Postseason Happenings 2016

[Spudboy]

a700 never said HFA was more important than resting players and aligning the playoff rotation.

 

All along he maintained HFA was desirable. That's it.

[Oscars]

How about those Guardians?!

Lose their starter in the 1st inning, and still beat the Jays 4-2 in Toronto to go up 3-0 in the series .

The sox losing 3-0 to the Guardians was no fluke.

[cp176]

a700 never said HFA was more important than resting players and aligning the playoff rotation.

 

All along he maintained HFA was desirable. That's it.

 

 

That clears things up a bit. It still is anyone's guess on here who truly thinks that the h/field gives anyone a monstrous advantage. it is an advantage plain and simple. I do wonder how important the actual players view it to be though. It is just a guess but I bet they far prefer to play at home as opposed to going on the road.

[Dojji]

How about those Guardians?!

Lose their starter in the 1st inning, and still beat the Jays 4-2 in Toronto to go up 3-0 in the series .

The sox losing 3-0 to the Guardians was no fluke.

 

No, that team is finding magic at the right time, every time, in these playoffs. Tito's up to his old tricks again. The Guardians have a destiny feel to their run (but then so did the Rockies in 07)

[Bellhorn04]

That clears things up a bit. It still is anyone's guess on here who truly thinks that the h/field gives anyone a monstrous advantage. it is an advantage plain and simple. I do wonder how important the actual players view it to be though. It is just a guess but I bet they far prefer to play at home as opposed to going on the road.

 

Do we really want players who far prefer to be all nice and cosy at home? I'd rather have the road warrior types.

[Dojji]

I'd rather have players that don't care one way or the other.

[Bellhorn04]

I'd rather have players that don't care one way or the other.

 

Yes, exactly.

[Slasher9]

quantify "monstrous".

if game 1 is at fenway we win it. no way to prove or disprove that. if game 2 is at fenway we win it. no way to prove or disprove it.

i like our chances up 2-0 heading to cleveland for 2.

[Dojji]

quantify "monstrous".

if game 1 is at fenway we win it. no way to prove or disprove that. if game 2 is at fenway we win it. no way to prove or disprove it.

i like our chances up 2-0 heading to cleveland for 2.

I don't like our chances of winning both homegames against a team as white hot as these Guardians.

[SoxnCycles]

a700 never said HFA was more important than resting players and aligning the playoff rotation.

 

All along he maintained HFA was desirable. That's it.

 

And that others said HFA didn't matter at all

Which is also wrong.

 

Arguing just for the sake of arguing (shocking, I know...)

[Bellhorn04]

Slash, this Cleveland team are the poster boys for your pitching = parades slogan.

[Slasher9]

Slash, this Cleveland team are the poster boys for your pitching = parades slogan.

 

no doubt. dudes finger is gushing like a geiser in the first inning and they get 9 innings of Ace like pitching from their relievers. on the road. very impressive.

tito v theo in the world series. softlaw's nightmare.

[Dojji]

I for one am glad the Boston diaspora is so well represented in these playoffs.

 

And yeah, Tito vs Theo in the World Series would be something to see. Too bad I'm working nights and will never actually be able to watch the games.

[Spudboy]

No, that team is finding magic at the right time, every time, in these playoffs. Tito's up to his old tricks again. The Guardians have a destiny feel to their run (but then so did the Rockies in 07)

 

Your opinion.

[a700hitter]

That clears things up a bit. It still is anyone's guess on here who truly thinks that the h/field gives anyone a monstrous advantage. it is an advantage plain and simple. I do wonder how important the actual players view it to be though. It is just a guess but I bet they far prefer to play at home as opposed to going on the road.

I can't think of anyone that made that argument. I asked for names, and got no answers except I was told that I said it "but not in so many words." That was totally inaccurate. There were several people who have attempted to quantify HFA so as to be so small as to be nonexistent. I have seen no stat or stats that have concluded that HFA is not an advantage. This apparently has people's underwear in a bunch so they overstate the position of those who say that it is an advantage under every and any measure so they can tilt at windmills.

[Bellhorn04]

Farrell took a beating for 'not doing more to get HFA'.

[a700hitter]

Farrell took a beating for 'not doing more to get HFA'.

Farrell took a beating for being Farrell, and it my recollection thethe people who were most critical of him in that final week were worried that the team was getting flat and playing losing ball. HFA was not a big part of it. Tell me who on TalkSox made a big deal of the HFA and dumped on Farrell for it.

