A Realistic View at 2016

[Nick]

Certainly not Sale or Quinatana. Maybe someone better than Pomeranz, but probably not a pitcher that will give us a feeling that we have just become a major contender for the next 2-3 years.

 

So we just hope and pray that we'd get different results with same starting pitchers? (don't get me wrong, I like the 5 we have now). Ortiz is gone. Isn't it DD's job to go win the World Series? Is he now going to take Ben's approach? Just asking.

[moonslav59]

Certainly not Sale or Quinatana. Maybe someone better than Pomeranz, but probably not a pitcher that will give us a feeling that we have just become a major contender for the next 2-3 years.

 

So we just hope and pray that we'd get different results with same starting pitchers? (don't get me wrong, I like the 5 we have now). Ortiz is gone. Isn't it DD's job to go win the World Series? Is he now going to take Ben's approach? Just asking.

 

There's not a solution to every problem.

 

Yes, we can fix this one current problem and greatly increase our chances at winning this year, but then several other problems are created down the road. This whole idea that future problems can be fixed by throwing money at it does not convince me of future success. Look at the Dodgers. Look at the Yanks of just a few short years ago. Look at our recent big ticket signings. Look at the majority of big ticket signings over the past 10-15 years.

 

I'm not for making panic moves. We should have made one more big splash (or a different one than Kimbrel) last winter, but just because we didn't, doesn't mean we have to grossly overpay at the deadline.

 

We picked up Pomeranz, Zeigler and Hill. We should have Kimbrel, Uehara, Young and Swihart back before the playoffs. I'm not saying we must stand pat, and I'm open to listening to anyone with an ace available, but that doesn't mean I'll give up everything to get an ace. If we could get Quintana for Beni, Devers, Owens and Johnson, I'd probably say yes. Or maybe Swihart, Devers & Kopech. Maybe Erod & Devers or Poemeranz, Devers and Travis, but I doubt any of these offers get us what I wish we had gotten last winter, so sometimes, you just have to stick your tail between your legs and walk away meekly. (BTW, I still think we have a good shot at winning this year, if our injury situation clears up. We went from having the 2nd or 3rd best bullpen to a bottom 10 pen almost overnight. That can change quite a bit, if we can get back to top 3 again shortly.

 

When Young comes back, our LF situation will greatly improve.

 

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[Nick]

There's not a solution to every problem.

 

Yes, we can fix this one current problem and greatly increase our chances at winning this year, but then several other problems are created down the road. This whole idea that future problems can be fixed by throwing money at it does not convince me of future success. Look at the Dodgers. Look at the Yanks of just a few short years ago. Look at our recent big ticket signings. Look at the majority of big ticket signings over the past 10-15 years.

 

I'm not for making panic moves. We should have made one more big splash (or a different one than Kimbrel) last winter, but just because we didn't, doesn't mean we have to grossly overpay at the deadline.

 

We picked up Pomeranz, Zeigler and Hill. We should have Kimbrel, Uehara, Young and Swihart back before the playoffs. I'm not saying we must stand pat, and I'm open to listening to anyone with an ace available, but that doesn't mean I'll give up everything to get an ace. If we could get Quintana for Beni, Devers, Owens and Johnson, I'd probably say yes. Or maybe Swihart, Devers & Kopech. Maybe Erod & Devers or Poemeranz, Devers and Travis, but I doubt any of these offers get us what I wish we had gotten last winter, so sometimes, you just have to stick your tail between your legs and walk away meekly. (BTW, I still think we have a good shot at winning this year, if our injury situation clears up. We went from having the 2nd or 3rd best bullpen to a bottom 10 pen almost overnight. That can change quite a bit, if we can get back to top 3 again shortly.

 

When Young comes back, our LF situation will greatly improve.

 

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Moon, I'm not talking about a 2 month rental.

 

My ultimate question is if you are the GM, and you have chance to acquire Chris Sale without giving up any major league talent, would you do it? If not, what's going to be different next year? Our window right now is 2-3 years with this group without extensions and FA signings. What would you be willing to give up knowing at least one of our top two, Moncada and Benintendi would be involved?

