in boston for much less money than he could make somewhere else. That would truly prove that he does care deeply for all of us and New England in general. With all that being said, i guess that I could simply have stated that he might be a great guy but it appears to me that he might be greatly over rated as a baseball player. oh - I also think that it is safe to say that he won't be overly concerned with what any of us think about him. In addition, in my opinion, if he left after this season (which he won't), he is just as replaceable as a clear majority of the rest of these guys are.

I knew what you meant. Thought it was pretty obvious, but not for some.

[cp176]

I knew what you meant. Thought it was pretty obvious, but not for some.

 

i know right - perhaps I need to be a little more precise.

[moonslav59]

Oh boy - calling me out. I'm pretty sure that he doesn 't care about me. he might care deeply about you. i assume that he cares about his teammates.Now - further - when i said guys it was collectively used. We (meaning me not you) have historically felt that we have a mutual love affair with our home grown heros. When they signed on the dotted line, we (me again) expected them to be here year after year. I believe that Bogey as you say will follow the money and that his decision to stay here in Boston if he does will be because of the money as opposed to his caring for me or any other particular fan here. Now I freely admit that I could be wrong. perhaps he will decide to stay here in boston for much less money than he could make somewhere else. That would truly prove that he does care deeply for all of us and New England in general. With all that being said, i guess that I could simply have stated that he might be a great guy but it appears to me that he might be greatly over rated as a baseball player. oh - I also think that it is safe to say that he won't be overly concerned with what any of us think about him. In addition, in my opinion, if he left after this season (which he won't), he is just as replaceable as a clear majority of the rest of these guys are.

 

I really didn't mean it as "calling you out." I honestly didn't know what you were trying to say.

[Spudboy]

i know right - perhaps I need to be a little more precise.

 

No. No you don't need to. If people pay attention to what other posters say in their posts they should become familiar with that poster's style, perspective, and personality.

 

When I read a post I commit to my mind how I believe that poster sees things. Moving forward, I am able to understand what they say readily.

 

However when you are more concerned with making sure you are heard and that you have a response for everything I can see how understanding what someone else has said ( in context ) is not a high priority.

 

Apparently it is an acceptable way to interface on message boards and social media.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

My hope was that Bogaerts would get extended rest when Nunez was signed, but perhaps the plan all along was to give Pedroia more of a breather than Bogaerts. Either way, it's nice to have that added flexibility.

 

I do still think that Bogaerts would benefit from some time off.

 

Speaking of time off:

 

Hanley Ramirez, Red Sox first baseman, exited Friday's walk-off win over White Sox with oblique soreness

http://www.masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2017/08/hanley_ramirez_red_sox_first_b.html

 

As I argue in another thread, I think Dombrowski made a mistake in not trading for L.Duda. But that shipped has sailed. If the Red Sox put Hanley on the DL, they would have a few options. (1) Call up Brentz. (2) Call up Lin or Marrero, start Lin or Marrero at SS and give Bogaerts some time off in the DH spot. This would improve the Red Sox defense. Alternatively, the Red Sox could alternate Lin or Marrero at 3b, SS, 2b, and, in turn, rotate Devers, Bogaerts, and Nunez in the DH spot. Again, the defense gets better with Lin or Marrero in there.

Edited August 5, 2017 by Fan_since_Boggs

[moonslav59]

Speaking of time off:

 

Hanley Ramirez, Red Sox first baseman, exited Friday's walk-off win over White Sox with oblique soreness

http://www.masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2017/08/hanley_ramirez_red_sox_first_b.html

 

As I argue in another thread, I think Dombrowski made a mistake in not trading for L.Duda. But that shipped has sailed. If the Red Sox put Hanley on the DL, they would have a few options. (1) Call up Brentz. (2) Call up Lin or Marrero, start Lin or Marrero at SS and give Bogaerts some time off in the DH spot. This would improve the Red Sox defense. Alternatively, the Red Sox could alternate Lin or Marrero at 3b, SS, 2b, and, in turn, rotate Devers, Bogaerts, and Nunez in the DH spot. Again, the defense gets better with Lin or Marrero in there.