[Bellhorn04]

Farrell took a beating for being Farrell, and it my recollection thethe people who were most critical of him in that final week were worried that the team was getting flat and playing losing ball. HFA was not a big part of it. Tell me who on TalkSox made a big deal of the HFA and dumped on Farrell for it.

 

Guys on the game threads, and new poster georom who I know from the BDC forum.

[cp176]

I'd rather have players that don't care one way or the other.

 

 

And the good ones might even tell you that it doesn't matter.

[cp176]

quantify "monstrous".

if game 1 is at fenway we win it. no way to prove or disprove that. if game 2 is at fenway we win it. no way to prove or disprove it.

i like our chances up 2-0 heading to cleveland for 2.

 

I really hope that I don't have to quantify much ever. Works for me to just say what I know to be true for me. (and possibly the players I coached over the course of 40 years)

[Kimmi]

That's all you got?

 

It's all I need.

[Kimmi]

I can't think of anyone that made that argument. I asked for names, and got no answers except I was told that I said it "but not in so many words." That was totally inaccurate. There were several people who have attempted to quantify HFA so as to be so small as to be nonexistent. I have seen no stat or stats that have concluded that HFA is not an advantage. This apparently has people's underwear in a bunch so they overstate the position of those who say that it is an advantage under every and any measure so they can tilt at windmills.

 

There have been several articles posted here that give you the stats that show you just how little HFA means. No one ever said that HFA didn't exist.

 

What we have posted was that HFA is not nearly as important as some people here make it out to be. A 51.25% advantage really is negligible, considering that the better team usually has HFA. You have spent pages on this thread defending HFA as though we have been posting something that you disagree with.

 

So, either you have softened your stance about it as the debate has gone on, or you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

Otherwise, just say that you agree.

[Kimmi]

There are people in the last few pages of this thread still talking up HFA.

[a700hitter]

Guys on the game threads, and new poster georom who I know from the BDC forum.

Those people don't count. They are always bitching about something.

[a700hitter]

There have been several articles posted here that give you the stats that show you just how little HFA means. No one ever said that HFA didn't exist.

 

What we have posted was that HFA is not nearly as important as some people here make it out to be. A 51.25% advantage really is negligible, considering that the better team usually has HFA. You have spent pages on this thread defending HFA as though we have been posting something that you disagree with.

 

So, either you have softened your stance about it as the debate has gone on, or you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

Otherwise, just say that you agree.

I have been pretty consistent throughout. To those who keep diminishing HFA in an attempt to convince people that it is non-existent, I have consistently replied that it is an advantage under any measure or statistic. Apparently some people cannot handle anything beyond an expression of complete agreement

[Kimmi]

I have been pretty consistent throughout. To those who keep diminishing HFA in an attempt to convince people that it is non-existent, I have consistently replied that it is an advantage under any measure or statistic. Apparently some people cannot handle anything beyond an expression of complete agreement

 

I'm glad that you recognize your shortcomings.

[Nick]

Game 1 was a winnable game. We just didn't get the job done. It's a competition. One team wins, other loses.

 

We won the Division. There will only be ONE happy team in the end. I'd like to think we accomplished a lot this year after two miserable years.

 

I simply couldn't watch the team two years ago with exception of games when E Rod pitched. I watched almost every single game this year and I enjoyed it.

 

I'm also thrilled that we have many young stars on this team and we still have pretty good farm system with future stars.

 

How can you not be excited about Betts, Xander, Bradley, Beni? Our starting five is pretty well set for two more years. We maybe in a position to add an impact player without giving up much from current talent.

[Slasher9]

Cubs fans probably not feeling very good today. noose probably starting to get tight......

[S5Dewey]

Cubs fans probably not feeling very good today. noose probably starting to get tight......

 

Agree completely, Slash. Now I wish I'd saved my recent post in the Realistic thread and posted it here instead.

[georom4]

So Cleveland has had HFA throughout the entire playoffs and has not LOST yet at home but that doesn't matter? Good to know! Based on my math prowess I can figure out that any team with HFA that does not lose at home will win the World Series. Do people on this board even watch sports? On what planet does HFA generally not make a big difference in the post season? There are obvious exceptions with wild card winners but do you think think if the NL won the All Star game and this opened at Wrigley there would be no difference in the way this series unfolds? This was my point about our series.