2017 Prospect Mega Thread

[moonslav59]

One of the best players in MLB today is Altuve.

 

Some teams dismissed him out of hand due to his size.

[bowman]

Chavis another homer and 2 more RBI's tonight. Brentz 2 more RBI's.

[Spudboy]

One of the best players in MLB today is Altuve.

 

Some teams dismissed him out of hand due to his size.

 

Well Altuve is an anomaly.

[Larry Cook]

Well Altuve is an anomaly.

 

How so?

[cp176]

Chavis another homer and 2 more RBI's tonight. Brentz 2 more RBI's.

 

Another good night for Barfield as well.

[OH FOY]

Putting up good numbers in the GCL sounds like he's raw and very far away, but a power bat emerging in the system would be very welcomed. Here's the Soxprospects profile on him:

 

 

 

 

Physical Description: Looks taller and heavier than listed. Strong, large frame. Somewhat stiff and will have to watch body as he matures.

 

Hit: Starts square with hands high. Starts on front toe and never leaves ground utilizing toe tap. Short stride, lot of upper body in swing. Long, rotational swing. Hole on the inner half, likes to get arms extended. Pitch recognition a work in progress. Lot of swing and miss. Struggles with identifying secondary offerings. Fringy bat speed.

 

Power: Plus raw power. Power comes mostly from strength. Needs to incorporate lower half into swing to tap into power in game especially against more advanced pitching.

 

Arm: Average arm.

 

Field: Stiff, minimal range. First base only profile.

 

Run: Well below-average runner, not a part of his game.

 

Career Notes: Excelled against DSL competition in 2016, when he was much more physically mature than most of the rest of the league. Participated in 2016 Fall Instructional League.

 

Summation: Bat will be tested as he progresses through the system as hasn’t shown bat speed or the approach to succeed against more advanced pitching. First base only defense profile so will have to hit both for average and power. High risk prospect with low floor due to potential for swing and miss.

 

Thank You!

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Some Jay Groome video from earlier in the month. Groome has impressive size (still only 18) and a clean delivery. He has a nasty curve, watch the third pitch in the video, how that curve drops off the table. You see the same thing with the last pitch, the strikeout pitch.

 

Groome is going to have a plus fastball, perhaps a plus-plus curveball, but I don't know how his third pitch, the changeup, is coming along. But if he doesn't develop a plus changeup, he could always develop a cutter to complement his fastball and curve.

Edited August 10, 2017 by Fan_since_Boggs

[OH FOY]

Get out of here. Stupid kid.

[Spudboy]

How so?

 

He is reportedly only 5'4" - 5'5".

 

Do I need to explain what an anomaly is?

[Larry Cook]

Brentz with another tater tonight.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Solid work from Mata 5.2 IP, 2 ER, 2 BB, 6 K's.

 

Not the most encouraging start from B.Johnson, 4 IP, 1 ER, 4 BB, 6 K's. The Red Sox seem to be treating him with kid gloves as if he isn't fully healthy.

[mvp 78]

@PawSox

 

Since May 23, Bryce Brentz has hit 22 HR.

 

Entire list of players in pro baseball w/ more in that time…

» Giancarlo Stanton

» Cody Bellinger

[Larry Cook]

Brentz with another tater tonight.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

@PawSox

 

Since May 23, Bryce Brentz has hit 22 HR.

 

Entire list of players in pro baseball w/ more in that time…

» Giancarlo Stanton

» Cody Bellinger

 

In the meantime, Chris Young has a replacement level WAR. I would get Brentz on the major league roster by Sunday -- the Red Sox face the Yankees lefty on Sunday.

 

Another day, another incompetent start from Trey Ball. I used to feel bad for this guy for some reason and then it occurred to me that he was paid 2.75 million for sucking s***. I wish someone would pay me 2.75 million for sucking s***!

 

Compare Trey Ball to a really good teacher or nurse. The teacher/nurse would need to put in how many years of hard work before earning 2.75 million?

Edited August 12, 2017 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Bellhorn04]

Compare Trey Ball to a really good teacher or nurse. The teacher/nurse would need to put in how many years of hard work before earning 2.75 million?

 

Don't go there, man. Baseball is not the real world, it's the entertainment world, and us fans are the ones who are responsible for unproven prospects getting 2.75 million...or 72.5 million if we're talking Rusney Castillo.

Edited August 12, 2017 by Bellhorn04

[OH FOY]

Groome going tonight against a real good Prospect for Rome, Wentz, this is a good game to see if he matches Wentz. It will be a 7 inning game because of DH. Wentz is leading the South Atlantic League in ERA 2.31.

Both Rome and Greenville not great hitting teams, so this should be a pitchers dual. Both Lefties, both 19. (Groome 19, Aug. 23) Wentz, Braves #9 Prospect. Groome Sox #1 Prospect.

Good game to see how your Prospects match-up to other Prospects.

 

My bad didn't see it, Wentz pitched last night. Sorry. Hernandez pitched a nice game. On web site has Groome vs. Wentz, too bad.

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_08_11_romafx_capafx_1&t=g_box&sid=milb

Edited August 12, 2017 by OH FOY!

[Hugh2]

In the meantime, Chris Young has a replacement level WAR. I would get Brentz on the major league roster by Sunday -- the Red Sox face the Yankees lefty on Sunday.

 

Another day, another incompetent start from Trey Ball. I used to feel bad for this guy for some reason and then it occurred to me that he was paid 2.75 million for sucking s***. I wish someone would pay me 2.75 million for sucking s***!

