Red Sox Nation memberships 2016

[Redsoxgirl51282]

I spoke to a RSN governor who told me all memberships this year will be digital and they will be the same as last year only one option. They are putting aside RSN for kids nation instead because they want more kids to go to red sox games. Memberships should be available for purchase this week.

[Gringo]

No disrespect to the OP, but the whole notion of this artificial "Red Sox Nation" is ridiculous and it's kind of sleazy that the brass tries to commodify the emotional attachment Red Sox fans have for their club. Shouldn't being a Red Sox fan be enough? Or does an "exclusive group" have to be created?

 

Red Sox fans have been played for total dopes for years by this ownership group. You should see how quickly they buckle to fan demands at Liverpool. The owners look at us and laugh, knowing very well how we'll just eat whatever they spoon out to us.

[User Name]

Those three championships sure make me feel like a dope!

[Gringo]

Ticket prices are an outrage, concessions alone will cost a family of 4 about $75, maybe more. The way they shut off Yawkey Way is kind of an affront to people of Boston or the area who might want to go down and soak up the pre game atmosphere without necessarily buying tickets and going to the game itself. It's a city street, it does not belong to them.

 

I also dislike the "America's Most Beloved Ballpark" banner they drape outside the park. A Cubs fan doesn't think that's accurate, and I'm sure a Yankees fan doesn't too. It's arrogance and not very classy. Fenway Park speaks for itself, it doesn't need to be "marketed".

 

/rant over

[User Name]

I just want them to put a good product on the field. Their marketing ploys couldn't mean less to me.

[Kimmi]

No disrespect to the OP, but the whole notion of this artificial "Red Sox Nation" is ridiculous and it's kind of sleazy that the brass tries to commodify the emotional attachment Red Sox fans have for their club. Shouldn't being a Red Sox fan be enough? Or does an "exclusive group" have to be created?

 

Red Sox fans have been played for total dopes for years by this ownership group. You should see how quickly they buckle to fan demands at Liverpool. The owners look at us and laugh, knowing very well how we'll just eat whatever they spoon out to us.

 

No one is forcing you to be a member of Red Sox Nation.

 

If someone else wants to be a member, that's his/her decision.

[Gringo]

No one is forcing you to be a member of Red Sox Nation.

 

If someone else wants to be a member, that's his/her decision.

 

I agree, but my cynical nature views the whole concept as one big unnecessary marketing scheme.

[SoxHop]

No disrespect to the OP, but the whole notion of this artificial "Red Sox Nation" is ridiculous and it's kind of sleazy that the brass tries to commodify the emotional attachment Red Sox fans have for their club. Shouldn't being a Red Sox fan be enough? Or does an "exclusive group" have to be created?

 

Red Sox fans have been played for total dopes for years by this ownership group. You should see how quickly they buckle to fan demands at Liverpool. The owners look at us and laugh, knowing very well how we'll just eat whatever they spoon out to us.

 

Hey Mr. Scrooge, It would probably have been best to just keep quiet and let others enjoy themselves.

[Northern Star]

I just want them to put a good product on the field. Their marketing ploys couldn't mean less to me.

 

Cos you don't go to the games.

 

I looked at the prices. Then I laughed. Then I clicked X.

[Northern Star]

hey mr. Scrooge, it would probably have been best to just keep quiet and let others enjoy themselves.

 

fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!

[User Name]

Cos you don't go to the games.

 

I looked at the prices. Then I laughed. Then I clicked X.

 

So f***ing what? If I lived there and I had the money, I'd go. I don't, so I watch on TV, and I buy merchandise when I can. Am I less of a fan because I live thousands of miles away?

[Youk Of The Nation]

Ticket prices are an outrage, concessions alone will cost a family of 4 about $75, maybe more. The way they shut off Yawkey Way is kind of an affront to people of Boston or the area who might want to go down and soak up the pre game atmosphere without necessarily buying tickets and going to the game itself. It's a city street, it does not belong to them.

 

I also dislike the "America's Most Beloved Ballpark" banner they drape outside the park. A Cubs fan doesn't think that's accurate, and I'm sure a Yankees fan doesn't too. It's arrogance and not very classy. Fenway Park speaks for itself, it doesn't need to be "marketed".