[moonslav59]

Moon, I'm not talking about a 2 month rental.

 

My ultimate question is if you are the GM, and you have chance to acquire Chris Sale without giving up any major league talent, would you do it? If not, what's going to be different next year? Our window right now is 2-3 years with this group without extensions and FA signings. What would you be willing to give up knowing at least one of our top two, Moncada and Benintendi would be involved?

 

I think I've already answered.

 

1) I'd prefer Quintana and his extra year over Sale.

2) I'd give up Beni and Devers plus Owens and Johnson, but I seriously doubt I'd trade Beni, Devers and Swihart or Beni, Devers and Kopech. I doubt even the latter deals get us Sale or Quintana, but if they did, I wouldn't be strongly against those 3 player deals.

3) I'd love to have Quintana for 4.3 years or Sale for 3.3 years, and I do think our "window" looks best this year and maybe over the next 3-4 years, but I also like to look beyond 3 years.

4) I am usually the one begging for us to acquire these two types of pitchers. They are young, inexpensive and under team control for 3+ years. Acquiring either of these two would be great for several reasons. Either one would bump Price to #2, Porcello to #3, Wright to #4 and Pomeranz to #5, as well as allowing ERod to be our insurance policy both this year and going forward through the next 3-4 years.

 

I want one of these guys, but there's just no way I'd give up 5-7 years of Moncada and 5-7 years of Benintendi for 3+ or 4+ years of a great SP'er. I think that's what it will take to get one. They may settle for just Moncada, but then they'd want ERod, Swihart and Devers too. I'm fine with an overpay, but not a gross overpay.

Edited July 30, 2016 by moonslav59

[S5Dewey]

I totally agree that it will take a team effort to "replace" Papi, and I understand replacing him is impossible. The point was that I believe this team can win going forward without Papi. I also think we will need plenty of young, inexpensive contributions from some of our players like Moncaada, Benintendi, Kopech, Travis, Groome and others to make it happen. Spending little on them can allow us to spend in areas we lack (pitching), and hopefully we will eventually get a FA pitcher or trade pitcher or two choice right.

 

 

[/b]

It looks like you and I are completely on the same page about this. We currently have a core group of players - JBJ, Bogaerts, Betts, the catcher (whomever he is) - and maybe Shaw locked into relatively long term short money contracts. We have Moncada and Beni coming up to fill in where needed, also on short money.

 

The bad news is that we need cheap pitching and that doesn't look like something that's going to be available.

More bad news is that we have Alan Craig and The Fat Man drawing large salaries and making no contribution to the team.

 

The good news is that with so many players locked into long term/short money contracts we can afford to buy the pitching we need.

More good news is that we have money coming off the books this year that can be spent to upgrade the pitching, but that's next season.

 

My position is that now is not the right time to expend our resources, whether it be more money or especially top-flight prospects, to make a run at it this year. The trade deadline can be the worst time to get value for money (or prospects). IMO we take what we've got and run with it. I agree with Moon and others that this team could have the talent to go deep into the playoffs as-is, but this team seems to either play very well or very poorly. If we don't go deep one player isn't going to make the difference between "Ring" and "No Ring".

[Palodios]

Dombrowski isn't particularly creative, but I wonder if he would considering flipping Price and cash to the Dodgers for prospects and using those to boost a Sale trade.

 

The Dodgers have been looking for a top tier pitcher and Price looks like he isn't meant for the AL East. If the Sox throw in 50 mill they can probably get real prospects for Price. Then, they upgrade to Sale.

[a700hitter]

Dombrowski isn't particularly creative, but I wonder if he would considering flipping Price and cash to the Dodgers for prospects and using those to boost a Sale trade.

 

The Dodgers have been looking for a top tier pitcher and Price looks like he isn't meant for the AL East. If the Sox throw in 50 mill they can probably get real prospects for Price. Then, they upgrade to Sale.