 

Moreland at 1B: he's heating up.

 

Nunez at DH.

 

No or little rest for Bogey, and Pedey better get well quickly.

 

Calling up Lin or Marrero makes sense, if HRam goes on the DL, but maybe giving Brentz a look would work out better.

 

Another option might be calling up Travis or Barfield.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

The thing about Brentz: I don't really like his bat against right handed pitching. I see him as a platoon guy. I would need to think about Travis and Barfield. Obviously, Travis is already on the 40 man.

 

If Hanley goes on the DL, I would probably go with the defensive upgrade (Lin or Marrero).

[moonslav59]

The thing about Brentz: I don't really like his bat against right handed pitching. I see him as a platoon guy. I would need to think about Travis and Barfield. Obviously, Travis is already on the 40 man.

 

If Hanley goes on the DL, I would probably go with the defensive upgrade (Lin or Marrero).

 

Unless we'll need Nunez at 2B or SS, I think Nunez at DH negates the need for Travis, although one could argue for a Moreland-Travis platoon at 1B.

 

I agree with you. Boost the D by calling up Marrero or Lin.

 

If we do need Nunez at 2B or SS, then maybe using Brentz or Barfield, or even Chavis at DH might be a better call than improving our bench IF defense.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I'm actually rooting for Hanley to go on the DL even though his absence will hurt the Red Sox offense. (1) The more time on the DL, the less chance the 2019 option will vest. (2) They need a healthy Hanley for the stretch run and October. Put him on the DL and get him healthy. He will produce at a higher level when he is healthy.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Wow, I just read that Jay Bruce passed through waivers and thus can be traded to any team. If Hanley needs a DL stint, the Red Sox have to seriously consider Bruce, no?

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2725772-jay-bruce-reportedly-clears-waivers-is-eligible-to-be-traded

[cp176]

I really didn't mean it as "calling you out." I honestly didn't know what you were trying to say.

 

ok - all good

[cp176]

No. No you don't need to. If people pay attention to what other posters say in their posts they should become familiar with that poster's style, perspective, and personality.

 

When I read a post I commit to my mind how I believe that poster sees things. Moving forward, I am able to understand what they say readily.

 

However when you are more concerned with making sure you are heard and that you have a response for everything I can see how understanding what someone else has said ( in context ) is not a high priority.

 

Apparently it is an acceptable way to interface on message boards and social media.

 

That is a neat and accurate I think perspective on things posted. We are all authors of sorts I guess.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Let's say the Red Sox put Hanley on the DL and don't make a trade. Pedroia comes off the DL on Tuesday.

Lineup:

Nunez (DH)

Benintendi (LF)

Pedroia (2b)

Betts (RF)

Devers (3b)

Moreland (1b)

Bogaerts (SS)

Bradley (CF)

Vazquez ©

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

No - if jackson had opened the door to the bullpen, walked in and caught the ball it would have been a homer. If he had jumped over the fence then caught the ball it would have been a homer. His feet were on the playing field when he left the ground. he maintained possession - out!

 

Thanks

[Kimmi]

What makes you think Bogey doesn't "care about us", and what does that actually mean?

 

(BTW, I have said over and over that Bogey would be the one "killer B" I'd let go, if I had to choose one.)

 

I tend to become very attached to our players, especially the home grown ones, but I would not give any of them one of those outrageous contracts. I'm hearing 10 yr/$300 mil being thrown around for Mookie, and maybe more when he becomes a FA. I love the guy as much as anyone else, but if that's what it's going to take to keep him, I'm showing him the door.

 

Hearing that these guys are not interested in extending before FA tells me that they're looking for the biggest paycheck. It's disheartening, but that seems to be the case with almost all the players.