 

Compare Trey Ball to a really good teacher or nurse. The teacher/nurse would need to put in how many years of hard work before earning 2.75 million?

 

Only the best little league players played on my high school team, only the best player on someones highschool team got to go to college and play, only the best of the best college players got drafted, only the best of the guys who were drafted made it to the upper minors, and only the best of those guys become major leaguers......

 

and some of those guys aren't even very good.

 

Only the best of the best get to play, Trey is better than 99.9% of people to ever play the game and it looks like that won't be enough for him. I doubt it's for lack of trying, but this is his life and legitimately getting angry at people for not being good enough for your enjoyment is pretty, well, it's pretty lame for lack of a better term.

[OH FOY]

Groome not bad not great today, 5 innings, 7 hits, 2 ER's, 0 BB's, 7 K's, 1 HR. Like that he had no BB's. Edited August 12, 2017 by OH FOY!

[Larry Cook]

Groome not bad not great today, 5 innings, 7 hits, 2 ER's, 0 BB's, 7 K's, 1 HR. Like that he had no BB's.

 

I like this kid's delivery, I would like to see the velocity tick up a bit. But regardless, he is a future starter.

[moonslav59]

Marrero goes 2 for 4 with an HR. He's now up to a .194 BA.

 

Carson Smith: 1 IP 0H 0ER 0BB 2K

 

Barfield with his 22 HR (.310 BA)

 

Henry Owens with only 2 BBs in 5 IP! (1H and 1 ER)

 

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Groome not bad not great today, 5 innings, 7 hits, 2 ER's, 0 BB's, 7 K's, 1 HR. Like that he had no BB's.

 

Pretty good, though, especially for an 18 year old. I love the ratios. I wonder what the average age is in that league?

 

Groome has got to be the best Red Sox pitching prospect since. . . .Lester? Or do we go all the way back to Clemons? Maybe I'm forgetting someone.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Marrero goes 2 for 4 with an HR. He's now up to a .194 BA.

 

Carson Smith: 1 IP 0H 0ER 0BB 2K

 

Barfield with his 22 HR (.310 BA)

 

Henry Owens with only 2 BBs in 5 IP! (1H and 1 ER)

 

 

I suppose C.Smith will pitch for the Red Sox in Sept. and if all goes well they would want him on the playoff roster.

 

Fortunately, after this season, H.Owens has one option remaining. So the Red Sox have one more season to fix his control. Owens has that plus change up and so there is hope for him--maybe he can be a late bloomer.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

According to some info I read on soxprospects, the Red Sox are expected to introduce Chavis to a few different positions in the offseason and then decide on which one would work best for him. Chavis will likely spend the 2018 season in the minor leagues playing that position and strengthening his defensive skills.

 

If they can get him to play a solid 2b, that would be so advantageous for the organization. You can always find a 1b, but 2b are harder to find and Pedroia might not be able to handle the position for much longer (knee). Like others, I tend to think he profiles best as a 3b or LF, but the Red Sox are set at those positions. . . .

Edited August 13, 2017 by Fan_since_Boggs

[bowman]

I like that idea...

[bowman]

Would have liked to have seen Brentz get called up instead of Scott again. The Brass can let guys like Holt, Scott, etc do what they do, but not to give a guy Like Brentz a look is a mistake. Maybe this year is a fluke, but maybe it isn't. I'm not a great Brentz fan, but I can't ignore his power numbers.

[Hugh2]

The problem with Chavis is his defense is subpar, and he'd likely be even worse at 2nd. If you can hit, you will find a spot eventually and it never really seems to matter. I'm sure the Tigers were more than happy to put up with Cabreras horrible glove at 3rd to get his production at the plate.

 

I'm not opposed to Chavis getting time at 2nd, but as long as he's healthy I'm confident Pedroia will always be much better at 2nd than Chavis ever will. Even at 37 and 38, I think Pedroias defense at 2nd is going to be superior. I'm thinking he should get some time in LF too, I'm curious to see how he can play there.

[Hugh2]

Would have liked to have seen Brentz get called up instead of Scott again. The Brass can let guys like Holt, Scott, etc do what they do, but not to give a guy Like Brentz a look is a mistake. Maybe this year is a fluke, but maybe it isn't. I'm not a great Brentz fan, but I can't ignore his power numbers.

 

What Brentz is doing might be more than a fluke, I'm intrigued. However, if he's called up now he's not going to get regular playing time between our starters. Towards the end of the year, it's no consequence because when the AAA season is over he wouldn't be getting regular playing time anyways.

 

My guess is he's called up in September as an audition for the 4th outfielder spot next year, and if he excels then he could even make the playoff roster as well.

[OH FOY]

I like Joe Oliver Salem's Manager. 2 years in a row losses all his top kids, and still keeps them in Play-off hunt.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

What Brentz is doing might be more than a fluke, I'm intrigued. However, if he's called up now he's not going to get regular playing time between our starters. Towards the end of the year, it's no consequence because when the AAA season is over he wouldn't be getting regular playing time anyways.

 

My guess is he's called up in September as an audition for the 4th outfielder spot next year, and if he excels then he could even make the playoff roster as well.

 

Brentz won't have to perform at a very high level to add more value than Chris Young, who is playing at a replacement level this year. Brentz would just need to put up some semi-decent numbers against lefties and that alone would surpass anything Chris Young is doing.

 

Brentz should have been in the lineup on Sunday against the Yankees lefty.

Edited August 14, 2017 by Fan_since_Boggs

[OH FOY]

Chavis in a mild slump, needs to finish strong.