Pot is big in Seattle I guess.

[Spudboy]

Dombrowski isn't particularly creative, but I wonder if he would considering flipping Price and cash to the Dodgers for prospects and using those to boost a Sale trade.

 

The Dodgers have been looking for a top tier pitcher and Price looks like he isn't meant for the AL East. If the Sox throw in 50 mill they can probably get real prospects for Price. Then, they upgrade to Sale.

 

wut

[d-money]

I wouldn't give up on price just yet.

[oldtimer]

It looks like you and I are completely on the same page about this. We currently have a core group of players - JBJ, Bogaerts, Betts, the catcher (whomever he is) - and maybe Shaw locked into relatively long term short money contracts. We have Moncada and Beni coming up to fill in where needed, also on short money.

 

The bad news is that we need cheap pitching and that doesn't look like something that's going to be available.

More bad news is that we have Alan Craig and The Fat Man drawing large salaries and making no contribution to the team.

 

The good news is that with so many players locked into long term/short money contracts we can afford to buy the pitching we need.

More good news is that we have money coming off the books this year that can be spent to upgrade the pitching, but that's next season.

 

My position is that now is not the right time to expend our resources, whether it be more money or especially top-flight prospects, to make a run at it this year. The trade deadline can be the worst time to get value for money (or prospects). IMO we take what we've got and run with it. I agree with Moon and others that this team could have the talent to go deep into the playoffs as-is, but this team seems to either play very well or very poorly. If we don't go deep one player isn't going to make the difference between "Ring" and "No Ring".

 

Don't forget Castillo on your list of high priced players who are making no contribution to the team!

 

I would say the Present Value of each top ten minor league prospect is significant. I read something like $75 million each for Benentendi and Moncada and slightly less for Devers. Swihart also has significant value as well. I would be reluctant to trade most of that talent away for a SP who may turn out to be fragile and last less than the 3 years or 4 years of player control. Our top pitching prospects also have a Present Value but I doubt if it is as high as our position players. Our weaknesses are one outfield position, possibly third/first (one not both) and a designated hitter going forward. It looks like we may go into the free agent market for the designated hitting talent to replace Ortiz. The weakness in starting pitching is more to do with how well our current group would handle playoffs. We could also use an upgrade in the BP, but there is a great demand for similar talent by most of the contending clubs. The price for SP and BP help may not be worth the return.

[moonslav59]

We could also use an upgrade in the BP, but there is a great demand for similar talent by most of the contending clubs. The price for SP and BP help may not be worth the return.

 

We already gave up Margot, Guerra, Allen Asuaje, de la Rosa and Webster (via Miley) for Kimbrel & Carson Smith. We have since traded Basabe for Zeigler to try and fill an injury gap. I think we'll have to wait out the injuries to Uehara and Kimbrel as far as the pen is concerned.

 

The off season is the best time to stock up the pen. Last winter, there were numerous other options. Many failed- many did okay. Kimbrel was doing okay, until his injury. Smith got hurt early, and that set our pen back a lot. The extra work forced on Uehara and Tazawa may have been a factor in their struggles and injuries.

 

Here is the list of every RP'er who qualified with IP and who has changed teams over the last 1.6 years:

 

(WHIP k-BB%)

 

Chapman 0.83/32%

Kimbrel 1.09/26%

KRod 1.01/18%

K Giles 1.30/25%

Papelbon 1.47/12%

Clippard 1.30/20%

J Benoit 1.44/10%

Rodney 0.94/19%

J Soria 1.44/12%

Madson 1.30/12%

N Feliz 0.97/22%

Storen 1.64/13%

J Wilson 1.13/26%

J Broxton 1.19/8%

S Cishek 1.02/23%

Otero 1.04/17%

Ad. Reed 0.84/27%

Diekman 0.90/18%

 

Others...