[Kimmi]

Speaking of time off:

 

Hanley Ramirez, Red Sox first baseman, exited Friday's walk-off win over White Sox with oblique soreness

http://www.masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2017/08/hanley_ramirez_red_sox_first_b.html

 

As I argue in another thread, I think Dombrowski made a mistake in not trading for L.Duda. But that shipped has sailed. If the Red Sox put Hanley on the DL, they would have a few options. (1) Call up Brentz. (2) Call up Lin or Marrero, start Lin or Marrero at SS and give Bogaerts some time off in the DH spot. This would improve the Red Sox defense. Alternatively, the Red Sox could alternate Lin or Marrero at 3b, SS, 2b, and, in turn, rotate Devers, Bogaerts, and Nunez in the DH spot. Again, the defense gets better with Lin or Marrero in there.

 

There seem to be a lot of options for our infield, except at first base where we would need them if Hanley goes on the DL. Hanley being injured and unable to play 1B is what kind of handcuffed Farrell for a good part of the first half. I know that many are anti-Hanley, but I really hope that he is healthy enough to avoid the DL. I think having him as a 1B option gives us a much better look than not having him there.

 

Hopefully Moreland is breaking out of his slump and can handle the job full time again if Hanley can't go.

[Kimmi]

I'm actually rooting for Hanley to go on the DL even though his absence will hurt the Red Sox offense. (1) The more time on the DL, the less chance the 2019 option will vest. (2) They need a healthy Hanley for the stretch run and October. Put him on the DL and get him healthy. He will produce at a higher level when he is healthy.

 

IMO, our team is better with Hanley on it than without. If he needs to go on the DL to get healthy, then so be it. However, I'm not rooting for a DL stint just to take at bats away from him.

[Bellhorn04]

I tend to become very attached to our players, especially the home grown ones, but I would not give any of them one of those outrageous contracts. I'm hearing 10 yr/$300 mil being thrown around for Mookie, and maybe more when he becomes a FA. I love the guy as much as anyone else, but if that's what it's going to take to keep him, I'm showing him the door.

 

Hearing that these guys are not interested in extending before FA tells me that they're looking for the biggest paycheck. It's disheartening, but that seems to be the case with almost all the players.

 

It really is pretty sad when it doesn't make sense financially for one of the richest teams in the game to hold onto any of their top young players for the long term.

[Kimmi]

It really is pretty sad when it doesn't make sense financially for one of the richest teams in the game to hold onto any of their top young players for the long term.

 

The contracts have gotten out of hand.

 

If we are going to give a player a huge contract, I'd rather give it to someone like Mookie, rather than to a free agent who's never played here before. Ideally, we'd be able to lock them up before they hit FA at a bit of a team discount, and for fewer years. A 10 year contract is insane. Even 7 or 8 years is crazy.

[moonslav59]

It really is pretty sad when it doesn't make sense financially for one of the richest teams in the game to hold onto any of their top young players for the long term.

 

If the Sox can't afford to pay market rate for a younger-than-normal FA stud, then who can?

 

Our problem is we have too many becoming FAs within a 2 year span. We should be able to keep 2 or 3 out of our big 4 (Betts, Sale, JBJ & Bogey) but probably not all 4.

 

[Larry Cook]

If the Sox can't afford to pay market rate for a younger-than-normal FA stud, then who can?

 

Our problem is we have too many becoming FAs within a 2 year span. We should be able to keep 2 or 3 out of our big 4 (Betts, Sale, JBJ & Bogey) but probably not all 4.

 

 

Sale and betts are must signs.

 

I think bogey and Bradley are represented by boras and while we have had a good relationship with boras, they will still be difficult signings.

 

Maybe price opts out and makes this a non issue.

[cp176]

Sale and betts are must signs.

 

I think bogey and Bradley are represented by boras and while we have had a good relationship with boras, they will still be difficult signings.

 

Maybe price opts out and makes this a non issue.

 

In my estimation, I think that Bogaerts still has something to prove before we talk resigning. I love JBJ as well but I think that ultimately whether he stays depends on what he wants. He brings a unique defensive skill set to the table but he is replaceable. Sale and Betts I agree - the other two not so much - slow it down see what they do. In many ways they can both be improved upon.