 

/rant over

 

"Best Fans in Baseball" - The St. Louis Cardinals

"Greatest Show on Earth" - The institutionalized animal-cruelty machine of Barnum and Bailey

 

I could probably pull out a thousand other cliches that sports teams all over the world use to describe themselves, their fans, or their venues. Why is Fenway calling itself "America's most beloved ballpark" so offensive? It's just a cliched, catchy motto. It's not like they're demanding it be codified as a law by Congress. It's all in celebration of a passionate fanbase and an historic stadium. I think you're taking it way too seriously.

 

As for concession prices, that's a given no matter what sport or stadium you are talking about. A baseball team needs to pay salaries. Not only the obscene amounts of money that players receive, but the salaries of the coaches, front office staff, groundskeepers, concession stand workers, security, and custodial and maintenance workers. They have to pay for the food they supply for concessions, the alcohol, the cleaning supplies. The team plane and buses probably cost more to maintain than an average suburban house between fuel and repairs. The amount of personnel, supplies, and services that a major league sports franchise pays for rivals that of a small midwestern town. With all that in mind, I'm not inclined to complain that my food costs a little more than it does at a restaurant.

 

You seem to be taking all of this as a personal affront. The Red Sox are not conducting a massive disinformation campaign against their fanbase, hell-bent on tricking us all into loving the Red Sox. We already love the Red Sox. They are simply taking advantage of our love for the Sox and turning it into an opportunity to make more money. Money that they will use to pay players who can win games, and make repairs and upgrades to the stadium and surrounding areas to make the experience of a game more comfortable and entertaining for their fans. That is what a good business does.

 

When the Royals or Rays increase ticket prices after they start playing well, it's not because they are milking cash from people they don't care about, they are doing it because success brings in more fans and they need to upgrade the available fan services. This is the same principle on a larger scale.

[User Name]

"Best Fans in Baseball" - The St. Louis Cardinals

"Greatest Show on Earth" - The institutionalized animal-cruelty machine of Barnum and Bailey

 

I could probably pull out a thousand other cliches that sports teams all over the world use to describe themselves, their fans, or their venues. Why is Fenway calling itself "America's most beloved ballpark" so offensive? It's just a cliched, catchy motto. It's not like they're demanding it be codified as a law by Congress. It's all in celebration of a passionate fanbase and an historic stadium. I think you're taking it way too seriously.

 

As for concession prices, that's a given no matter what sport or stadium you are talking about. A baseball team needs to pay salaries. Not only the obscene amounts of money that players receive, but the salaries of the coaches, front office staff, groundskeepers, concession stand workers, security, and custodial and maintenance workers. They have to pay for the food they supply for concessions, the alcohol, the cleaning supplies. The team plane and buses probably cost more to maintain than an average suburban house between fuel and repairs. The amount of personnel, supplies, and services that a major league sports franchise pays for rivals that of a small midwestern town. With all that in mind, I'm not inclined to complain that my food costs a little more than it does at a restaurant.

 

You seem to be taking all of this as a personal affront. The Red Sox are not conducting a massive disinformation campaign against their fanbase, hell-bent on tricking us all into loving the Red Sox. We already love the Red Sox. They are simply taking advantage of our love for the Sox and turning it into an opportunity to make more money. Money that they will use to pay players who can win games, and make repairs and upgrades to the stadium and surrounding areas to make the experience of a game more comfortable and entertaining for their fans. That is what a good business does.

 

When the Royals or Rays increase ticket prices after they start playing well, it's not because they are milking cash from people they don't care about, they are doing it because success brings in more fans and they need to upgrade the available fan services. This is the same principle on a larger scale.

 

I'll dirnk (and enjoy) a Dr. Pepper to this post. Cheers!

[SoxnCycles]

I'm trying to figure out when making money became such an assault on the masses.

 

I'd be worried about the Sox if they were not trying to make money.

[Bellhorn04]

The Sox are a business and perfectly entitled to make money, that's for sure.

 

If going to a game at Fenway is too expensive for a middle-class family that's kind of sad.

 

Players salaries have spiraled into never-never land and its the fans who have to foot the bill somehow.

[Bellhorn04]

Pro sports has reached the point where for the average citizen the ticket and concession prices are another form of 'idiot tax' like legal gambling. If you're stupid enough to throw away that much money it's on you. If you're rich, of course, it's no big deal.

[Dojji]

bellhorn you're putting the cart before the horse.

 

Fenway ticket and concession prices aren't charged based on meeting expenses. Expenses are set based on the money that the Red Sox have. No business survives very long basing its prices on expenses. Inevitably expenses will spike beyond what the market will bear if you do that. companies set their espenses based on the revenue and charge exactly what the market will bear and no less.