M Lowe

L Hendriks

S Dyson

B Hand

C Torres

M Montgomery

JJohnson

J Axford

B Boyer

Bastardo

Mattheus

J Marinez

Y Petit

D Hernandez

Wilhelmsen

C Fien

C Ramos

Villanueva

F Abad

N Cotts

J Machi

 

 

[southpaw777]

Dombrowski isn't particularly creative, but I wonder if he would considering flipping Price and cash to the Dodgers for prospects and using those to boost a Sale trade.

 

The Dodgers have been looking for a top tier pitcher and Price looks like he isn't meant for the AL East. If the Sox throw in 50 mill they can probably get real prospects for Price. Then, they upgrade to Sale.

 

Really? Last I checked his whole career has pretty much been in the ALE with great success...Porcello had a rough start in Boston too. After a couple months you wanna give up on him?

I like the creativity and all, but to say price isnt meant for the ALE is kinda silly if you ask me.

[moonslav59]

Really? Last I checked his whole career has pretty much been in the ALE with great success...Porcello had a rough start in Boston too. After a couple months you wanna give up on him?

I like the creativity and all, but to say price isnt meant for the ALE is kinda silly if you ask me.

 

Although I wouldn't agree, one could argue he "wasn't meant for the bright spotlight in Boston".

[Hugh2]

Porcello has 100% turned it around. Effectively he had one half bad season adjusting to a new team. Over the past 365 days in 29 starts he's gone 18-6 with a 3.37 ERA and a 1.14 WHIP. If he keeps that up, he's going to look like an absolute steal for only 4 years 82 million in his prime years.

 

Porcello is kinda a guy now, he might be a #1 on some teams but he strikes me as more of a #2 #3 on a WS caliber team. Definitely a guy to keep around in my opinion but we need to add to the staff, or hope that Price can turn it around which I think he will. Still, I'm not sure I want the ball in the hands of Price for a game 1.

[moonslav59]

There is still a long way to go on many of our newly acquired players, and I'm one that does not participate in bestowing definitive judgments on GMs and players based on small samples sizes, but it's hard to ignore the cumulative effect of all these moves combined. My idea of a small sample size is probably larger than anyone elses, so I want to make it clear that I am not judging DD or the players on this list. I'm just pointing out the totality of such rotten start to DD's decision making so far- choices that were perhaps overlooked due to the good start the Sox got off to this spring.

 

Signings:

David Price- $217M/7 (with opt out)

4.26 ERA/ 11-11 team record in his starts/1.26 WHIP

 

Chris Young- $13M/2

.277/.338/.508/.846/ just 142 PAs in 48 games due to injury

 

Trades:

Kimbrel- $37M/3 for Margot, Guerra, L Allen & C Asuaje

3.55/ 1.091 WHIP/17 Svs/89% SV% (worst in career)/Injured since July 7th

 

C. Smith- $529K for Wade Miley

Injured after just 3 games (o.oo in 2,2 IP)

 

R Elias- $553K for Wade Miley

15.88 ERA in 5.2 IP

 

Pomeranz- $1.35M for Espinoza

7.53 ERA/ 1.674 WHIP in 3 GS'd/ 14.1 IP/ team record 1-2

 

A Hill- $12M for A Wilkerson & W Rijo

.167/.189/.194/.384 in 36 PAs and 10 games (3-15 vs LHP)

 

B Zeigler- $5.5M for L Basabe & J Almonte

1.23/ 0.818 WHIP/ 7.1 IP/ 50% SV%

 

Many of these players have been injured, so it's not really fair to judge DD and Sox management on that, and like I mentioned earlier, these are all small to tiny sample sizes, but to me, only Chris Young has performed well when playing. Seeing how many here judge Buch for only playing a half season, I guess many here would say even Young has been a bust so far.

 

I'm still optimistic about the players on this list. I wasn't against these trades and signings out of disrespect for these players accomplishments or talents, so I'm not going to pretend I predicted their struggles- far from it, but the high cost of these players- some financial, some in return packages in trade, and some in both- will be felt for years to come, while the immediate gain and shorter-term upgrades have not materialized SO FAR.

