Bailey - Stay or Go?

[SoxFanForsyth]

I looked at Uehara's stats when I looked back at your post. I knew that he had been a successful bullpen guy, but I mistakenly thought he had trouble in the closer's role. He had one season where he had 13 saves and he did pretty well. He's probably our best bet interanlly, but the biggest question mark he would carry is the ability to pitch back to back days and carry a heavy load.

 

Yup. Durability is certainly the biggest question mark with him. If you go with him as your permanent closer, you need a 1b guy, like Miller, who can close when Uehara can't go consecutive days.

[Bellhorn04]

Yup. Durability is certainly the biggest question mark with him. If you go with him as your permanent closer, you need a 1b guy, like Miller, who can close when Uehara can't go consecutive days.

 

Or Tazawa as relief ace/backup closer.

[Standing Room]

Love looking up a ton of stats to show someone a different view of something/prove them wrong, and then just bring ignored.

 

Yeah I'm talkin to you Ted! :harhar:

 

Doesn't fit the narrative.

[mvp 78]

Found someone who might be cruising down the Mariano Rivera Hwy.

 

http://www.providencejournal.com/topics/photos/sports/red-sox/20120921-red-sox-2-orioles-4.ece?ssimg=722608#ssTop722616

 

Wouldn't have to give up much to get him either.

[VA Sox Fan]

Found someone who might be cruising down the Mariano Rivera Hwy.

 

http://www.providencejournal.com/topics/photos/sports/red-sox/20120921-red-sox-2-orioles-4.ece?ssimg=722608#ssTop722616

 

Wouldn't have to give up much to get him either.

 

:lol:

[mvp 78]

Well, there's always this option:

 

@PeteAbe: #RedSox activate RHP Clayton Mortensen. RHP Pedro Beato optioned to Pawtucket.

[Behindenemylines]

It got to the point that Bailey was afraid to throw strikes. Closers that walk a lot of people are not going to be successful. If Bailey isn't hurt then he may not be able to close in the bright lights of Boston. If that is the case then he will probably have to be moved. Now if he is hurt (or hasn't got his zip on the fastball back) then maybe you hang on to him in the hope that he figures it out. The Sox aren't going anywhere if their bullpen fails them.

[Rick Ross]

Well, there's always this option:

 

@PeteAbe: #RedSox activate RHP Clayton Mortensen. RHP Pedro Beato optioned to Pawtucket.

 

Mortensen really scares me. He always gives up a ton of fly balls but they never seem to go out of the yard. Sooner or later, he's going to Melancon it up in a few-inning span against a hard-hitting team like the Blue Jays and his ERA is going to balloon.

[seabeachfred]

Mortensen really scares me. He always gives up a ton of fly balls but they never seem to go out of the yard. Sooner or later, he's going to Melancon it up in a few-inning span against a hard-hitting team like the Blue Jays and his ERA is going to balloon.

 

You have to pick your spots with Mortensen because he stinks to high heaven. Always, it seems, he gets in trouble and rarely, if ever, has a clean inning. Putting into a game where we have a one or two run lead is tantamount to suicide. To me the only reason he is still on the team is because he has no options left, once again money and time taking precedence over common sense. In a word he SUCKS!!!!!!!

[Behindenemylines]

Mortensen is the Sox middle inning eater and its a crap shot with him.

[Bellhorn04]

Mortensen is the Sox middle inning eater and its a crap shot with him.

 

Hopefully he can bounce back a bit. I'd say he's hovering on the edge of Toastville.

[RedSoxNC84]

Strange thing i read about mortensen recently, he apparently is lights out on the road, and he is terrible at fenway park.. He has something like a 1.87 ERA at home and a 5-6 ERA at fenway.. it's odd

[YAZMAN]

Found someone who might be cruising down the Mariano Rivera Hwy.

 

http://www.providencejournal.com/topics/photos/sports/red-sox/20120921-red-sox-2-orioles-4.ece?ssimg=722608#ssTop722616

 

Wouldn't have to give up much to get him either.

 

Not a bad move, he has some nasty bite on his pitches....

[seabeachfred]

It got to the point that Bailey was afraid to throw strikes. Closers that walk a lot of people are not going to be successful. If Bailey isn't hurt then he may not be able to close in the bright lights of Boston. If that is the case then he will probably have to be moved. Now if he is hurt (or hasn't got his zip on the fastball back) then maybe you hang on to him in the hope that he figures it out. The Sox aren't going anywhere if their bullpen fails them.

 

That's the question B-Lines. Is Bailey hurt? Is Bailey flummoxed pitching in Boston? That none of us seem to know. While most of us have had a fixation in blasting his ineffectiveness it is also a fact that if he could recover and become effective it would do wonders for our bullpen, no matter what his role is, closer, set-up man, or 7th inning troubleshooter. You said it best....the Sox aren't going far without a solid pen. Maybe Cherington is thinking the same thing and might opt for bullpen help when the trading deadline approaches. I'll tell you this: If we got get back Buchholz and see him still pitching as he did before his mishaps, see Jon Lester repeat his performance last night in subsequent starts and get Webster off to a solid start, it would enable the GM not to have to worry on two fronts, concentrating on upgrading the bullpen.

[RedSoxNC84]

RDLR has gone 20 scoreless now, just sayin.

[User Name]

Jesus Christ, Iglesisas is a hit machine

[Spitball]

Jesus Christ, Iglesisas is a hit machine

 

I am really beginning to wonder. I believe his BABIP indicates some luck, but then he is a damn lucky sob. He is 2 for 4 tonight. If he can approach this luck, he should be the Red Sox version of Ozzie Smith for years to come.

