David Price

[User Name]

They are all a bunch of overpaid pukes in suits playing an adult version of strat-o-matic. I have little regard for any of them. They recycle the same guys throughout the ol'boys network when few of them are qualified to manage a grocery store. I'll debate the moves they make, but I couldn't give a s*** about about any of them.

 

The "ol' boys network" point is a good one though. Lots of overqualified guys sitting pretty behind some guys who really couldn't run a 7-11. Want proof? Jack Zdurienick is living proof.

 

However, that simply wasn't the case with Cherington. He's qualified to run a franchise, and could've done a heck of a better job if ownership had just decided on an actual course of action instead of flip-flopping every year. Also, Lucchino. f*** that guy. I'm glad he's gone.

[Spitball]

Geesh! Price and Greinke are making about a million dollars a start. I am not sure this translates into reality.

[a700hitter]

The reality threshold was breached a long time ago.

[User Name]

Geesh! Price and Greinke are making about a million dollars a start. I am not sure this translates into reality.

 

Hey Spitball! Nice having you around! How's it hanging?

[Bellhorn04]

Geesh! Price and Greinke are making about a million dollars a start. I am not sure this translates into reality.

 

The craziest part is that it's all paid for by the fans.

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

The craziest part is that it's all paid for by the fans.

 

More like paid for by Miller Lite.

[mvp 78]

The reality threshold was breached a long time ago.

 

Thanks Yazbumski!

[Bellhorn04]

More like paid for by Miller Lite.

 

And the fans pay for the Miller Lite. The money trail leads to the end users.

[Elktonnick]

Professional sports is the entertainment business. No one complains when movie stars make ridiculous sums to appear in a movie. From a business perspective Price is worth a million dollars a start IF the NESN ratings improve and overall revenue increases by a proportionate amount. No one should worry about John Henry going broke anytime soon. I am sure he decided Price was worth he money or he wouldn't have hired Dumbrowski and allowed him to make such a deal.

[Dojji]

In my mind the real crime is the past contracts that are clearly more exploitative than present, since they can clearly afford boondoggles like this the players of the past are still UNDERpaid.

 

People still have this delusion that if player contracts were cheaper the price of tickets will go down. It's an exercise in putting the cart in front of the horse. They will charge what they think they can get away with charging at all times, price will only go down when demands go down. Good ownership like Henry will try to keep reinvesting to keep demand high, rather than simply letting salary stagnate and pocketing the difference. But a cheaper roster will never mean cheaper seats all by itself.

[Orange Juiced]

In 3-4 years, the market for ace starting pitchers will be between $35-40 million a year. Heck, Greinke just got a contract, at age 32, for six years at more than $34 million a year.

[Kimmi]

When did Jacko become a good poster? How did this happen? What Yankee fan am I going to s*** on now? Nothing makes sense anymore.

 

I don't know how he's been in years past, but since I've been here, Jacko has been a good poster when he wants to be. You just have to remember that he's a Yankees fan and just can't help himself sometimes. It's the nature of the beast.

[Kimmi]

they clearly didn't get the memos that these old farts have seen better days. Just imagine Greinke making that kind of money when he is 37 and 38. Looks like the boys in the desert want to win.

 

They got the memo. Everyone knows how great the risk is in signing aging pitchers to large contracts.

[Kimmi]

In my mind the real crime is the past contracts that are clearly more exploitative than present, since they can clearly afford boondoggles like this the players of the past are still UNDERpaid.

 

People still have this delusion that if player contracts were cheaper the price of tickets will go down. It's an exercise in putting the cart in front of the horse. They will charge what they think they can get away with charging at all times, price will only go down when demands go down. Good ownership like Henry will try to keep reinvesting to keep demand high, rather than simply letting salary stagnate and pocketing the difference. But a cheaper roster will never mean cheaper seats all by itself.