 

I still think this team is a legitimate contender as is (assuming Kimbrell, Uehara and Young return in form), but we have to face the fact that our recent moves have not gone too well up to this point in time.

 

I hope when we revisit these moves years from now, there will be a much brighter conclusion.

 

 

 

 

[Nick]

Question has to be internally who tags along with the core group of Betts, Bradley and Xander? Time and time again, it's better to develop players internally than overpaying for a free agent based on past and not future productivity. (Look at what the Yankees are finally doing)

 

Benintendi surely has to be in the mix. At the very least, he should be a September call up.

Moncada situation is little more tricky because of his defensive position. Can he become adequate 3B thereby moving Shaw over to 1B and Hanley to DH? If his best position is in OF, then what to do with Benintendi?

 

My hope is Swihart eventually ends up behind the plate for Red Sox. How will he get that chance? Or do you teach him to play 1B also so that he can play multiple positions?

 

Sox will have more money than available talent in the FA market this winter. Here's to going all out for Encarnacion.

Edited July 31, 2016 by Nick

[bowman]

Have to sign Encarn. A must...

[moonslav59]

I'm not sold on Encarnacion as a "must".

 

We may end up trading for a high priced pitcher, so the return in prospects will not have to be so large.

 

Our luxury tax budget will still be tight, despite its expected increase and the loss of several large contracts.

 

We will need to replace Uehara and Tazawa and find an top quality SP'er. If we can do that without trading away our future and still sign Encarnacion, I'm all in.

[moonslav59]

There is still a long way to go on many of our newly acquired players, and I'm one that does not participate in bestowing definitive judgments on GMs and players based on small samples sizes, but it's hard to ignore the cumulative effect of all these moves combined. My idea of a small sample size is probably larger than anyone elses, so I want to make it clear that I am not judging DD or the players on this list. I'm just pointing out the totality of such rotten start to DD's decision making so far- choices that were perhaps overlooked due to the good start the Sox got off to this spring.

 

Signings:

David Price- $217M/7 (with opt out)

4.26 ERA/ 11-11 team record in his starts/1.26 WHIP

 

Chris Young- $13M/2

.277/.338/.508/.846/ just 142 PAs in 48 games due to injury

 

Trades:

Kimbrel- $37M/3 for Margot, Guerra, L Allen & C Asuaje

3.55/ 1.091 WHIP/17 Svs/89% SV% (worst in career)/Injured since July 7th

 

C. Smith- $529K for Wade Miley

Injured after just 3 games (o.oo in 2,2 IP)

 

R Elias- $553K for Wade Miley

15.88 ERA in 5.2 IP

 

Pomeranz- $1.35M for Espinoza

7.53 ERA/ 1.674 WHIP in 3 GS'd/ 14.1 IP/ team record 1-2

 

A Hill- $12M for A Wilkerson & W Rijo

.167/.189/.194/.384 in 36 PAs and 10 games (3-15 vs LHP)

 

B Zeigler- $5.5M for L Basabe & J Almonte

1.23/ 0.818 WHIP/ 7.1 IP/ 50% SV%

 

Many of these players have been injured, so it's not really fair to judge DD and Sox management on that, and like I mentioned earlier, these are all small to tiny sample sizes, but to me, only Chris Young has performed well when playing. Seeing how many here judge Buch for only playing a half season, I guess many here would say even Young has been a bust so far.

 

I'm still optimistic about the players on this list. I wasn't against these trades and signings out of disrespect for these players accomplishments or talents, so I'm not going to pretend I predicted their struggles- far from it, but the high cost of these players- some financial, some in return packages in trade, and some in both- will be felt for years to come, while the immediate gain and shorter-term upgrades have not materialized SO FAR.

 

I still think this team is a legitimate contender as is (assuming Kimbrell, Uehara and Young return in form), but we have to face the fact that our recent moves have not gone too well up to this point in time.