[User Name]

Dunno how that post ended up here lol.

 

On topic: f*** Papelbon, we got Koji.

 

#highfivecity

[Bellhorn04]

As for Bailey, he still hasn't had a 1-2-3 inning since April 24. They keep giving him chances and he keeps blowing them. He can't have many more left.

[mvp 78]

Dunno how that post ended up here lol.

 

On topic: f*** Papelbon, we got Koji.

 

#highfivecity

 

Easier to trade for a set up guy or 2nd tier closer than blow some prospects on an overpaid closer like Paps. But most of us have been saying this for a long time now.

[Palodios]

There are a pile of other solid relievers out there, and none of them will cost 45 million + Webster. Just a few names I've seen-- sure they're in the next tier, but another solid reliever at a fraction of the cost would definitely help.

 

Scott Downs

Francisco Rodriguez

Matt Lindstrom

Steve Cishek

[seabeachfred]

There are a pile of other solid relievers out there, and none of them will cost 45 million + Webster. Just a few names I've seen-- sure they're in the next tier, but another solid reliever at a fraction of the cost would definitely help.

 

Scott Downs

Francisco Rodriguez

Matt Lindstrom

Steve Cishek

 

In my opinion Pal we need to consider making a move very very soon. The AL East is very tight and we aren't a shoo in as a WC should we finish second. I know AL East Titles and the Red Sox is like an oxymoron but we really can't take any chances in missing the playoffs again. There is a lot of parity in the league and we have seen strong teams like the Tigers stumble in key series already, the Angels are still struggling somewhat, the Yankees are blowing hot and cold at the present time while the Orioles look damn dangerous to me, and they just traded for Scott Feldman. If Cherington thinks we have a chance at anything this season I think he needs to move quickly on this.

[User Name]

The Angels aren't "struggling somewhat" Fred. Right now, they're a non-factor. It's July, and they're still under .500.

[seabeachfred]

The Angels aren't "struggling somewhat" Fred. Right now, they're a non-factor. It's July, and they're still under .500.

 

Well USER I was trying not to wake the dead or stir up ghosts. The Angels just swept the Tigers and Astros in quick succession, and, what's more, we have to play them three times this weekend. I'm skitty enough about these things that I don't want to hex ourselves before we play them in Anaheim. As for the non-factor, at present you are right as they are nine behind both the Rangers and A's and would have to climb over both of them to win the division. Still that lineup worries me; they could at any time explode in a fury and bury people----and hopefully not at us over the weekend.

[RedSoxNC84]

Interesting thing about Koji... Every appearance that he has a save in, he struck out two batters. In the two blown saves he has only struck out one. In each of those blown save appearances, he allowed 2 hits, and both times one of those hits was a solo shot.

[VA Sox Fan]

Andrew Bailey placed on disabled list

 

Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff July 19, 2013 03:31 PM

 

 

More on this to come, but the Red Sox have placed righthander Andrew Bailey on the 15-day disabled list with a right shoulder injury.

 

This is Bailey's second stint on the DL this season and the sixth of his career since 2010.

 

RHP Jose De La Torre was called up.

[Bellhorn04]

Holy s***, this guy takes injury-prone to a new level.

[VA Sox Fan]

Andrew Bailey likely out for the season

 

Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff July 19, 2013 03:31 PM

 

 

The Red Sox have placed righthanded reliever Andrew Bailey on the 15-day disabled list with a shoulder injury and he is expected to miss the remainder of the season.

 

Bailey was injured throwing a pitch in the eighth inning while facing Jed Lowrie in Oakland on Friday. He struck out Lowrie along with the next batter, Yoenis Cespedes.

 

An exam on Monday revealed that Bailey had a labrum year and capsule damage.

 

"It's fairly significant," manager John Farrell said.

 

Bailey got a second opinion in New York on Wednesday with Mets team doctor David Altchek, who confirmed the diagnosis. A third opinion with Yankees team doctor Chris Ahmad resulted in the same news.

 

"Both exams concur that there's some damage and I think Andrew's at the point now of weighing all the information that he's receiving to take the next step," Farrell said.

 

Said Bailey: "I've been told the only way to fix this is to have surgery."

 

That surgery would keep Bailey out for at least a year.

 

This is Bailey's second stint on the DL this season and the sixth of his career since 2010. Bailey has pitched only 49 games over two seasons with the Red Sox since being obtained from Oakland before the 2012 season.

 

Bailey had 3.77 earned run average in 30 appearances this season. RHP Jose De La Torre was called up.

 

General manager Ben Cherington said the team will see what it has in players like De La Torre and Drake Britton for now.

 

"We have a number of guys we believe in and this creates opportunity and maybe their time comes a little sooner than we thought," he said.

 

But Cherington admitted he will be looking at trades between now and the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline to help his depleted bullpen.

 

"At the same time we’ll continue to work the phones. Those things are hard to predict," he said.

 

Only 13 days ago, the Red Sox lost lefthanded set-up man Andrew Miller to a torn ligament in his left foot. He also is out for the season. The Red Sox obtained lefty Matt Thornton from the White Sox last Friday.

[jacksonianmarch]

He's looking at potentially career altering surgery. There is absolutely no chance he ends up in Boston next yr. This will close the chapter on Bailey's stay in Boston

[jung]

Yea Bailey is done in Boston. I said weeks ago that he was either headed for surgery or out of baseball. Actually I might modify that. He is likely headed for surgery AND out of baseball.