 

I have no delusion that ticket prices will go down. I also have no problem with the Sox having a payroll close to the luxury tax limit every year. In fact, I appreciate that Henry is willing to have a payroll that high, and he should.

 

That said, I do not agree with the idea that Henry should spend whatever the fans think he should spend because Henry can afford it and it's not their money.

[Kimmi]

In 3-4 years, the market for ace starting pitchers will be between $35-40 million a year. Heck, Greinke just got a contract, at age 32, for six years at more than $34 million a year.

 

I posted a few days ago that I didn't think there was any way that Price would opt out of his contract at age 33. After seeing the Greinke contract, I have changed my mind. Apparently, there are some GMs who are willing to give 5-6 year mega contracts, plus give up a draft pick, to pitchers who 32-33 years old.

[Kimmi]

I would like to say that I very much enjoyed reading the articles about how the negotiations with Price went down and the articles about his press conference yesterday.

 

In addition to being one of the best pitchers in the game, everything that I've read about him says that he is top notch when it comes to his leadership, his work ethic, his competitiveness, his baseball smarts, and being a good teammate and clubhouse presence. Those intangibles carry a lot of value along with his pitching ability.

[Orange Juiced]

I posted a few days ago that I didn't think there was any way that Price would opt out of his contract at age 33. After seeing the Greinke contract, I have changed my mind. Apparently, there are some GMs who are willing to give 5-6 year mega contracts, plus give up a draft pick, to pitchers who 32-33 years old.

 

The amount of money teams are spending these days is just beyond comprehension. So yes, if Price performs pretty well the next 3 years, he'll hit the market at 33 years of age, and there's a very good chance by then, someone will offer him 5 years at $35 million per year. And if he thinks he can get that, he'll opt out.

[milanooco]

This guy got the largest contract in the mlb history.

[Spitball]

Hey Spitball! Nice having you around! How's it hanging?

 

Hey, User Name! I'm hanging in there. I need to spend more time on TalkSox concentrating on baseball and less time discussing unimportant things elsewhere.

Edited December 6, 2015 by Spitball

[yankthis]

Just found out about this. Good news.

[vjcsmoke]

Ace pitcher!! Dombrowski got his man! He was eyeing Price from the start of his tenure as Red Sox GM.

I believe if David Price stays at the Ace level for the first 3 years, very good the next 2 years, and even just average the last 2 years, this contract was well worth it.

We'll have at least a 3 year window to compete for pennants and the postseason.

 

And we kept our 1st round pick and our farm intact. And Price is proven in the AL East. It's hard not to like this deal as a Sox fan! I'm excited!!

[Behindenemylines]

Ace pitcher!! Dombrowski got his man! He was eyeing Price from the start of his tenure as Red Sox GM.

I believe if David Price stays at the Ace level for the first 3 years, very good the next 2 years, and even just average the last 2 years, this contract was well worth it.

We'll have at least a 3 year window to compete for pennants and the postseason.

 

And we kept our 1st round pick and our farm intact. And Price is proven in the AL East. It's hard not to like this deal as a Sox fan! I'm excited!!

 

I think the Sox will get three solid years from Price and then let him walk with the likes of Rodriguez, Anderson, and Kopech ready to take over the top of the staff duties.

[Kimmi]

I think the Sox will get three solid years from Price and then let him walk with the likes of Rodriguez, Anderson, and Kopech ready to take over the top of the staff duties.

 

IMO, the best thing possible for the Sox is for Price to opt out after 3 years. That said, since Price will have to be replaced, and the cost for starting pitching will be even more expensive then (otherwise Price will not opt out). So, in order for the opt out to work in the Sox favor:

 

1. The Sox must not re-sign Price at that time, no matter how well he has pitched.

2. The Sox must be prepared to have Price's replacement in place, either with one of the guys from the farm, or by otherwise acquiring a frontline starter. This means either having the farm pieces to trade for one or having enough money freed up to hand out another absurd contract.