 

I hope when we revisit these moves years from now, there will be a much brighter conclusion.

 

If you add last seasons mistakes, highlighted by HanRam & Pablo, we're on an awful transaction streak.

[Nick]

I think Ziegler has done well.....in a night game, Betts may have caught the home run ball, and double play was a possibility on a grounder to Hanley.

[Hugh2]

I don't buy signing a 1B/DH as a must either. Assuming that we see no improvements from a more well seasoned and healthy Swihart/Vasquez/Shaw/Holt then the lineup maintains the status quo by adding a big bat. I think if you subtracted David Ortiz right now we still have one of the best lineups in baseball, but with or without Ortiz if you were to add a TOP of the rotation starter then we arguably become the WS favorites next year.

 

Imagine our lineup without Ortiz, but a rotation of Sale/Price/Porcello/Pomeranz/Wright. I also wouldn't rule out Owens or Erod figuring things out.

 

If JBJ was still a .220 hitter, and Bogaerts and Betts were 75% the hitters they are now but Price and EROD were both pitching like TOTRS I'd say the exact opposite. That we can go with our current staff and we should allocate our resources on hitting.

 

If you have to trade prospects to bring in the pitcher (which is pretty much a given at this point) then I can reconcile also signing a guy like Encarnation. Which is fairly realistic if this team seriously wants to make a run at a guy like Sale in the offseason.

[Nick]

Aaron Hill has been a big disappointment....he's not even hitting into bad luck....simply over matched so far at the plate

[bowman]

He's okay on defense, but I can't see much more. Like Craig, wheres the bat gone.

[moonslav59]

I don't buy signing a 1B/DH as a must either. Assuming that we see no improvements from a more well seasoned and healthy Swihart/Vasquez/Shaw/Holt then the lineup maintains the status quo by adding a big bat. I think if you subtracted David Ortiz right now we still have one of the best lineups in baseball, but with or without Ortiz if you were to add a TOP of the rotation starter then we arguably become the WS favorites next year.

 

Imagine our lineup without Ortiz, but a rotation of Sale/Price/Porcello/Pomeranz/Wright. I also wouldn't rule out Owens or Erod figuring things out.

 

If JBJ was still a .220 hitter, and Bogaerts and Betts were 75% the hitters they are now but Price and EROD were both pitching like TOTRS I'd say the exact opposite. That we can go with our current staff and we should allocate our resources on hitting.

 

If you have to trade prospects to bring in the pitcher (which is pretty much a given at this point) then I can reconcile also signing a guy like Encarnation. Which is fairly realistic if this team seriously wants to make a run at a guy like Sale in the offseason.

 

We can't keep throwing money at every conceivable problem area. We suck at it, and most GMs do as well.

 

With Moncada and Beni currently blocked or bottlenecked at the major league level and Pablo coming back for an expensive DFA or challenge to a FT slot, we have a long list of competition for 4 slots next year, not counting the 4 guys looking to get significant catcher action [Vazquez, Swihart, Leon and Hanigan (option)].

 

3B, LF, DH & 1B

 

HanRam 1B/DH

Moncada 3B?/LF?/DH?

Benintendi LF

T Shaw 3B/1B (platoon)

Young LF/DH (platoon)

Swihart LF/ 1B? ©

Sandoval 3B/DH/ 1B?

Holt LF/3B/1B

 

long shots:

Hernandez 3B

Travis 1B

Rutledge 3B

Marrero 3B

Castillo LF

 

One could argue that we are just stacked with mediocrity and speculative talent, and I'm normally onboard with seeking quality over quantity, especially with pitching, but with such a high need with our pitching staff (1 TOR SP'er and 2 RP'ers), I think we may have to roll the dice and hope 4 of the 7 players listed above come through or a long shot surprises us to snag a slot away from the top 7 listed.

 

I like those odds better than relying on in house solutions to our pitching woes.

[Nick]

If Moncada fails, it's a huge mistake by Sox scouting department. You don't pay $60M to get blocked by Holt's of the world. He and Benintendi are blue bloods. Their hand eye coordination isn't going to go away suddenly.