 

If our payroll were 1/3 what it is right now and the team was somehow an exciting on field product and was winning enough to draw fans, the ticket prices and concessions would be right where they are right now, and ownership would pocket the difference. And next year, the team may look to add payroll to improve the product if possible.

 

If demand went down due to a long string of terrible years, attendance flatlined and interest in the team waned, the prices and concessions would drop to try to fill the park even if payroll was 10 times what it is right now, and the owner would eat the difference. And next year the team would frantically shed payroll in an effort to break even

 

That's the way this game is played, that's the way any business runs itself if it wants to survive. Questions about payroll are based on revenue -- questions of revenue are not based on payroll.

Edited March 29, 2016 by Dojji

[Kimmi]

"Best Fans in Baseball" - The St. Louis Cardinals

"Greatest Show on Earth" - The institutionalized animal-cruelty machine of Barnum and Bailey

 

Good post YOTN.

[Kimmi]

I'm trying to figure out when making money became such an assault on the masses.

 

I'd be worried about the Sox if they were not trying to make money.

 

Or I'd be worried if the Sox were not spending much on payroll.

[a700hitter]

Madison Square Garden -- The World's Most Famous Arena. Also, self-named just like America's Most Beloved Ballpark.

[mvp 78]

The Sox are a business and perfectly entitled to make money, that's for sure.

 

If going to a game at Fenway is too expensive for a middle-class family that's kind of sad.

 

Players salaries have spiraled into never-never land and its the fans who have to foot the bill somehow.

 

That's what the PawSox are for.

[mvp 78]

I'm trying to figure out when making money became such an assault on the masses.

 

I'd be worried about the Sox if they were not trying to make money.

 

C'mon, it was much better back in the early 90's when you could walk up on game day and buy a seat. Have you ever seen the replay of Nomar's 4 HR game, or Roger's 20K game? Fenway was half full! THOSE WERE TRUE FANS! NOT LIKE THE NAMBY PAMBY PINK HATTED SWEET CAROLINE SINGING WALLY WAVING PHONEYS OF TODAY!!!

[Bellhorn04]

bellhorn you're putting the cart before the horse.

 

Fenway ticket and concession prices aren't charged based on meeting expenses. Expenses are set based on the money that the Red Sox have. No business survives very long basing its prices on expenses. Inevitably expenses will spike beyond what the market will bear if you do that. companies set their espenses based on the revenue and charge exactly what the market will bear and no less.

 

I think the relationship between the increases is more of a back and forth than you're suggesting. Many businesses bump their prices because they see their expenses going up and they hope the customers won't revolt.

 

The real question, though, is how baseball revenue and expenses can continue to increase at a rate far in excess of the growth of the economy in general. It suggests an irrational market. And that's what it has become for the average citizen - a very irrational economic decision to take your family to a game.

[sk7326]

Pro sports has reached the point where for the average citizen the ticket and concession prices are another form of 'idiot tax' like legal gambling. If you're stupid enough to throw away that much money it's on you. If you're rich, of course, it's no big deal.

 

TV rights are holding the whole ship afloat

[a700hitter]

TV rights are holding the whole ship afloat

Then sell the tickets for a reasonable price.

[User Name]

The gates represent a very significant percentage of team revenues.

[cp176]

I'm simple and I think that this is simple - Supply and Demand

[Bellhorn04]

I'm simple and I think that this is simple - Supply and Demand

 

Oh, that part is simple. But the question is how do baseball salaries keep going up and up into the stratosphere when the American economy in general has been flat for years.

[mvp 78]

Because people are spending more on going to games each year. The inflated tv contracts are a large part of it too.

[cp176]

Oh, that part is simple. But the question is how do baseball salaries keep going up and up into the stratosphere when the American economy in general has been flat for years.

 

The state of our economy can be an interesting picture to paint. It absolutely depends upon who you choose to listen to. There seems to be absolutely no correlation between what anyone thinks the shape of our economy is and the salaries being paid to mlb players. Seats are full - roads are full - goods are being purchased like never before. When I travel from here to Boston weekly, I wonder who works anymore. It is about supply and demand as it should be. Game after game after game - those seats aren't all being filled by rich folk. When people can't afford to go, salaries and prices will start coming down. If the economy is as bad as some would have us believe then all of the rich people in New England chose to live in Boston based on the prices you pay for anything once you cross the city limits.