[cp176]

Encarnarcion is a no brainer sign. $$$ - sign him unless there is somebody out there just like him. TORP via trade and let the left field situation play out with Swihart and probably Benintendi.

[moonslav59]

If Moncada fails, it's a huge mistake by Sox scouting department. You don't pay $60M to get blocked by Holt's of the world. He and Benintendi are blue bloods. Their hand eye coordination isn't going to go away suddenly.

 

It would be a huge mistake by many scouts and ranking services.

 

Here are the top 5 ranked players from years ago (Baseball America):

 

1990- S Avery, B McDonald, J Olerud, Juan Gonzalez, S Alomar (15 Ventura)

1991- T Van Poppel, A Cedeno, R Klesko, Offerman, Salkeld (10 M vaughn/15 W Banks)

1992- B Taylor, Van Poppel, R Salkeld, Chipper Jones, A Rhodes (15 D Bell)

1993- C Jones, B Taylor, C Floyd, Delgado, T Salmon, 15 Ro. White

1994- C Floyd, C Jones, J Hammonds, AGon, Delgado 15 R Klesko

1995- ARod, R Rivera, C Jones, Jeter, B Hunter, 15 A Osuna

1996- A Jones, P Wilson, R Rivera, D Erstad, A Benes, 15 B Colon

1997- A Jones, V Guerrero, K Wood, m White, T Lee, 15 De. Lee

1998- B Grieve, Konerko, A Beltre, K Wood, Aramis Ramireez, 15 J Encarnacion

1999- JD Drew, R Ankiel, E Chavez, B Chen, B Penny, 15 J Patterson

2000- R Ankiel, P Burrell, C Patterson, V Wells, N Johnson, 15 M Riley

2001- Josh Hamilton, Patterson, J Beckett, J Rauch, B Sheets, 15 C-H Tsao

2002- J Beckett, M Prior, H Blaylock, Burroughs, C Pena, 15 A Berroa

2003- Teixeira, Baldelli, J Reyes, Mauer, J Foppert, 15 J Stokes

2004- J Mauer, M Upton, D Young, E Jackson, R Weeks, 15 Kotchman

2005- J mauer, Felix H, D Young, I Stewart, J Guzman, 15 P Fielder

2006- D Young, J Upton, B Wood, J Hermida, S Drew, 15 R Zimmerman

2007- Dice-K, A Gordon, D Young, P Hughes, H Bailey, 15 Tulowitzski

2008- J Bruce, Longoria, Chamberlain, Buccholz, Rasmus, 15 J McGee)

2009- Wieters, D Price, C Rasmus, T Hanson, Heyward, 15 D Fowler

2010- Heyward, Strasburg, G Stanton, Montero, Matusz, 15 Dom. Brown

2011- Harper, Trout, J Montero, Brown, Teheran, 15 M Moore

2012- Harper, M Moore, Trout, Darvish, Teheran, 15 J TaILLON

2013- J Profar, D Bundy, O Taveras, W Myers, Jose fernandez, 15 Yelich

2014- B Buxton, X Bogaerts, O Taveras, Tanaka, Baez, 15 D Bundy

2015- K Bryant, B Buxton, A Russell, C Correa, J Gallo, 15 C Roden

2016 C Seager, B Buxton, Y Moncada, Urias, Giolito 15 Benintendi

 

 

 

 

 

[moonslav59]

How about Mike Napoli hitting his 23rd HR and getting his 70th RBI today?

 

He's on pace for career highs in HRs and RBIs with an .815 OPS.

 

(Note: He's on pace for his most Ks too, but as I've said, KS are over-rated.)

[Nick]

Napoli didn't hit when we needed him.......can't keep looking back. He'd suck again in Boston.

[mvp 78]

Napoli didn't hit when we needed him.......can't keep looking back. He'd suck again in Boston.

 

He carried the team in April 2013 while Papi was out.